Minato and Death Reaper jutsu?? See is you can answer this.

[Johndoesknowall]

As we all know Minato has the yin Kurama inside of him.

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But why/how is it sealed inside of him? Hiruzen and Minato's seal on their stomach is the same.

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From what we've seen, the Reaper Jutsu takes the soul/essence the user targets. It then seals it inside of the host's body and then the user has his soul taken aswell. But we have proof that the victim sealed inside of the user is not sealed permanently. They are separated from the user once the Reaper consumes the user's soul.

This proves my point for the souls being separated from Hiruzen while inside of the Reaper and not still sealed inside of Hiruzen.

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When Hiruzen sealed Hashirama, Tobirama and Orochimaru's hands inside of him,

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we find out that they came out separately and that they weren't still sealed inside of Hiruzen.

But the only thing not to come out separately is Kurama's yin chakra. Instead it's is still inside of Minato.

How is it still inside of Minato? I believe I have found a plot hole.

Also for anybody to say he used a seal inside of the Reaper to seal Kurama inside, to be able to use a seal you need chakra. As a soul you do not possess physical energy, because you don't possess a body. Of course there are exceptions, as in you knowing a jutsu specifically allowing you to enter a spiritual form and still allowing you to be able to use chakra, etc.

But in this case Minato wasn't/shouldn't be able to do any of that. Especially since he was inside of the reaper.

So lets see if anyone can answer this with manga fact and not suggestions/opinions.

I'll be waiting.

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Also for the people saying he can use a seal in spirit form. You need both body(physical energy) and spiritual energy for chakra. I explained it a little up there but this is for those who are still confused.

 

[Sir Blades]

Minato only sealed half of the chakra based beast, you can't have a beast of untouchable chakra roam inside like that. It needed a host and therefore the is what Minato became. Just like naruto, kurama cannot manifest in complete form due to the seal and that there is only half of the chakra based beat. There is no plot hole, good try though.

 

[Stark]

Minato sealed half of Kurama inside Naruto and half in himself did he not?

 

[The Necromancer]

Minato only sealed half of the chakra based beast, you can't have a beast of untouchable chakra roam inside like that. It needed a host and therefore the is what Minato became. Just like naruto, kurama cannot manifest in complete form due to the seal and that there is only half of the chakra based beat. There is no plot hole, good try though.

Then why is Hiruzen not the jinchuriki of Oro's arms, Hashirama and Tobirama?

 

[Prince Charles]

I can only assume the rules apply different to tailed beasts?

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Then why is Hiruzen not the jinchuriki of Oro's arms, Hashirama and Tobirama?

Because that's stupid...Orochimaru's arms and the first and second souls are dying organisms.

The foxes chakra and it itself cannot die...it can only be sealed. ​

 

[China IL]

I think because Minato's was a special seal, made for sealing tails. Naruto's has a Sealing Tag and a cage. Maybe Hiruzen ddn't know how to do all of that, so he just did a basic RDS.

 

[Naruto.]

You re-made the thread, didn't you? :| Nonetheless, from Naruto Wikia:

At the user's command, the Shinigami then performs the sealing by dragging the target's soul into the user whose stomach is branded with the seal's mark. However, the sealing is double-edged as the user's soul is devoured by the Shinigami along with the target's, both souls trapped for all eternity within the fiend's stomach.

 

[The Necromancer]

Because that's stupid...Orochimaru's arms and the first and second souls are dying organisms.

The foxes chakra and it itself cannot die...it can only be sealed. ​

Like it or not the Kyuubi has a soul. It is a living construct the same as an other living being as it was given life through the Creation of All Things. Hiruzen sealed Oro's split chakra and soul within the RDS, and he did not become it's jinchuriki as Minato did.

Hiruzen sealed Hashirama's and Tobirama's souls within the RDS the same as Minato sealing the Kyuubi's split soul, and yet he did not become their jinchuriki.

 

[Johndoesknowall]

Minato only sealed half of the chakra based beast, you can't have a beast of untouchable chakra roam inside like that. It needed a host and therefore the is what Minato became. Just like naruto, kurama cannot manifest in complete form due to the seal and that there is only half of the chakra based beat. There is no plot hole, good try though.

This is not an answer but nice try though. The creature was sealed inside of Minato but only by the reaper seal. As seen by orochimaru summoning them back, the things inside of the the reaper were sparated. You saying that Kurama can't manifest in complete forms doesn't matter.

Naruto has the seal open so the chakra should have went back to him same as Orochimaru's hands went back to him.

Minato sealed half of Kurama inside Naruto and half in himself did he not?

He only used the Uzamaki seal on Naruto and the reaper seal on himself. But naruto has opened the Uzamaki seal, so the chakra should have returned to Naruto and should have not stayed with Minato.

You re-made the thread, didn't you? :| Nonetheless, from Naruto Wikia:

At the user's command, the Shinigami then performs the sealing by dragging the target's soul into the user whose stomach is branded with the seal's mark. However, the sealing is double-edged as the user's soul is devoured by the Shinigami along with the target's, both souls trapped for all eternity within the fiend's stomach.

I got that deleted cause I posted it in the wrong section.

How does this answer my thread? It only states the opinion of a fan who made the site. Also some of the material posted in the OP isn't mentioned on that site.

 

[Huzaifa]

Let me say this only one thing makes sense a biju is not the same as a human. Different rules most likely. Also the reaper is gonna have chackra in his stomach? Another thing as we have seen hiruzen is not god or something that he knows everything perfectly. Don't you dare say he knows all of konohas jutsu. If he did why didn't he spam ftg and win the 3rd ninja war? So it either hiruzen did a inferior use of the reaper or biju different rule or in combination.

 

[Prince Charles]

Possibly the other half of kurama was attached to Minato it being a tailed beast and all and the fact that the yin kurama in minato was probably in a cage similar to naruto's kurama meaning if minato left the yin kurama went along with it as well due to the cage binding them due to the seal.

 

[The Necromancer]

Let me say this only one thing makes sense a biju is not the same as a human. Different rules most likely. Also the reaper is gonna have chackra in his stomach? Another thing as we have seen hiruzen is not god or something that he knows everything perfectly. Don't you dare say he knows all of konohas jutsu. If he did why didn't he spam ftg and win the 3rd ninja war? So it either hiruzen did a inferior use of the reaper or biju different rule or in combination.

The fact that the only explanation possible is speculation on an unexplained rule, means it's a plot hole.

 

[Wolfus]

Your question makes sense. Actually, I was wondering the same, but I was too lazy to make a thread. So you can conclude I have no answer nor theory to answer this. I hope someone else can answer, I'm also curious to know.

Based on other posts, the only thing I can think of is that : hashi and tobirama are souls(their souls were sealed) and so is orochimaru's arms(part of his soul, I guess). However, the part of kurama sealed in minato is just chakra. With this explained, I guess things works in different ways for souls and chakras. I guess that when hiruzen's soul went to the reaper, hashi's and tobirama's were also released because maybe a soul can't be bound to another. However, kurama's chakra stood attached to minato's soul.

This is only a hypothesis, it's the best I could think of.

 

[Huzaifa]

The fact that the only explanation possible is speculation on an unexplained rule, means it's a plot hole.

So kishi ass pull with itachi using susanoo without his ms on and madara ass-pull of susanoo blind? It is most likely he kishi forgot to explain or he doesn't need to explain everything to you and you can figure it out. We are in the war arc right now do you think kishi could explain this to us?

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Like it or not the Kyuubi has a soul. It is a living construct the same as an other living being as it was given life through the Creation of All Things. Hiruzen sealed Oro's split chakra and soul within the RDS, and he did not become it's jinchuriki as Minato did.

Hiruzen sealed Hashirama's and Tobirama's souls within the RDS the same as Minato sealing the Kyuubi's split soul, and yet he did not become their jinchuriki.

Like it or not its not my series I don't have all the answers but trying to state why an arm and two souls who are humans body decay over time is just not logical, sorry.

Minato has been trained by an Uzumaki which sealing are the best in this series....its not a surprise once you see it that way. Minato did RDS as a jin sealing.
Which he probably knew a way to tweak the sealing into his own matter considering that its one of the Uzumaki's sealings.

The fox is a living thing...but if The third would have only sealed half of Orochi's body he'd still be alive as well. So would that other half that's in the RDS. If the other half survived (reality half) and someone used the RDS to get the other half he should be back.
The fox is different however he sealed it to his very soul and not just cut it and pull it in like the Third did. You would have seen the first, second, and orochi's arms in his chakra thing on the RDS like Minato:

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[Johndoesknowall]

The fact that the only explanation possible is speculation on an unexplained rule, means it's a plot hole.

This guy gets it ^^

 

[Huzaifa]

Like it or not its not my series I don't have all the answers but trying to state why an arm and two souls who are humans body decay over time is just not logical, sorry.

Minato has been trained by an Uzumaki which sealing are the best in this series....its not a surprise once you see it that way. Minato did RDS as a jin sealing.
Which he probably knew a way to tweak the sealing into his own matter considering that its one of the Uzumaki's sealings.

The fox is a living thing...but if The third would have only sealed half of Orochi's body he'd still be alive as well. So would that other half that's in the RDS. If the other half survived (reality half) and someone used the RDS to get the other half he should be back.
The fox is different however he sealed it to his very soul and not just cut it and pull it in like the Third did. You would have seen the first, second, and orochi's arms in his chakra thing on the RDS like Minato:

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Lol the thread got owned.

 

[AlphaScythian]

It appears that sould can be split as well, just as orochimaru has split his among curse marks

 

[The Necromancer]

So kishi ass pull with itachi using susanoo without his ms on and madara ass-pull of susanoo blind? It is most likely he kishi forgot to explain or he doesn't need to explain everything to you and you can figure it out. We are in the war arc right now do you think kishi could explain this to us?

Obviously. It only takes 3 panels max and would have happened when the Hokage were revived or when Minato revealed KCM.

You need to look at it like a writer. A writer doesn't exclude explanation because he expects the top 10% of his readers (which we here on Narutobase certainly are) to form their own explanations based on speculation of past chapters combed through with extreme precision. A writer presents concepts clearly and either with detailed explanation or with exceptionally clear intent so as to be inferred by even the bottom 10% of his readers.