[Discussion] Mihawk is not Yonko level

[Joseph Gomes]

All the admirals can fight with Shanks for a long period of time. Shanks is not Whitebeard, he isn't beating any admiral less than high diff. Especially Kizaru is seriously nerfed in the manga, he's by far the fastest character and has incredibly powerful long range and short range attacks. Aokiji can freeze a tsunami or part of the sea in an instant. And Akainu is Akainu

Just because Mihawk spurred with Shanks doesn't mean he's yonko level. If he was then he would be a yonko himself. Mihawk is admiral level, and all admirals can push the yonko to high diff 1 on 1

In short, you're not yonko level unless you're a yonko

 

[Fireplay]

Lol what? That doesn't make sense. So Garp isn't/wasn't Yonko level?

Rayleigh wasn't Yonko level?
Roger wasn't Yonko level?

None of them were Yonko so i don't see your point. Mihawk is the strongest Schichibukai and casually cut up a tsunami with a slash that was intended to simply cut off the head of a fodder...

Via hype he is Yonko level imo.

 

[Ryuma720]

Of course he's not

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Lol what? That doesn't make sense. So Garp isn't/wasn't Yonko level?

Rayleigh wasn't Yonko level?
Roger wasn't Yonko level?

None of them were Yonko so i don't see your point. Mihawk is the strongest Schichibukai and casually cut up a tsunami with a slash that was intended to simply cut off the head of a fodder...

Via hype he is Yonko level.

Sorry dude, Garp Rayleigh and Roger are from past era where Yonko didn't exist. Garp was the strongest Marine from reputation, he turned down promotion several times coz he's lazy

Roger was the Pirate King. He has his own tier- Pirate King level. Garp, Whitebeard and Roger are PK level

Rayleigh is now retired, if he was a pirate he would be admiral level as well. Prime Rayleigh is definitely yonk level, but there was no yonko back in the day

By hype, Mihawk is high admiral level, and admirals themselves are close to yonko level. Especially by feats Mihawk has nothing over the admirals

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Lol what? That doesn't make sense. So Garp isn't/wasn't Yonko level?

Rayleigh wasn't Yonko level?
Roger wasn't Yonko level?

None of them were Yonko so i don't see your point. Mihawk is the strongest Schichibukai and casually cut up a tsunami with a slash that was intended to simply cut off the head of a fodder...

Via hype he is Yonko level imo.

What he said
Mihawk is Indeed would be a level of a Yonkou there is NO Doubt Zoro will be a Yonkou level and he will fight Mihawk or the person Who Kills Mihawk so yeah he will be a Yonkou level

 

[Bogard]

The only reason Mihawk isn't a yonkou is because he has no crew and territories(because he is not interested). Without a crew and territories even Whitebeard couldn't be a yonkou. In other words, he has the power of a yonkou but isn't interested in becoming one

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Sorry dude, Garp Rayleigh and Roger are from past era where Yonko didn't exist. Garp was the strongest Marine from reputation, hectirned down promotion several times coz he's lazy

Roger was the Pirate King. He has his own tier- Pirate King level. Garp, Whitebeard and Roger are PK level

Rayleigh is now retired, if he was a pirate he would be admiral level as well

By hype, Mihawk is high admiral level, and admirals themselves are close to yonko level. Especially by feats Mihawk has nothing over the admirals

Feats what you DO MEAN
FIGHTING Shanks is a FEAT RIGHT THERE
Mihawk SLASHING A Frozen SEA of a ADMIRAL is a Feat
Him Going through the CALM SEA BY HIMSELF Him Sailing by himself is a Feat man
Him DESTROYING Zoro is a Feat


DO you actually KNOW WHAT a YONKOU IS Its based On YOUR Political and territorial Stand you dont have to be the strongest its how much land and how much people follow
Buggy will soon be a Yonkou you see how he reached Shikubai

 

[Fireplay]

Sorry dude, Garp Rayleigh and Roger are from past era where Yonko didn't exist. Garp was the strongest Marine from reputation, hectirned down promotion several times coz he's lazy

Roger was the Pirate King. He has his own tier- Pirate King level. Garp, Whitebeard and Roger are PK level

Rayleigh is now retired, if he was a pirate he would be admiral level as well

By hype, Mihawk is high admiral level, and admirals themselves are close to yonko level. Especially by feats Mihawk has nothing over the admirals

Again, Garp was the strongest marine is your argument. Mihawk is the strongest Shichibukai.

Also, if the admirals are close to Yonko level then wouldn't high-admiral level mean=Yonko level?

You're making too many speculations considering that we haven't even seen what the Yonko look like. The Yonko are the 4 strongest pirates in the world whereas the admirals are the WG's strongest force and 3 of the strongest marines.

What makes you think that Yonko>admiral? Nothing is indicating that BM and Kaido are both>Aokiji, Fujitora, Kizaru and Akainu.

Mihawk sails the seas alone in a raft that looks like a coffin. He aint afraid of the Yonko.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Feats what you DO MEAN
FIGHTING Shanks is a FEAT RIGHT THERE
Mihawk SLASHING A Frozen SEA of a ADMIRAL is a Feat
Him Going through the CALM SEA BY HIMSELF Him Sailing by himself is a Feat man
Him DESTROYING Zoro is a Feat

All the admirals can replicate everything Mihawk has done. Everything

Just because you can fight Shanks doesn't mean you're yonko level

 

[Bogard]

All the admirals can replicate everything Mihawk has done. Everything

Just because you can fight Shanks doesn't mean you're yonko level

And? Admiral level is the same as yonkou level. There is relatively close to no difference between them in power

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Again, Garp was the strongest marine is your argument. Mihawk is the strongest Shichibukai.

Also, if the admirals are close to Yonko level then wouldn't high-admiral level mean=Yonko level?

You're making too many speculations considering that we haven't even seen what the Yonko look like. The Yonko are the 4 strongest pirates in the world whereas the admirals are the WG's strongest force and 3 of the strongest marines.

What makes you think that Yonko>admiral? Nothing is indicating that BM and Kaido are both>Aokiji, Fujitora, Kizaru and Akainu.

Doflamingo made a fake resignatiom drana rather than provoking Kaido. Yonko are Yonko, that's why they're yonko

Characters from past era had different powerscaling, title and reputation. they can't be compared to current titles...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

And? Admiral level is the same as yonkou level. There is relatively close to no difference between them in power

That's what I stated in the OP, no yonko can beat an admiral less than high diff

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He's not Yonkou Level, and yet he's the Worlds Strongest Swordsman? (Therefore stronger than ADMIRAL Fujitora and at least matching Shanks)

 

[Hexuze]

Yonko captains are admiral level... there is no such thing as yonko level, this should be evident after seeing the WSM (WB) vs Akainu. WB left that battle with half his face melted off and a huge hole in torso, he even nearly collapsed at one point during the fight & Akainu could of easily killed him at that point instead of just staring at him. They're not in another league/tier than the admirals either.

Mihawk is admiral level by hype/plot.

 

[Fireplay]

Doflamingo made a fake resignatiom drana rather than provoking Kaido. Yonko are Yonko, that's why they're yonko

He also walked away when he saw Aokiji...the only reason why DD didn't piss his pants after seeing Fujitora was because he knew Fujitora couldn't touch him because of his shichi status whereas Kaido and Aokiji don't care. Kaido is supposedly merciless so he would've killed DD on the spot whereas Aokiji is a good guy.

DD also laughed when WB was going ham at MF...

Characters from past era had different powerscaling, title and reputation. they can't be compared to current titles...

Again, you're getting past the point and contradicting yourself at the same time. If back then Yonko was a title then Garp would've been above that. A title is just a title.

Yonko=4 strongest pirates in the world who rule over the New world...

Now what exactly about that description indicates that someone who isn't a pirate (Admirals, Mihawk) can't be as strong as them or stronger?

Im pretty sure Mihawk, Akainu and maybe Aokiji>all Yonko except for Shanks (my own speculation) can't confirm it since we haven't even seen the Yonko.

There could be a pirate put there who is as strong as the Yonko. He isn't ruling over the NW though which is why he aint no Yonko.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Yonko captains are admiral level... there is no such thing as yonko level, this should be evident after seeing the WSM (WB) vs Akainu. WB left that battle with half his face melted off and a huge hole in torso, he even nearly collapsed at one point during the fight & Akainu could of easily killed him at that point instead of just staring at him. They're not in another league/tier than the admirals either.

Mihawk is admiral level by hype/plot.

Good reply, maybe you're right. I said Yonk level to make distinction, as both are separate titles

We need to see more of Kaido and Big Mom to have a final answer...

 

[Bogard]

That's what I stated in the OP, no yonko can beat an admiral less than high diff

Then i don't get the point of the topic. Like i've said he isn't a yonkou because to be one you have to possess a crew, allies and conquer new world territories. Even Whitebeard wouldn't have been considered a yonkou if he lacked a crew, allies and territories. A lone wolf like Mihawk can't be one and frankly speaking isn't even interested in becoming one

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Then i don't get the point of the topic. Like i've said he isn't a yonkou because to be one you have to possess a crew, allies and conquer new world territories. Even Whitebeard wouldn't have been considered a yonkou if he lacked a crew, allies and territories. A lone wolf like Mihawk can't be one and frankly speaking isn't even interested in becoming one

I can't argue too much because there are no feats from Yonko, but Mihawk being the same level as the yonko is something I disagree with. His hype is on the same level as the admirals. But admirals themselves are very close to yonko level

I'm talking about Hype, as people overhype Mihawk and say Mihawk can beat any admiral, which is false

 

[Loki d]

I can't argue too much because there are no feats from Yonko, but Mihawk being the same level as the yonko is something I disagree with. His hype is on the same level as the admirals. But admirals themselves are very close to yonko level

I'm talking about Hype, as people overhype Mihawk and say Mihawk can beat any admiral, which is false

Mihawk can defeat any admiral, my words are fact. It's written in stone that's why robin is afraid of him.

 

[A v i]

I can't argue too much because there are no feats from Yonko, but Mihawk being the same level as the yonko is something I disagree with. His hype is on the same level as the admirals. But admirals themselves are very close to yonko level

I'm talking about Hype, as people overhype Mihawk and say Mihawk can beat any admiral, which is false

He beats any admiral one on one and it is not false.