Might Guy vs Tsunade

[pateuvasiliu]

Tsunade's regen comes from a seal, not conscious chakra flow.

That's cool. Assume she can regenerate the bone. Her neck bones will still look like this.

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When bone is broken and regenerates it needs to be snapped back in place - hence why you go to the doctor to fix it and don't simply wait for it to heal - which Byakugou can't do. Byakugou will produce new cells but these cells are not smart enough to fix themselves properly.

Byakugou is natural regeneration amplified 1000 times. It will not make organs grow back properly if they were damaged.

I also doubt that he could snap her neck just like that. I mean, we've never seen someone's neck being snapped by a blow even if that person's much stronger than the other.

Tobi did it easily.

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[Sennin of Logic]

That's cool. Assume she can regenerate the bone. Her neck bones will still look like this.

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When bone is broken and regenerates it needs to be snapped back in place - hence why you go to the doctor to fix it and don't simply wait for it to heal - which Byakugou can't do. Byakugou will produce new cells but these cells are not smart enough to fix themselves properly.

Byakugou is natural regeneration amplified 1000 times. It will not make organs grow back properly if they were damaged.



Tobi did it easily.

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Point. However, they were unconscious/paralyzed. They couldn't resist at all. Wouldn't it be easy to snap anyone's neck if it was completely relaxed? Ultimately, we can't tell if regen can fix broken necks because we haven't seen her have one. So this debate could go on forever. Let's talk about speed as a factor before/if we continue this factor.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

No, this debate cannot go forever. You can't say such a thing as Tsunade can use jutsus with her neck snapped.

Get yourself a doctor, scientist or whatever. He will tell you the same things I will do now.

The neck sends signals from the spine to the brain which are converted into sensations. Sensations such as the ability to feel pain, heat, cold, the shape of surfaces, the ability to move your muscles and to breathe.

Break the neck, all of those stop.

Nothing.

Nada.

Blackness.

The second your neck is broken you fall unconscious, you can't move, you can't breathe. You can't use a jutsu. She may keep regenerate, sure, but the neck will not regenerate as it should. She will still have a broke neck. The spine-brain connection will not be reformed and she will be alive but unable to move or breathe.

After a few minutes she would die unless Katsuyu grows arms and snaps her neck back into place.

However, they were unconscious/paralyzed. They couldn't resist at all.

Tobi's strength is nowhere near Gai's, yet he stabbed the neck of an adult male. Tsunade is a female. Her neck is smaller and weaker ( BLAME ANATOMY NOT ME OKAY? ). Bones cannot be made harder ( unless you're Wolverine ). Her neck is as breakable as anyone else.

We know Tsunade lacks in the speed department. That's how she dies.

 

[Midday]

Can she regenerate from a bashed in skull from his nunchucks.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Can she regenerate from a bashed in skull from his nunchucks.

Theoretically, she can, but the skull will cave in and regeneration doesn't make bones '' cave out ''. She'd be still alive but unable to move, think, see.

When Byakugou ends, she would die.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No, this debate cannot go forever. You can't say such a thing as Tsunade can use jutsus with her neck snapped.

Get yourself a doctor, scientist or whatever. He will tell you the same things I will do now.

The neck sends signals from the spine to the brain which are converted into sensations. Sensations such as the ability to feel pain, heat, cold, the shape of surfaces, the ability to move your muscles and to breathe.

Break the neck, all of those stop.

Nothing.

Nada.

Blackness.

The second your neck is broken you fall unconscious, you can't move, you can't breathe. You can't use a jutsu. She may keep regenerate, sure, but the neck will not regenerate as it should. She will still have a broke neck. The spine-brain connection will not be reformed and she will be alive but unable to move or breathe.

After a few minutes she would die unless Katsuyu grows arms and snaps her neck back into place.

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Yes, she can put repair Tsunade's body. Unless of course, Katsuyu's just saying that because she's distressed. One of my points was that the connection of her neck could be healed as soon as it's severed. Like what Kabuto did with the ransengan. He not only recovered, he reduced damage.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kabuto was hit in muscles, not bones. He was hit by blunt force in a type of tissue that can take blunt damage. The bones of the neck are much less weaker.

As for Tsunade, she was cut in half. As long as Byakugou is on, that does not kill her, since the lower spine does not offer any vital function ( the lower spine does not send those impulses to the brain I listed ).

So yes, theoretically Byakugou can tank being cut in half ( from the middle, not vertically ), but once it ends Tsunade dies.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Kabuto was hit in muscles, not bones. He was hit by blunt force in a type of tissue that can take blunt damage. The bones of the neck are much less weaker.

As for Tsunade, she was cut in half. As long as Byakugou is on, that does not kill her, since the lower spine does not offer any vital function ( the lower spine does not send those impulses to the brain I listed ).

So yes, theoretically Byakugou can tank being cut in half ( from the middle, not vertically ), but once it ends Tsunade dies.

My personal opinion is that it would have enough effect to stop a broken neck and since our points can't be entirely proven or dis proven, this will be my last post on healing. She can block. Also, cells in your bones dissolve and create new bone layers. They control the shape of your bone when it becomes to big from being broken. This means that at her speed, the regen will form new bone and reshape it as necessary. This is how we recover from broken bone. When bones are broken, there must be some way that the broken pieces come back together. In Tsunade's case, whatever cell's responsible for this is enhanced to insane levels. The enhanced forming and shaping of bone could allow Tsunade's neck to reattach.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

This is how we recover from broken bone. When bones are broken, there must be some way that the broken pieces come back together.

Of course. That's why you get a cast.

So the bones can ''glue'' themselves and grow properly.

But Tsunade does not have that ability. If she was Kimimaro she could move her bones around, but she can't.

Now Kimimaro, that's a guy that could fight Gai's taijutsu properly.

 

[Joshutsu]

But Morning Peacock did.

What are you talking about, even after that kisame had enough strength to break out of the hold he was in and send off the scroll and he literally killed himself

 

[Joshutsu]

No, this debate cannot go forever. You can't say such a thing as Tsunade can use jutsus with her neck snapped.

Get yourself a doctor, scientist or whatever. He will tell you the same things I will do now.

The neck sends signals from the spine to the brain which are converted into sensations. Sensations such as the ability to feel pain, heat, cold, the shape of surfaces, the ability to move your muscles and to breathe.

Break the neck, all of those stop.

Nothing.

Nada.

Blackness.

The second your neck is broken you fall unconscious, you can't move, you can't breathe. You can't use a jutsu. She may keep regenerate, sure, but the neck will not regenerate as it should. She will still have a broke neck. The spine-brain connection will not be reformed and she will be alive but unable to move or breathe.

After a few minutes she would die unless Katsuyu grows arms and snaps her neck back into place.



Tobi's strength is nowhere near Gai's, yet he stabbed the neck of an adult male. Tsunade is a female. Her neck is smaller and weaker ( BLAME ANATOMY NOT ME OKAY? ). Bones cannot be made harder ( unless you're Wolverine ). Her neck is as breakable as anyone else.

We know Tsunade lacks in the speed department. That's how she dies.

Refer to sasuke getting his neck ripped out with his entire upper torso...still was concious. don't bring that to me stop being so technical, byakugou heals all

When i see gai breaking necks i will add it to his feats, until then he does basic non bone crushing damage

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Refer to sasuke getting his neck ripped out with his entire upper torso...still was concious. don't bring that to me stop being so technical, byakugou heals all

When i see gai breaking necks i will add it to his feats, until then he does basic non bone crushing damage

Sasuke didn't have his neck broken. He would have been dead.

bold = lol.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Of course. That's why you get a cast.

So the bones can ''glue'' themselves and grow properly.

But Tsunade does not have that ability. If she was Kimimaro she could move her bones around, but she can't.

Now Kimimaro, that's a guy that could fight Gai's taijutsu properly.

Bones are tissue. Tissue is a group of cells. It's within her power to regenerate them.

On to the cast. It doesn't force your bones together. That'd be excruciating. Which means that the healing part of it comes from your cells. My guess is that casts prevent you from moving that bone and disrupting the process. In Tsunade's case, it would happen to fast for that to happen.

One last thing. Tsunade got attacked and stabbed in multiple areas. Bones must have been broken. Yet we saw no sing of her pushing her bones into place.

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That scar looks like it was at the middle of her body. That probably means that her spine was impaled.

 

[Joshutsu]

Sasuke didn't have his neck broken. He would have been dead.

bold = lol.

There was no neck to be broken... lmao the whole area was a big hole if that doesn't cause anyone to black out Tsunades neck possibly being broken wouldnt. She has a tough body it takes alot :x she passed through that teleportation jutsu with the raikge that rips people to pieces and with the basic creation rebirth she lives it i'm positive that has more destructive power that gais taijutsu, targetting her at all points inclusing the neck ;o you do know what ripped to shreds implies. Right?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Close matchup, can't decide XD

 

[Omega]

People seriously underate Tsunade's durablity. Her jutsu allows her to regenerate there is no way guy will out last that since his best attack immediately causes damage to himself.

 

[elsepa]

People are looking at this with this mindset:

Tsunade : i am going to outlast him and then give him a full strenght punch.

Gai: I will punch her like an idiot . Weak points? Neck? No way , why would i do that?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

People are looking at this with this mindset:

Tsunade : i am going to outlast him and then give him a full strenght punch.

Gai: I will punch her like an idiot . Weak points? Neck? No way , why would i do that?

I go by the mindset of people are underestimating regen. And overestimating Guy's speed.

Guy: I'll blitz her and take her out.
Tsunade: Not if I do this! (punches the ground making it uneven and unstable, forcing Guy to move slow enough for her to punch him or travel fast and stumble, allowing her to smash him where he stands.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Gai can summon the turtle in the air and can simply jump off it if that is really an issue, but Gai's gated speed is tremendous.

 

[elsepa]

I go by the mindset of people are underestimating regen. And overestimating Guy's speed.

Guy: I'll blitz her and take her out.
Tsunade: Not if I do this! (punches the ground making it uneven and unstable, forcing Guy to move slow enough for her to punch him or travel fast and stumble, allowing her to smash him where he stands.

Don't even compare them in speed because he would dodge her with his eyes closed , he is more skilled than her in taijutsu , that is not going to happen.