[VS] Mifune Vs. Zabuza

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Zabuza very low difficulty. This is Zabuza's best match-up.

1.) Zabuza uses Hidden Mist technique
2.) Zabuza waits for Mifune to move
3.) Silent Killing

Mifune counters

1.) None
2.) None
3.) None
 

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The hell? I entered this thread thinking "Mifune wins sure, there's absolutely no question about that, but I feel bad for Zabuza, I think people are going to massively underrate Zabuza here because of the stomp I should support him and give him some credit in this thread." I guess I was dead wrong lol.
Zabuza very low difficulty. This is Zabuza's best match-up.

1.) Zabuza uses Hidden Mist technique
2.) Zabuza waits for Mifune to move
3.) Silent Killing
Ok really now. I think it's by far the opposite, and Mifune is practically the worst matchup Zabuza could ever ask for, unless we're talking about god tiers like Hashirama or something. Mifune stops anyone from making seals period, well what kind of a seal are we talking? With Mifune, we're talking making a couple seals for a basic fire jutsu or something like that. But no lol, when it comes to Zabuza it's way different, Zabuza is completely useless here.

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You say it's the worst matchup, this scan is why I think it's the opposite. Hidden mist would be cool... if Zabuza could pull it off. Too bad that would never ever ever happen vs Mifune. I don't think I have to explain it but look at how defenseless he is, that is a completely different kind of seal, it's not even a couple quick handseals for a basic jutsu that most ninja use that Mifune's jutsu is made for to stop easily. Zabuza can't even defend himself with his sword like Hanzo did, Hanzo was using a few quick hand signs too, and even he didn't get a chance against Mifune. This seal? This seal is just..awful.

I don't know how people could overlook that but yeah, Water dragons, hidden mist, clones, etc. Basically anything Zabuza does is easily counterable by Mifune, everything he can do is useless, Mifune is the PERFECT counter. Not only all that but, Mifune cut through steel easily on his own without chakra enhancing his blade. He's faster, stronger, and his sword is better. Even in terms of swordsmanship Zabuza would lose, that says something.

Zabuza is pretty screwed, especially considering Water Dragon takes what, like 40 seals for him to perform and he needed a water source back then? I laughed at this matchup! It seems like Mifune was the character crafted specifically to counter Zabuza's entire moveset perfectly. I was shocked when I opened the thread prepared to say "Hey man I know Zabuza loses, but come on give the guy some credit he's strong." and then the first posts were like Zabuza wins , or better yet "Zabuza very low difficulty, this is Zabuza's best match-up"
 

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The hell? I entered this thread thinking "Mifune wins sure, there's absolutely no question about that, but I feel bad for Zabuza, I think people are going to massively underrate Zabuza here because of the stomp I should support him and give him some credit in this thread." I guess I was dead wrong lol.

Ok really now. I think it's by far the opposite, and Mifune is practically the worst matchup Zabuza could ever ask for, unless we're talking about god tiers like Hashirama or something. Mifune stops anyone from making seals period, well what kind of a seal are we talking? With Mifune, we're talking making a couple seals for a basic fire jutsu or something like that. But no lol, when it comes to Zabuza it's way different, Zabuza is completely useless here.

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You say it's the worst matchup, this scan is why I think it's the opposite. Hidden mist would be cool... if Zabuza could pull it off. Too bad that would never ever ever happen vs Mifune. I don't think I have to explain it but look at how defenseless he is, that is a completely different kind of seal, it's not even a couple quick handseals for a basic jutsu that most ninja use that Mifune's jutsu is made for to stop easily. Zabuza can't even defend himself with his sword like Hanzo did, Hanzo was using a few quick hand signs too, and even he didn't get a chance against Mifune. This seal? This seal is just..awful.

I don't know how people could overlook that but yeah, Water dragons, hidden mist, clones, etc. Basically anything Zabuza does is easily counterable by Mifune, everything he can do is useless, Mifune is the PERFECT counter. Not only all that but, Mifune cut through steel easily on his own without chakra enhancing his blade. He's faster, stronger, and his sword is better. Even in terms of swordsmanship Zabuza would lose, that says something.

Zabuza is pretty screwed, especially considering Water Dragon takes what, like 40 seals for him to perform and he needed a water source back then? I laughed at this matchup! It seems like Mifune was the character crafted specifically to counter Zabuza's entire moveset perfectly. I was shocked when I opened the thread prepared to say "Hey man I know Zabuza loses, but come on give the guy some credit he's strong." and then the first posts were like Zabuza wins , or better yet "Zabuza very low difficulty, this is Zabuza's best match-up"

Basically this.
 

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The hell? I entered this thread thinking "Mifune wins sure, there's absolutely no question about that, but I feel bad for Zabuza, I think people are going to massively underrate Zabuza here because of the stomp I should support him and give him some credit in this thread." I guess I was dead wrong lol.

Ok really now. I think it's by far the opposite, and Mifune is practically the worst matchup Zabuza could ever ask for, unless we're talking about god tiers like Hashirama or something. Mifune stops anyone from making seals period, well what kind of a seal are we talking? With Mifune, we're talking making a couple seals for a basic fire jutsu or something like that. But no lol, when it comes to Zabuza it's way different, Zabuza is completely useless here.

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You say it's the worst matchup, this scan is why I think it's the opposite. Hidden mist would be cool... if Zabuza could pull it off. Too bad that would never ever ever happen vs Mifune. I don't think I have to explain it but look at how defenseless he is, that is a completely different kind of seal, it's not even a couple quick handseals for a basic jutsu that most ninja use that Mifune's jutsu is made for to stop easily. Zabuza can't even defend himself with his sword like Hanzo did, Hanzo was using a few quick hand signs too, and even he didn't get a chance against Mifune. This seal? This seal is just..awful.

I don't know how people could overlook that but yeah, Water dragons, hidden mist, clones, etc. Basically anything Zabuza does is easily counterable by Mifune, everything he can do is useless, Mifune is the PERFECT counter. Not only all that but, Mifune cut through steel easily on his own without chakra enhancing his blade. He's faster, stronger, and his sword is better. Even in terms of swordsmanship Zabuza would lose, that says something.

Zabuza is pretty screwed, especially considering Water Dragon takes what, like 40 seals for him to perform and he needed a water source back then? I laughed at this matchup! It seems like Mifune was the character crafted specifically to counter Zabuza's entire moveset perfectly. I was shocked when I opened the thread prepared to say "Hey man I know Zabuza loses, but come on give the guy some credit he's strong." and then the first posts were like Zabuza wins , or better yet "Zabuza very low difficulty, this is Zabuza's best match-up"

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As you can see here, Zabuza doesn't need to use that stance. He could just use only 1 hand to make only 1 seal and make a very thick mist instantly. Unlike other ninja, such as Hanzo, who need to use multiple hand seals to activate a jutsu, which is slower. Zabuza has a 4/5 for hand seals in the data book, which behind Itachi, is the second highest of the Akatsuki. So obviously Zabuza is really skilled with hand seals and it's evident he can perform one.

2. Mifune isn't stronger (physically) than Zabuza. Zabuza has a 4/5 for strength in the data book, which behind Kisame, is the second highest of the Akatsuki who are composed of S-rank level ninja. I'd like to see Mifune who's pretty old beat out the guy who could withstand a dozen swords impaled into his body in strength.

3. Mifune's sword isn't "better"... It's just a regular sword unlike Zabuza's Kubikiribocho which is 10x the size of Mifune's sword and has the special ability to rebuild itself.

4. Mifune may be faster, but with Zabuza's sword being so large, it can make Mifune stay at a distance and more than likely not allow him to land a lethal blow. Plus, as I said before, all Zabuza has to do is make 1 hand sign with 1 hand, obviously if Zabuza has the time to swing his sword he'll have time to make that seal and put up the mist. He even put up the mist infront of Might Guy who is even faster than Mifune. That being said, you think he can't put it up against Mifune?

5. If Zabuza and Mifune were to actually fight, you think they'd actually start out facing each other? Zabuza is the #1 assassin in the series to date and is the best at Silent Killing in history. With him being so stealthy and a genius at Silent Killing, before Mifune even arrived to his location, Zabuza would hear him and hide, when Mifune arrives, he would then see Mifune and put up the mist while hiding to get the edge. Then when the mist is up, it's all child's play for Zabuza.

You need to be more meticulous about this. It's obvious Zabuza wins. I say mid diff.
 
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Zabuza's sword can't be enhanced with chakra, though.. That should be considered.
And you're clearly biased towards zabuza..
 

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It depends where they start I guess. If it is 20+m away Zabuza takes this pretty easy. If it is closer, Mifune could win it. Zabuza is very skilled in kenjutsu or whatever it is called.
 

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It depends where they start I guess. If it is 20+m away Zabuza takes this pretty easy. If it is closer, Mifune could win it. Zabuza is very skilled in kenjutsu or whatever it is called.
What's your reasoning with the distance?
 

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What's your reasoning with the distance?

If they were 100m away, there is no way Mifune can stop Zabuza's hidden mist. If they were 10m away, Mifune could keep Zabuza on the defensive.
 

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He blows away mist with Samurai Sabre Technique
 

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I disagree. Maybe part of the mist, but not all of it.
 

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Zabuza's sword can't be enhanced with chakra, though.. That should be considered.
And you're clearly biased towards zabuza..

Idgaf if I'm biased with Zabuza. I clearly supported my arguments with scans and facts from the data book. Plus, I even complimented on Mifune's speed. So, you saying I'm being biased as if to counter my arguments is very ignorant.
 

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I disagree. Maybe part of the mist, but not all of it.
Well clearly not all of it. He isn't temari.

Idgaf if I'm biased with Zabuza. I clearly supported my arguments with scans and facts from the data book. Plus, I even complimented on Mifune's speed. So, you saying I'm being biased as if to counter my arguments is very ignorant.
It wasn't a counter. You provided a decent argument, but IMO mifune takes it.
 
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It wasn't a counter. You provided a decent argument, but IMO mifune takes it.

I see, well I think that Penguin2640 may be right. If you look at 5. in my argument, that's actually what the scenario would probably be. I'm not saying it's 100% Zabuza would win, but I think he'd win more times out of 10. Also, I think my "1 hand seal with 1 hand" should be taken more into consideration.
 

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You're giving Zabuza prep time then. -.- And people saying zabuza's sword is bigger and stonger and stuff is kind of negated by Samurai Sabre Technique
 

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Prep time? I am talking about starting distance. Not prep. Zabuza looses at 20m or under. Anything else he wins.
 

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I say Zabuza takes this. Primarily because of his hidden mist.
It takes him one hand seal to perform, and often takes a hand off of his sword when he swings. Which is the beauty of being able to perform handseals with one hand. Even when in combat he can activate this jutsu.
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After the jutsu is activated he can use water clones and silent killing.
 
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