[VS] Mihawk vs Marineford White Beard.

[Vandenre1ch]

Because Wb took a serious injury prior to having that heart attack, multiple serious injuries actually. The cumulative damage pushed him over, not the age alone.

WB only got stabbed once(Squadro) before the first heart attack against Akainu. Injuries will definitely pile up and agro WB's heart. You yourself said that WB may receive a serious injury from Mihawk. Nothing is stopping WB from having an attack in a top tier bout.

 

[ssjelf]

WB only got stabbed once(Squadro) before the first heart attack against Akainu. Injuries will definitely pile up and agro WB's heart. You yourself said that WB may receive a serious injury from Mihawk. Nothing is stopping WB from having an attack in a top tier bout.

I though he got shot by kizaru too but I guess not.

I would only think that he would have one after a period of time had passed after an injury like with squardo, not immediately, and also not before getting the chance to exert himself, (the fight with john giant, a brief fight with aokiji and being frozen, and exchanging some blows with akainu.) I dont think mihawk would get a legitimate shot in without receiving one in turn. Even blowing off half of WB's face failed to immediately cause a heart attack and he was still in a condition to counter attack. One maybe two hits should put mihawk out of the fight.

 

[Pirate King]

wb extreme dif

 

[Main I]

I though he got shot by kizaru too but I guess not.

I would only think that he would have one after a period of time had passed after an injury like with squardo, not immediately, and also not before getting the chance to exert himself, (the fight with john giant, a brief fight with aokiji and being frozen, and exchanging some blows with akainu.) I dont think mihawk would get a legitimate shot in without receiving one in turn. Even blowing off half of WB's face failed to immediately cause a heart attack and he was still in a condition to counter attack. One maybe two hits should put mihawk out of the fight.

Yeah, WB's quakes aren't one or two shorting any top tier. Akainu tanked two of his strongest blood lusted quakes and was just dandy. He even went and #Rekt his whole crew afterwards. Mihawk is not getting two shotted, lol. And WB caught how many magma fists because of his constant heart attacks? Mihawk will be taking limbs in these instances.

 

[ssjelf]

Yeah, WB's quakes aren't one or two shorting any top tier. Akainu tanked two of his strongest blood lusted quakes and was just dandy. He even went and #Rekt his whole crew afterwards. Mihawk is not getting two shotted, lol. And WB caught how many magma fists because of his constant heart attacks? Mihawk will be taking limbs in these instances.

Mihawk has no feats to suggest he has the durability of akainu who has been shown to have some of the best haki in the series so far. After two hits akainu wa really hurting. mihawk isnt akainu. Not only this but I already countered the heart attack points. Every heart attack he had was due to damage received several minutes prior. No attack on its own caused him an immediate heart attack. If Mihawk is getting an attack, so is whitebeard (just like when akainu melted WBs face, hardly slowed him at all, a limb is nothing more), gura punch does enough damage to cripple mihawk, one more will finish him. And yeah mihawk isnt top tier, thats reserved for WB, Roger, Garp and maybe akainu. Those four are on a level beyond even mihawk. WB also has superior haki thus making mihawk attacks do less damage. I doubt a limb will be chopped off, more likely a wound similar tot he one zoro got but not as severe

One final edit is that mihawk already measued the distance between him and Wb and clearly concluded Wb is beyond him meaning it wouldnt be extreme diff

 

[Bogard]

SBS hardly means anything just letting you know. Oda says most of that stuff on a whim. And we already know Mihawk is a legend, nothing that we don't already know in that SBS.

The point is not to know whether or not Mihawk is legendary, no and no Oda never do such thing on a whim. There is a reason why the first person that he thought about when talking about legendary figures in a fighting contest was them. It infact goes in perfect relationship to the discussion between Shanks and WB on his ship where he happened to have included Mihawk's status to describe Shanks' rose in power. It's just like how he stated in an SBS that he wanted to include Shiki in the discussion when talking about old legendarily figures but couldn't because he didn't want to confuse the readers. He only puts the guys who appears in his mental conception of guys around the same level of power. The point is to see who Oda places in the same breath with who. Oda wouldn't put Chinjao in the same breath with WB simply because he was a legendary pirate, especially in a fighting context like this one. Oda used the gag of people on WB, Mihawk and Shanks level fighting like kids while facing each other to show how ridiculous it would be to write them fighting each other this way instead of classic situations. That was the whole thing around it

 

[Main I]

Mihawk has no feats to suggest he has the durability of akainu who has been shown to have some of the best haki in the series so far. After two hits akainu wa really hurting. mihawk isnt akainu. Not only this but I already countered the heart attack points. Every heart attack he had was due to damage received several minutes prior. No attack on its own caused him an immediate heart attack. If Mihawk is getting an attack, so is whitebeard (just like when akainu melted WBs face, hardly slowed him at all, a limb is nothing more), gura punch does enough damage to cripple mihawk, one more will finish him. And yeah mihawk isnt top tier, thats reserved for WB, Roger, Garp and maybe akainu. Those four are on a level beyond even mihawk. WB also has superior haki thus making mihawk attacks do less damage. I doubt a limb will be chopped off, more likely a wound similar tot he one zoro got but not as severe

One final edit is that mihawk already measued the distance between him and Wb and clearly concluded Wb is beyond him meaning it wouldnt be extreme diff

Akainu wasn't "really hurting", I don't know why people say that. He was immobilized for a moment but that does not in anyway mean significant damage has been dealt. Large blows to the abdomen tend to leave people winded. The liver blow is a key shot in boxing for that reason entirely, actually. On top of that, Akainu was just fine and lacked even a drop of blood afterwards. He wasn't noticably injured at all until shredding all of WB's commanders. So I have no idea in what universe was Akainu severely injured after WB's quakes for you to say Mihawk would be. Next, it doesn't matter if Mihawk is Akainu or not. As a top tier they should have similar durability. Him and Kuzan seemed equally injured for the most part after him and Akainu's bout. Kuzan who fought Jozu and was injured by him (regardless of how little). Prior to that one could say Kuzan had no durability feats in comparison to Akainu. In fact, he was injured by a WB commander the same bunch who couldn't even bypass his intangibility. Yet what do you know, they were both said to have had near fatal injuries after their duel. This leads me to believe that all top tiers have relatively similar durability (excluding Kaido).

Now, what on earth are you even on about? WB's first Heart attack was completely random. As well as his second. His health is steadily declining and without his life support he is constant danger of these heart attacks. He wouldn't magically not have them unless injured, that's not how sickness works. Any fight with Mihawk would last for at least a day. How long would WB hold out? After less than 5 minutes of accumulated battle with Akainu he was on his deathbed, really. WB lacks stamina and proper health. And whoa, your tier system is something else. How can Roger, WB, Akainu, and Garp be the only top tiers? What? What is Shanks? Or Kaido? Didn't Kuzan (the portrayed weakest Admiral) nearly kill Akainu in a ten day duel? Lmfao, if the Yonku aren't top tier then... Lol.

And please, you're purposely misinterpreting that. He was testing the "true" distance between him and the strongest man in the world. He was seemingly standing right there but how far away was he really? You're seeing it as testing 1 on 1 strength when that wasn't even the gist of the metaphor. Kizaru also got a taste of the "true distance" in between them and WB when he also attacked and was intercepted by Marco. Is Kizaru losing to old, sick WB without extreme diff? No. Mihawk would take limbs from this man just as Akainu would have if not for PIS.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Mihawk wins.

 

[Ridoku X]

I'm gonna go with Whitebeard. v_v

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[Punk Hazard]

Mihawk wins because while WB possesses more power and strength, his sickness will strike him multiple times, leaving openings for brutal attacks and preventing him from truly using his full power.

 

[ssjelf]

Akainu wasn't "really hurting", I don't know why people say that. He was immobilized for a moment but that does not in anyway mean significant damage has been dealt. Large blows to the abdomen tend to leave people winded. The liver blow is a key shot in boxing for that reason entirely, actually. On top of that, Akainu was just fine and lacked even a drop of blood afterwards. He wasn't noticably injured at all until shredding all of WB's commanders. So I have no idea in what universe was Akainu severely injured after WB's quakes for you to say Mihawk would be. Next, it doesn't matter if Mihawk is Akainu or not. As a top tier they should have similar durability. Him and Kuzan seemed equally injured for the most part after him and Akainu's bout. Kuzan who fought Jozu and was injured by him (regardless of how little). Prior to that one could say Kuzan had no durability feats in comparison to Akainu. In fact, he was injured by a WB commander the same bunch who couldn't even bypass his intangibility. Yet what do you know, they were both said to have had near fatal injuries after their duel. This leads me to believe that all top tiers have relatively similar durability (excluding Kaido).

Now, what on earth are you even on about? WB's first Heart attack was completely random. As well as his second. His health is steadily declining and without his life support he is constant danger of these heart attacks. He wouldn't magically not have them unless injured, that's not how sickness works. Any fight with Mihawk would last for at least a day. How long would WB hold out? After less than 5 minutes of accumulated battle with Akainu he was on his deathbed, really. WB lacks stamina and proper health. And whoa, your tier system is something else. How can Roger, WB, Akainu, and Garp be the only top tiers? What? What is Shanks? Or Kaido? Didn't Kuzan (the portrayed weakest Admiral) nearly kill Akainu in a ten day duel? Lmfao, if the Yonku aren't top tier then... Lol.

And please, you're purposely misinterpreting that. He was testing the "true" distance between him and the strongest man in the world. He was seemingly standing right there but how far away was he really? You're seeing it as testing 1 on 1 strength when that wasn't even the gist of the metaphor. Kizaru also got a taste of the "true distance" in between them and WB when he also attacked and was intercepted by Marco. Is Kizaru losing to old, sick WB without extreme diff? No. Mihawk would take limbs from this man just as Akainu would have if not for PIS.

I suggest you re read that arc. That first heart attack was due to squardos attack. It left Wb on one knee afterward. His heart attacks came after recieveing injury every single time, but they were not immediate.

Akainu was covered in blood.

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And when he conveniently appears again after WB died

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You are basing all of WBs fights on the fact that he was injured during them. Take away the injuires and he performs better. He was beating akainu extreme diff while being injured multiple times from other sources outside their battle, meanwhile akainu started fighting unscathed. The only admiral that takes him to extreme diff is akainu because he has proved to be the strongest admiral. Say what you will about aokijis fight with akainu but we know who won. Stanind above someone in strength at this level puts you into another tier, even if its only a minute amount of strength. Especially considering WB stands even above akainu. The title Fleet admiral says it all. The marine system is a strength based one with the exception of garp.

The true distance thing is a metaphor for strength not sure how it could be anything else.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I suggest you re read that arc. That first heart attack was due to squardos attack. It left Wb on one knee afterward. His heart attacks came after recieveing injury every single time, but they were not immediate.

Akainu was covered in blood.

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And when he conveniently appears again after WB died

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You are basing all of WBs fights on the fact that he was injured during them. Take away the injuires and he performs better. He was beating akainu extreme diff while being injured multiple times from other sources outside their battle, meanwhile akainu started fighting unscathed. The only admiral that takes him to extreme diff is akainu because he has proved to be the strongest admiral. Say what you will about aokijis fight with akainu but we know who won. Stanind above someone in strength at this level puts you into another tier, even if its only a minute amount of strength. Especially considering WB stands even above akainu. The title Fleet admiral says it all. The marine system is a strength based one with the exception of garp.

The true distance thing is a metaphor for strength not sure how it could be anything else.

Squardo's stab had nothing to do with that heart attack.

And Akainu reappeared after WB died because he fell far underground and had to melt the ground and travel through it as magma to get back to the surface. That takes a while.

 

[kageking]

We saw whitebeard damaged by regular marines and regular bulllets/weapons, him stopping a Mihawk slash would be out of question. As we saw vs akainu though Whitebeard is a monster, if he got his hands on Mihawk he could probably one shot him, although hed probably take a lethal wound in the process.
I'd say it ends as a draw with both killing each other/giving each other fatal wounds.

 

[Punk Hazard]

We saw whitebeard damaged by regular marines and regular bulllets/weapons, him stopping a Mihawk slash would be out of question. As we saw vs akainu though Whitebeard is a monster, if he got his hands on Mihawk he could probably one shot him, although hed probably take a lethal wound in the process.
I'd say it ends as a draw with both killing each other/giving each other fatal wounds.

There is no way Whitebeard is oneshotting any top tier.

 

[Hexuze]

MF WB would win at extreme diff.

Mihawk wins.

You can use my avatar of Robin I used a long time ago if you want:

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[CrimsonReaper]

MF WB would win at extreme diff.



You can use my avatar of Robin I used a long time ago if you want:

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woah it looks nice thanks!

 

[Main I]

I suggest you re read that arc. That first heart attack was due to squardos attack. It left Wb on one knee afterward. His heart attacks came after recieveing injury every single time, but they were not immediate.

Akainu was covered in blood.

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And when he conveniently appears again after WB died

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You are basing all of WBs fights on the fact that he was injured during them. Take away the injuires and he performs better. He was beating akainu extreme diff while being injured multiple times from other sources outside their battle, meanwhile akainu started fighting unscathed. The only admiral that takes him to extreme diff is akainu because he has proved to be the strongest admiral. Say what you will about aokijis fight with akainu but we know who won. Stanind above someone in strength at this level puts you into another tier, even if its only a minute amount of strength. Especially considering WB stands even above akainu. The title Fleet admiral says it all. The marine system is a strength based one with the exception of garp.

The true distance thing is a metaphor for strength not sure how it could be anything else.

I'm guessing you missed the scan where Akainu was telling Jinbei to hand over Luffy right before Croc sneak attacked him. Akainu was 100% unscathed. And please, this One Piece. Chinjao spewed blood after Luffy's Hawk rifle but it did nearly 0 damage, correct? Bellamy's hits made Luffy spit up blood. Was he severely damaged? Not even, man. And what are you talking about? The sole injury WB had before facing Akainu was Squado's wound and which did virtually nothing whatsoever. WB was in nearly perfect condition before his bout with Akainu, stop saying things like that.


Also, you act like the point I made with Kuzan wasn't relevant, haha. Kuzan was portrayed to be the weakest Admiral. He was introduced first and matched with the 3rd strongest member of the WB pirates as well as lacking a parallel when Shanks arrived. Yet he still nearly killed Akainu in a duel that lasted ten days. Guy, you cannot fight someone for ten days straight nearly killing each other and then say they're in entire different tiers of strength. That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Saying the Yonkou who are the strongest pirates in the world, aren't top tiers is just blasphemy. There's no real getting around that. And as someone else mentioned, Akainu was sent underground by WB's quake. He had to burrow throw solid earth to reach the battlefield. WB's two bloodlusted rage quakes didn't do anything to Akainu. He was going as ham as ever as if nothin ever happened. Again, WB was on his deathbed. He received a whopping 2 laser beams from Kizaru between his fist and second fight with Akainu. 90% of the damage accumulated before his death was dealt to him by Akainu so please don't use the "he was injured!" Excuse. Akainu was the one who inflicted those injuries.


Mihawk isn't erring two-shotted by anyone. WB's heart attacks were completely random and the more he physically exerts himself the more intense they will be. That's how these things work, my friend. He would need an idefinite amount of time to fight Mihawk when he lacks the stamina to do so. He will be hacking up blood in no time and get some horrific injuries because of it. I'm not even saying WB wins per say but nobody is mid or high diffing Mihawk. Nobody.



Edit: He was testing the true distance between the man who seemed right there. He was in his range and seemingly standing before them yet at the same time was impossible for them to reach. He wanted to test the real distance between him and the so-called WSM. He wanted to see if his strength was enough to reach him. Kizaru also failed to "reach" WB. It's pretty simple.

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Squardo's stab had nothing to do with that heart attack.

And Akainu reappeared after WB died because he fell far underground and had to melt the ground and travel through it as magma to get back to the surface. That takes a while.

I had read someone saying that originally Akainu was supposed to die after the last WB's quake.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I had read someone saying that originally Akainu was supposed to die after the last WB's quake.

You mean Oda planned Akainu dying from WB's punch? If so, I've never heard that before in any SBS or interview and its pretty stupid for Akainu to be introduced and die in the span of 20 chapters.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Mihawk shits. WB fights to openly and with one cut from Mihawk old man WB is dead.​