Minato and Itachi vs Kurama

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If Minato was able to hold his own against it, adding a healthy Itachi would mean they could take the Kyuubi, with high diff.
 

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If Minato was able to hold his own against it, adding a healthy Itachi would mean they could take the Kyuubi, with high diff.
There is no such thing as a "Healthy" Itachi ... We can only go by what we see in the manga... "Healthy" itachi is a made up character you and the other Itachi fan boy use in a situation when you know Itachi is outclassed or can't win.

Even if Healthy itachi was real ... It wouldn't make much of a difference apart from maybe boosting his chakara from 2.5 to maybe 3.5?
 

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There is no such thing as a "Healthy" Itachi ... We can only go by what we see in the manga... "Healthy" itachi is a made up character you and the other Itachi fan boy use in a situation when you know Itachi is outclassed or can't win.

Even if Healthy itachi was real ... It wouldn't make much of a difference apart from maybe boosting his chakara from 2.5 to maybe 3.5?
i think he means part 1 itachi when he wasnt dying
its kinda just logic, and you cant just go randomly calling people fanboys
ot: i think it depends on location
 

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healthy itachi is itachi before he got his sickness./ end of that

don't use the word fanboy when your claims are not backed up anyway. the fact is that the kyubii is a big target for the totsuka sword.
When exactly did he get sick? We don't know when itachi was ill and wasn't ill the fact is he could of been sick at aged 5 ... You can't just say he's not sick any more to suit the situation.

We have only really seen "Sick" itachi therefore we can only go by the itachi we have seen in the Anime/Manga.
 

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Hmmm, Itachi could just control it with MS.
But if we're actually talking about beating it with no "cheats" IMO is harder than most posts above say. Kurama has far more stamina than both of them combined, more raw power, etc.
Question here is, can totsuga sword completely seal Kurama?? Can he hit him and kill him with amaterasu?? If all this are effective than yes, it won't be that hard for Itachi to solo it.
 

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ok then Part 1 itachi lets work out his stamina compared to part two itachi

For Itachi to master the Sharingan at age eight, and the fireball jutsu at an even younger age, his stamina could not have been naturally low, as Kakashi stated that the fireball jutsu is well above average 12 year old stamina. The question has always been: how high was Itachi's stamina before he entered the terminal stages of his disease? I am attempting to answer this question with given data and deductive reasoning.
One Day
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Ninja with normal bodies are limited to a certain amount of techniques per day. Sasuke could only use two Chidoris per day, Wave Arc Kakashi could only use four Raikiris per day, and so on. This is an important axiom.

Tsukuyomi

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He was almost certainly referring to his opener: Tsukuyomi. Therefore, since 30% Itachi had 1/3 Itachi's chakra, I will say that Tsukuyomi requires roughly that. Cramming three days of torture in to a moment takes a toll.

21 Day

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  • Karasu Bunshin
  • Karasu Bunshin
  • Genjutsu
  • Fūinjutsu Crow
  • Sharingan
  • Layered genjutsu
  • Karasu Bunshin
  • Tsukuyomi
  • Fire Ball jutsu
  • Fire Ball jutsu
  • Amaterasu
  • Amaterasu
  • Susano'o
  • Fūinjutsu Amaterasu

Given this data, and that Tsukuyomi is likely the technique that requires 1/3 of his chakra, I will assume that one Amaterasu costs roughly 1/5 of his chakra, leaving the rest for Susano'o and his non-Mangekyō techniques.


17 Day

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  • Heaven and Earth Genjutsu
  • Multiple Suigaiden
  • Exploding Kage Bunshin
  • Suiton Wall
  • Tsukuyomi
  • Controlling genjutsu
  • Tsukuyomi
  • Amaterasu
+ 2/5clone
+ 2/3tsukuyomi
+1/5amaterasu
+1/15other
=4/3


If the Kage Bunshin exploding is in accordance with Kakashi's raiton bunshin, then it requires about 2/5 stamina due to some return on your split energy. Let's say the non-Mangekyō techniques are 1/15, putting healthy Itachi at 4/3.


Kisame

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+ 2/5clone
+ 2/3tsukuyomi
+1/5amaterasu
+1/15other
+1/2kisame
=11/6

Itachi's 5-year combat partner believed Itachi didn't need to retreat so early. Kisame also considered Jiraiya to be a beast, so he should have believed that Itachi had around half of his energy left to win. This would put Itachi at 11/6.

Inflation

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2x(1)=11/6
x=+11/12

Kakashi's databook stamina stayed constant, but his abled output of Raikiris doubled. Because we're working backwards based off of an inflated weakened Itachi, this wasn't accounted for. X is the inflation that would occur.


Databooks

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Speaking of: why does Gaara have a 4 when having sand cling to his body tires him after a few minutes, but Itachi has a 2.5 when he shits a chakra god out after a major Kage-level battle? I call shenanigans.

Conclusion

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+ 2/5clone
+ 2/3tsukuyomi
+1/5amaterasu
+1/15other
+1/2kisame
=11/6
2x(1)=11/6
x=11/12
11/6+11/12=11/4

A healthy part two Itachi would like have 11/4 his shown stamina if my estimation is valid. I listed all of the calculations above, so if you want to plug in different values for yourself, ignore inflation, etc... then feel free to.
You went in to a lot of unnecessary detail tbh haha!

Anyway .. .We don't know when itachi start to get "ill" And if the illness made a huge difference... The first time we really seen itachi he was really felling the effect of the "tsukuyomi" that he cast on Kakashi! If he wasn't "ill" at this time then his stamina was still low, or it could of just been the eyes ....

Anyway ... My point still stands, We don't know when itachi got "Ill" and what the effect were... You can't just say itachi when he's not "Ill" because in the manga he is ill, so you can't just take away his illness to suit the situation .. Since we don't know that the effects of his illness is :D

Btw i'm getting off now so no need to reply back ... I respect the work you put in to that last post though ..
 
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