For Minato and tobirama stuff, I do not understand why all of this debate for them even though the manga
made it clear that base Minato > Tobirama!
Both of these ninja are relying heavily on their teleporting jutsus, FTG. However, Minato is greater than Tobirama with the teleporting jutsus as Tobirama admitted in two places, [
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]. However, some people ma argue 2 things. The first is that FTG cannot be slower since it's a teleporting jutsu. However, that was proven wrong by Tobirama himself [
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Not only that, but Tobirama even praised Minato for being fast at striking as well [
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]. Based on that Minato is as proved by Tobirama himself is indeed better, especially that Minato was praised to be the fastest ever, while Tobirama was praised to be the the fastest during his area. Thus, Minato's teleporting jutsus that he shared with Tobirama give him the edge because oh his mastery over them like FTG, and Goshun Mawashi. I may argue that Minato's slashes with the Kunais are also better than that of Tobirama, since when Minato attacks there is no window to dodge as with tobirama, examples of that are [
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As for defenses cases, Minato's greatest defensive moves is his S/T barrier which can deal with moves as strong and the TBB [
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That's in term of their teleportation jutsus (other than the Water Wall) which they rely on heavily. Both of them are sensor type ninje, they can sense the chakra by their fingers or not. Both have clones, and can use the 4 suns barrier, so they are more or less even in this regard. However, those feats a long side the previous ones are more than half of Tobirama's arsenal.
As for offensive moves, Tobirama also has his Water Severing Wave which was able to cut throw some of the Tree's branches. However, we saw a lot of things can cut throw them, and that's include some stuff like a normal swords like that of the Samurais, so it does not really prove how powerful this jutsu is. Minato on the other hand has his Rasengan that was able to damage obito's heavily despite he has Hashirama's cells, but he lost his arm and the earth service underneath him was completely destroyed. So, by feats, the Rasengan has a greater offensive power than Tobirama's jutsu.
Another jutsu that Tobirama has is his Water Dragon [
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One of Tobirama's most powerful jutses is Edo Tensei. However, he does not really have feats with it, and we have no idea what kind of people that he can summon. However, we know that by Kabuto's statement even Oro's part 1 ET was greater than that of Tobirama's, so I would assume that Tobirama's ET was not meant for the power of the summoned people, but rather for his strongest offensive move which is Mutually Multiplying Explosive Tags.
Now, Minato also has a summoning jutsu, but instead of summoning the dead, he summons the frogs. Unlike the Tobirama's case we actually know the frogs and we know their jutsus.
As Tobirama's feats and jutsus stop as far as this. Minato has shown a great mastery over the sealing jutsus that he can do some even with on hand.
Minato also has
Chakra Transfer Technique
Contract Seal
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Four Symbols Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
besides his unrevealed jutsu the Spiralling Flash Super Round Dance Howl Participate Formula. That's without going to the other things like their hype and battles ...etc
that's why base Minato >> Tobirama.
that's in short I guess. U_U
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