Mifune vs 2nd mizukage

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2nd mizukage


As the Mizukage, he is undoubtedly an immensely powerful shinobi. He has identified himself as a Yin Release genjutsu user. This was witnessed in his ability to use the mist exuded by his summon, the Giant Clam, to create mirages that appear so real, that his opponents have great difficulty in finding his actual location. The fact that he was also able to kill Mū, another Kage — albeit at the cost of his own life — also stands as a testament to his skills.[1] Even when informing a considerable portion of the Fourth Division on how to defeat him, none of them were able to grasp the concept behind his techniques, allowing him to kill and injure a significant number of them with relative ease, suggesting that the Second Mizukage's combat capabilities are truly fearsome.[6]
Hōzuki Clan Techniques and Nature Transformation Edit

The Second using the Hydrification Technique.
As a member of the Hōzuki clan, the Mizukage can transform his body from a liquid state back into a solid form at will. He can also use his index fingers to fire bullets of water that were strong enough to easily pierce a sand clone.
The Second Mizukage also utilises a type of substance that Gaara stated to be more reminiscent of oil than water, as it was able to not only seep into his sand, but destroyed its construct. This was demonstrated when he was restrained by the Sealing Tag, this water caused the sand around the seal to adhere and then crumble, allowing him to escape.[7] It is later revealed that the water in the Second's body is a mixture of oil and water as well giving it its unique construct.

He can use the substance within his body to create a chibi like clone of himself with oil on the outside layer and water on the inside. As it moves around, the oil is heated up, causing the water to evaporate, increasing the clone's size until the built-up pressure of steam inside makes it explode. The water is blown high into the sky where it cools down and turns into hail, that cools down and resizes the clone, allowing the process to start all over. It is known as his infinite explosion ninjutsu (無限爆破忍術, mugen bakuha ninjutsu) for the simple reason that this is an never-ending process unless the clone's movement is somehow stopped and kept cool at the same time.

Summoning Technique Edit
The Mizukage is able to summon a Giant Clam to assist him in combat. By opening its shell and releasing a mist, which the Second can use to create mirages which effectively hide their actual location. The technique is so baffling that many able shinobi could not figure it out, despite him explaining it to them.[8]



Mifune




"The speed at which these techniques can be executed — the initial strike in particular — is such, that when performed by a skilled user, it can prevent enemy shinobi from forming hand seals (and thus ninjutsu), by exploiting the small opening that these movements create. This makes them highly effective against most shinobi and potentially, those of even Hanzō's calibre, if performed by one who has mastered the style, such as Mifune.[1]"

"Mifune is a masterful swordsman who wields the katana "Kurosawa" (黒澤, Kurosawa; Literally meaning "Black Swamp"). He is widely renowned as a master of Iai, a style of swordsmanship which involves the user rapidly unsheathing his blade to slash the enemies, and then re-sheathing it after completing the attack. Mifune's mastery of Iai is such that Hanzō and others have stated how it was useless to try and perform ninjutsu against him, due to the fact that Mifune is capable of attacking within the short time it takes to make hand seals.[1]"


With knowledge above supplied who wins in a fight between these two?


All info has been taken from naruto wiki
 

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Can't the Mizukage use hydration? That's a pretty good counter for kenjutsu itself. Plus there are still jutsu like his finger pistol thing that doesn't actually require hand seals to execute.
 

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If he can't summon his clam, how can he use his genjutsu? Summoning is a ninjtusu. Think about it :D
Yeah I figured this too, but what's the starting distance assuming it matters? Mizukage has a water body so it's a near perfect counter for any physical attack, and the Mizukage only really has to place his hand to summon the clam. It should be fairly simple from this point.
 

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Yeah I figured this too, but what's the starting distance assuming it matters? Mizukage has a water body so it's a near perfect counter for any physical attack, and the Mizukage only really has to place his hand to summon the clam. It should be fairly simple from this point.
You have to do some kind of contract thing don't you? Didn't think of a starting distance I just assumed they'd be about 15-20 ft from each other lol. The hand water gun thing will be a problem, but I think Mifunes sword is swift enough. The liquid body thing will also be a problem it's all a matter of how long before he dehydrated himself. This is why I chose this particular fight because each one can exploit the others strength as a weakness you know?
 

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You have to do some kind of contract thing don't you? Didn't think of a starting distance I just assumed they'd be about 15-20 ft from each other lol. The hand water gun thing will be a problem, but I think Mifunes sword is swift enough. The liquid body thing will also be a problem it's all a matter of how long before he dehydrated himself. This is why I chose this particular fight because each one can exploit the others strength as a weakness you know?
To be fair some forums won't even take part in threads where distance/location/knowledge/mindset isn't specificed xD

I dunno if the Mizukage's body is water or oil either though I don't know if it matters much
 

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You have to do some kind of contract thing don't you? Didn't think of a starting distance I just assumed they'd be about 15-20 ft from each other lol. The hand water gun thing will be a problem, but I think Mifunes sword is swift enough. The liquid body thing will also be a problem it's all a matter of how long before he dehydrated himself. This is why I chose this particular fight because each one can exploit the others strength as a weakness you know?
Yeah I get you. I don't think it really matters and yuou don't need it but yeah I figured it was about that distance lol. Well I personally see it going Nidaime Mizukage liquidizes and tanks the initial attack and is able to summon the clam, then takes it from there w/ Joki Boi and Mifune's lackibility to find the clam.

I made a new word. Lackibility. I like it.
 

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Yeah I get you. I don't think it really matters and yuou don't need it but yeah I figured it was about that distance lol. Well I personally see it going Nidaime Mizukage liquidizes and tanks the initial attack and is able to summon the clam, then takes it from there w/ Joki Boi and Mifune's lackibility to find the clam.

I made a new word. Lackibility. I like it.
I like it too, BUT! While that is possible he would have to get away from Mifune first who I'm assuming is a lot faster. Mizukage does have the edge though I agree
 

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Ehh really? I respect Mifune but against the 2nd Mizukage? He can't hurt him because the Mizukage can turn to water/oil. He probably gets shot after his first slash. If not it only takes a second to summon the clam and then Mifune is done for real. The 2nd Mizukage is on a level that just isn't comparable to only kenjutsu users, and then there's his techs which are a perfect counter.
 

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only his hozuki techniques are enough to kill Mifune. there's no need for his clam. but btw no one said he can't use genjutsu without that clam.
 

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only his hozuki techniques are enough to kill Mifune. there's no need for his clam. but btw no one said he can't use genjutsu without that clam.
Even if he can use genjutsu without the clam, the clam seems to be an important part of the tech in its entirety. Without the mist he's easily seen.

Originally Posted by ElectricClover
Ehh really? I respect Mifune but against the 2nd Mizukage? He can't hurt him because the Mizukage can turn to water/oil. He probably gets shot after his first slash. If not it only takes a second to summon the clam and then Mifune is done for real. The 2nd Mizukage is on a level that just isn't comparable to only kenjutsu users, and then there's his techs which are a perfect counter.
Mifune isn't any kenjutsu user.
He was strong enough to face Hanzo and live to tell about it. The only other ninja who were able to do so have been the sannin and nagato, konan, and yahiko I do believe. To put him in this group means he's a pretty strong opponent.
 
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Mifune can enhance the blade with chakra .. Therefore it wouldnt make the Mizukages hydration as fluent .
And the Mizukage hasnt shown much of any taijutsu or kenjutsu considering most users like him arent cut out for hand to hand combat
 

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Even if he can use genjutsu without the clam, the clam seems to be an important part of the tech in its entirety. Without the mist he's easily seen.



He was strong enough to face Hanzo and live to tell about it. The only other ninja who were able to do so have been the sannin and nagato, konan, and yahiko I do believe. To put him in this group means he's a pretty strong opponent.
Agree that he probably can't use effective genjutsu without the clam, but he probably doesn't need it.

Well, Hanzo technically let him live. He gave him the antidote. I wasn't trying to say Mifune is on a low level being a kenjutsu only user, just that he'd be below the OP previous Kages.
 
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