MINATO’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity

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MINATO’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity:
I’ve been thinking about Minato’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity and then came up with this idea. I’ll discuss his nature affinity first to be able to trace his lineage.
Here we go:
1. Let’s talk about FTG. What is FTG? We all know that it is a Space-Time Ninjutsu. A master of this technique can manipulate space-time continuum.
2. Under what nature affinity does FTG fall? We have 5 basics element used for elemental ninjutsu. They are fire, wind, lightning, earth, and water. FTG is non elemental but it is classified as a ninjutsu. We can therefore conclude that FTG is outside the 5 basic elements.
3. There are advance types of elements, can we put FTG in this category? Maybe/No! Advance types requires Kekkei Genkai or a special ability rarely seen. Advance type combines elements to create a new element.
4. FTG is non elemental technique so it can’t fall under the 5 basic nature affinities and the 14 advance type.
5. This technique now falls under the 6th type which is YIN and YANG! Yin relates to one's spiritual energy and Yang relates to one's physical energy and it's necessary to utilise both of these in order to mould chakra for NINJUTSU. Thus, FTG was form by moulding Yin and Yang. This also explains why Minato was very knowledgeable about Yin Yang that he was able to separate kyuubi’s chakra into Yin Yang.
6. We only have 3 Space time users. They are Minato, Tobi, and Tobirama. Only Tobi was shown to have Kekkei Genkai and we can also see that he has Yin Release, Yang Release, and Yin-Yang Release. Can we consider Tobirama to be a Kekkei Genkai user eventhough it was not stated in his BIO? Of course. He is a senju and senju’s inherited the BODY of the sage.
7. If FTG was form by moulding Yin and Yang, we can conclude that it is an advance type of nature affinity. We also know that only a Kekkei Genkai user or someone having special ability can mould elements to form a new element. This will lead us to..
8. Minato is a descendant of the SENJU clan. This shows why he is so fast and was able to create Space-Time technique. What if he is one of the rare individuals that possesses special ability? That is probable but Minato strongly held the will of fire philosophy fitted to be a characteristic of the Senju clan. He can also be a Senju with a special ability.
9. Adding YIN-YANG to his rasengan was probably his goal but failed because it is non elemental. It makes sense since it is really hard to combine non elemental affinity.
10. Like Izanagi which removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space, S/T techniques removes boundaries between time and space which makes it INSTANTANEOUS. Only KKG users can mould two elements to form a new one.
DISCUSS PLS.....
 
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Number 6 is wrong. There are many S/T users, such as Kakashi's Kamui. Anyone who uses summons is an S/T user. I am sure FTG is just a reverse summoning, meaning he summons himself to a seal he has put somewhere else.
 
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Number 6 is wrong. There are many S/T users, anyone who uses summons is an S/T user. I am sure FTG is just a reverse summoning, meaning he summons himself to a seal he has put somewhere else.

You are wrong. All summoning-based techniques are space–time manipulation related, as they warp the targets through a dimensional void to the summoner's location but the user can't teleport himself to another location.

Check here:
 

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Kakashi can teleport objects/person, but can't teleport himself to another location.
 

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You are wrong. All summoning-based techniques are space–time manipulation related, as they warp the targets through a dimensional void to the summoner's location but the user can't teleport himself to another location.

Check here:

S/T jutsu's are jutsus that allow you to manipulate time in respect to space. When people summon, their summons are instantly transported to them, which is why it is classified as a S/T technique. Kamui teleports things to another dimension, which is why it is classified as a S/T jutsu.
 

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Summonings are just related to Space-Time Ninjutsu, but no one other than Minato, Tobi, Tobirama can manipulate time and space. They can be in two places at the same time.
 

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Summonings are just related to Space-Time Ninjutsu, but no one other than Minato, Tobi, Tobirama can manipulate time and space. They can be in two places at the same time.

No... I don't know where you got that from... summonings are S/T jutsu's. Every S/T jutsu manipulates Space and Time, hence the name. You don't need to teleport yourself for it to be considered a S/T jutsu.
 

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S/T jutsu's are jutsus that allow you to manipulate time in respect to space. When people summon, their summons are instantly transported to them, which is why it is classified as a S/T technique. Kamui teleports things to another dimension, which is why it is classified as a S/T jutsu.

Can you give a list of a summoner other than the 3 listed that can freely use time and space? They can summon, but that's all.
 

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Kakashi can teleport objects/person, but can't teleport himself to another location.

Because he is not Uchiha and doesn't fully control or perfected his Kamui.

Tobi can teleport using what seems to me a similar or the same technique!
 

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Summonings are just related to Space-Time Ninjutsu, but no one other than Minato, Tobi, Tobirama can manipulate time and space. They can be in two places at the same time.

No, they cannot be in two places at the same time, they r just fast enough that it looks like + FTG is a Yin-Yang release, it doesnt have any affinity.
 

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Because he is not Uchiha and doesn't fully control or perfected his Kamui.

Tobi can teleport using what seems to me a similar or the same technique!

Agreed. Tobi is part of the 3 space-time users that can manipulate time and space.

By the way, Itachi can't teleport so as Sasuke and they are true Uchiha's. It could only mean that they don't have Yin-Yang affinity.
 

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Can you give a list of a summoner other than the 3 listed that can freely use time and space? They can summon, but that's all.

Everyone who summons can summon freely.. Kakashi can use Kamui freely (if there were no side affects).
 

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No, they cannot be in two places at the same time, they r just fast enough that it looks like + FTG is a Yin-Yang release, it doesnt have any affinity.

Yin-Yang is the 6th type:
 

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Everyone who summons can summon freely.. Kakashi can use Kamui freely (if there were no side affects).

Can he teleport himself to another location?
 

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Yin-Yang is the 6th type:

Ying Yang affinity has nothing to do with S/T jutsus... where do you get your information from?

Can he teleport himself to another location?

So what? That doesn't matter, it is still a S/T technique. Who said Tobirama can teleport himself to another location?
 
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Ying Yang affility has nothing to do with S/T jutsus... where do you get your information from?

FTG is a space time NINJUTSU! Ninjutsus requires affinities. Since FTG can't be elemental, then it belongs to YIN-YANG type.

 

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No... I don't know where you got that from... summonings are S/T jutsu's. Every S/T jutsu manipulates Space and Time, hence the name. You don't need to teleport yourself for it to be considered a S/T jutsu.

That what makes them famous. Their teleportation technique. I'm talking about FTG and under what affinity it is.

Summonings means to summon, to call, to request to appear. A user can summon frog or to request the frog to appear in his/her location. Where is teleportation here? Did the summoner travels to a different location instantly? He was only able to call his summons.
 
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FTG is a space time NINJUTSU! Ninjutsus requires affinities. Since FTG can't be elemental, then it belongs to YIN-YANG type.


Ninjutsu's are just techniques that use chakra... you don't need an afinity. where are you getting all this information from?

That what makes them famous. Their teleportation technique. I'm talking about FTG and under what affinity it is.

You don't need an affinity to use S/T ninjutsu's.
 

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Ninjutsu's are just techniques that use chakra... you don't need an afinity. where are you getting all this information from?



You don't need an affinity to use S/T ninjutsu's.

Does it mean that a user needs only a chakra to do S/T techniques? I'm referring to the nature transformation type.
 

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Summonings means to summon, to call, to request to appear. A user can summon frog or to request the frog to appear in his/her location. Where is teleportation here? Did the summoner travels to a different location instantly? He was only able to call his summons.

The SUMMON traveles to them INSTANTLY, that is why it is a Space Time Ninjutsu. You think the user needs to be the one to teleport for it to be considered a Space Time Ninjutsu? That is where you are wrong.

Does it mean that a user needs only a chakra to do S/T techniques? I'm referring to the nature transformation type.

I know what you are talking about. S/T jutsu's have nothing to do with the users affinity. Yin-Yang release doesn't even work like that.
 
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