Minato and Death Reaper jutsu?? See is you can answer this.

[Johndoesknowall]

Your question makes sense. Actually, I was wondering the same, but I was too lazy to make a thread. So you can conclude I have no answer nor theory to answer this. I hope someone else can answer, I'm also curious to know.

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Like it or not its not my series I don't have all the answers but trying to state why an arm and two souls who are humans body decay over time is just not logical, sorry.

Minato has been trained by an Uzumaki which sealing are the best in this series....its not a surprise once you see it that way. Minato did RDS as a jin sealing.
Which he probably knew a way to tweak the sealing into his own matter considering that its one of the Uzumaki's sealings.

The fox is a living thing...but if The third would have only sealed half of Orochi's body he'd still be alive as well. So would that other half that's in the RDS. If the other half survived (reality half) and someone used the RDS to get the other half he should be back.
The fox is different however he sealed it to his very soul and not just cut it and pull it in like the Third did. You would have seen the first, second, and orochi's arms in his chakra thing on the RDS like Minato:

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This is an opinion/suggestion and not a manga stated answer. I am not looking for this ^^ type of answer sir.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

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This is an opinion/suggestion and not a manga stated answer. I am not looking for this ^^ type of answer sir.

Yet I wasn't replying to you now was I?

I'll solo your thread and your answers in a bit...wait. ​

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Yet I wasn't replying to you now was I?

I'll solo your thread and your answers in a bit...wait. ​

I will be waiting to have this answered sir.

 

[Huzaifa]

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Thread soloed yet plus got from minatoyellwoflashindetention in a way plus from guy who made it credits.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

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Thread soloed yet plus got from minatoyellwoflashindetention in a way plus from guy who made it credits.

You need to leave. What you posted is just another opinion/suggestion and not a manga stated answer. Please comeback when you have one.

Edit: he also talks about the seal on Minato's body. I show that the seal is the same as Hiruzen's. So by his logic Hiruzen should have the others essence.

This is why I want a manga stated answer and not a suggestion/opinion.

 

[Huzaifa]

You need to leave. What you posted is just another opinion/suggestion and not a manga stated answer. Please comeback when you have one.

Well lets see if you are looking for a manga stated answer you need to wait in a unlikely hope of getting one. If you wanted a manga stated answer like small thing go to the question section. If there isn't one explicitly stated you need to use knowledge available. Obito being tobi was proved by sheer speculation than later proved by manga. This is the discussion section of course people will argue. Also before you make a thread decide what you want as answer. You did not say you want manga one specifically. Ok I don't know if you just edited for manga specific or not or just after etc so I am gonna shut up.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I will be waiting to have this answered sir.

Found it out....Minato actually sealed the Fox inside himself before the RDS.

He used the RDS or DDS on the fox which got attached to his soul. Then he used the 8 trigram seal on Naruto, Kushina, and himself (which is how he was able to meet Naruto) in that way by also having the fox attached to his soul/chakra/or spiritual energy like you said.

He was able to meet Naruto in a way because by him being a jin for just that moment allowed him and the foxes chakra to mingle together by connecting himself atm when Naruto is about to unleash the full power (Pain Arc) which was impossible because he didn't have the other half...which triggered Minato to come because he has the other half and some of his chakra was inside of Naruto.
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[Johndoesknowall]

Well lets see if you are looking for a manga stated answer you need to wait in a unlikely hope of getting one. If you wanted a manga stated answer like small thing go to the question section. If there isn't one explicitly stated you need to use knowledge available. Obito being tobi was proved by sheer speculation than later proved by manga. This is the discussion section of course people will argue. Also before you make a thread decide what you want as answer. You did not say you want manga one specifically. Ok I don't know if you just edited for manga specific or not or just after etc so I am gonna shut up.

Read my thread, I clearly stated what type of answer I wanted and did not want

 

[foxyladyland]

the difference between Minato and Sarutobi sealing Oro's arms and Kurama's chakra is that.


Orochimaru's arms are a part of his soul and are more than just chakra.
Tailed Beasts are not souls, but they are just chakra.

souls or chakra.. that's the difference. Also maybe the fact that Orochimaru was the one who broke the seal. ^____^

This proves my point for the souls being separated from Hiruzen while inside of the Reaper and not still sealed inside of Hiruzen.

^ that's right Lol but they were clones that sealed the Edo kage's souls. said : no 4 w.e. reason.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Found it out....Minato actually sealed the Fox inside himself before the RDS.

He used the RDS or DDS on the fox which got attached to his soul. Then he used the 8 trigram seal on Naruto, Kushina, and himself (which is how he was able to meet Naruto) in that way by also having the fox attached to his soul/chakra/or spiritual energy like you said.

He was able to meet Naruto in a way because by him being a jin for just that moment allowed him and the foxes chakra to mingle together by connecting himself atm when Naruto is about to unleash the full power (Pain Arc) which was impossible because he didn't have the other half...which triggered Minato to come because he has the other half and some of his chakra was inside of Naruto.
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You sir are trying very hard, but sometimes things are a plot hole. He used RDS to seal half of Kurama in him, after wards he used the eight trigram seal to seal the Kurama in naruto and he also left Kushina's and his chakra in it. He did not use the eight trigram seal on himself or Kushina.

Also @RED he was unleashing the fox. Kurama can manifest without the other half as shown in the pain fight, it will not be as strong as it is in full form though. The only reason Minato showed up was because the seal was broken and Minato was the fail safe.

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This is Naruto's seal

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Also again this is a suggestion/opinion answer you gave

the difference between Minato and Sarutobi sealing Oro's arms and Kurama's chakra is that.


Orochimaru's arms are a part of his soul and are more than just chakra.
Tailed Beasts are not souls, but they are just chakra.

souls or chakra.. that's the difference. Also maybe the fact that Orochimaru was the one who broke the seal. ^____^

It's a fine suggestion but I'm not looking for this

 

[Sir Blades]

Then why is Hiruzen not the jinchuriki of Oro's arms, Hashirama and Tobirama?

You can become the host of a person or a body part, i'm surprised you asked such stupid question Necro.

Guys Mr. John is not looking for an answer, many have given him an answer but because its not what he wants to hear he dismisses it. You are all just wasting your time, he doesnt know the answer either. It should even be a question, more like a statement of ignorance, cause he isn't listening to anyone.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Guys Mr. John is not looking for an answer, many have given him an answer but because its not what he wants to hear he dismisses it. You are all just wasting your time, he doesnt know the answer either. It should even be a question, more like a statement of ignorance, cause he isn't listening to anyone.

Don't take it personal. I requested an answer that has been manga stated/fact and I also stated I did not want suggestions/opinions. The answers you have given me are your suggestions/opinions.

It is obvious I do not know the answer, that is why I am asking. My point was to show that I have found a plot hole.

It's fine to have a strong drive to prove yourself or somebody wrong/right as you have tried to do to me. But don't let that turn into anger and ill feelings towards me when you can not succeed in your mission.

I appreciate you trying.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato sealed chakra.
Hiruzen sealed souls.
Rds and 8trigram seal is two different things.

 

[ajpn920]

Then why is Hiruzen not the jinchuriki of Oro's arms, Hashirama and Tobirama?

WTF is this? Is there a jinchuriki of a human soul?

OT: It is not plot. Only the chakra was divided. You can't compare it to ORO since he sealed souls while Minato sealed the chakra. Did you even wonder why it was the YANG that was given to Naruto? This is because YANG chakra can't go along with souls.

I'll explain a bit. Chakra is the resulting form of energy when two other forms of energy are mixed together. PHYsical energy + spiritual energy, right? Chakra = YIN +YANG.

YIN release which is obviously based on the used of YIN chakra is based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination. Spiritual energy is derived from the mind's consciousness (i.e. the SOUL).

Based on this, it can now be explained that YIN chakra from kurama can go along with Minato's soul. If it was YANG chakra that was sealed within Minato then it's the time we call it plot since YANG chakra is based on physical energy (needed a body) and we know that a dead person does not have a body so obviously it will not go along with Minato's soul and therefore it will become a separate entity once it is released from the death god.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Minato sealed chakra.
Hiruzen sealed souls.
Rds and 8trigram seal is two different things.

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The beast are not just chakra, they are created with both vitality and chakra. When Minato took Kurama's yin chakra he took half of Kurama's vitality to.

So technically if both were unsealed there would be two Nine tailed fox's running around. But this is just a suggestion which still does not answer my thread and is extremely opinionated.

RDS was used to seal yin Kurama in Minato

8 trigram was used to seal yang Kurama in Naruto

So give me a manga stated/fact answer to why/how Minato still has it sealed in him.

WTF is this? Is there a jinchuriki of a human soul?

OT: It is not plot. Only the chakra was divided. You can't compare it to ORO since he sealed souls while Minato sealed the chakra. Did you even wonder why it was the YANG that was given to Naruto? This is because YANG chakra can't go along with souls.

I'll explain a bit. Chakra is the resulting form of energy when two other forms of energy are mixed together. PHYsical energy + spiritual energy, right? Chakra = YIN +YANG.

YIN release which is obviously based on the used of YIN chakra is based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination. Spiritual energy is derived from the mind's consciousness (i.e. the SOUL).

Based on this, it can now be explained that YIN chakra from kurama can go along with Minato's soul. If it was YANG chakra that was sealed within Minato then it's the time we call it plot since YANG chakra is based on physical energy (needed a body) and we know that a dead person does not have a body so obviously it will not go along with Minato's soul and therefore it will become a separate entity once it is released from the death god.

Sorry but this is a well thought out explanation, but does not answer the question. Why/how is it still sealed in Minato?

Please no suggestion/opinions as I have stated in the OT, I want manga stated/fact answers.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

I like the why isn't hiruzen the ji churkki of orocnimarus arms ahahahah

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato sealed chakra.
Hiruzen sealed souls.
Rds and 8trigram seal is two different things.

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The beast are not just chakra, they are created with both vitality and chakra. When Minato took Kurama's yin chakra he took half of Kurama's vitality to.

So technically if both were unsealed there would be two Nine tailed fox's running around. But this is just a suggestion which still does not answer my thread and is extremely opinionated.

RDS was used to seal yin Kurama in Minato

8 trigram was used to seal yang Kurama in Naruto

So give me a manga stated/fact answer to why/how Minato still has it sealed in him.



Sorry but this is a well thought out explanation, but does not answer the question. Why/how is it still sealed in Minato?

Please no suggestion/opinions as I have stated in the OT, I want manga stated/fact answers.

Regardless it's still chakra. Oro's hand is his soul not his chakra. There is no debate here

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Regardless it's still chakra. Oro's hand is his soul not his chakra. There is no debate here

You are right that their should be no debate here. I have found a plot hole that seems that it can not be answered by manga fact, but only by opinion and suggestion.

Please post an answer that's manga stated/fact and not a suggest/opinion.

I would appreciate that.

 

[Super7]

I think it's obviously implied that the human soul separates when in the reaper and the bijuu/ humans don't