Michael Tellinger

[YowYan]

If anyone can be bothered with watching the video from 4:40 until 10:00.. (just 5 minutes)

I'd love to hear others' thoughts and input on M. Tellinger's interpretation of the roots and core purpose of the monetary system

[video=youtube;yHu1x0k8T-0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHu1x0k8T-0[/video]

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

The same bloodlines, really?!

Wait, so does he basically want a version of communism, because that doesn't work either.

 

[YowYan]

The same bloodlines, really?!

Wait, so does he basically want a version of communism, because that doesn't work either.

communism?..please do bother to actually listen. I call it a resource-based economy where voluntarism is up front. But that part is explained 5 to 10 minutes further in the interview

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

communism?..please do bother to actually listen. I call it a resource-based economy where voluntarism is up front. But that part is explained 5 to 10 minutes further in the interview

I did listen. Isn't working for the sake of working the main point of communism?

 

[Joon]

I agree. Money is the root of all evil.

 

[YowYan]

I agree. Money is the root of all evil.

That's not what he says. It's a tool of enslavement, is what he said

I did listen. Isn't working for the sake of working the main point of communism?

In short: People in small Ubuntu communities willingly contribute a few hours a week to do things like carpenting, food gardening, etc anything that contributes to the small community, triggering a domino effect and a self-sustainable society. It's thoroughly explained right after the first 10 minutes.

 

[Power Bottom]

I watched the whole video lol.

I agree with him. Money is a form of slavery. People are enslaved to having to pay bills or so called debts today. And what he was saying about how the current bankers today have the same blood line to people in history isn't surprising. All the U.S presidents have the same bloodline one way or another. So the concept of the rich getting richer and ruling the world is obvious. Money isn't the only form of slavery today. But I won't get into that.

 

[YowYan]

I watched the whole video lol.

I agree with him. Money is a form of slavery. People are enslaved to having to pay bills or so called debts today. And what he was saying about how the current bankers today have the same blood line to people in history isn't surprising. All the U.S presidents have the same bloodline one way or another. So the concept of the rich getting richer and ruling the world is obvious. Money isn't the only form of slavery today. But I won't get into that.

The best thing is; He isn't all talk. He actually applies all he stands for in his everyday life. He's running for president in South Africa and tries to dissolve the government and the centralised bank.

[video=youtube;AXUtV3z6FVc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=42&v=AXUtV3z6FVc[/video]

start from 1:40

 

[Punk Hazard]

Only needed to go in about two minutes to absolutely agree. I was thinking of writing an essay about this a few months ago. We're all slaves to money. ¨You wanna travel? Nope, don't have enough money.¨ ¨You want clothes? Better have that money.¨ ¨You want your basic human right to survive? Would you like a receipt for that?¨ Money has been, can, and is, used to control and limit. We could be traveling across 196 countries, instead we're confined to one area for most our adult lives because we can't afford to. The need for money to survive has limited us in so many ways. Students go to school studying shit they have no passion for for so much of their youth, to spend their adult life working jobs they probably hate, so they can pay bills and then die. It's kind of sad whenever I hear about friends of mine who want to go to school and study something, and I know it's not the thing they have passion for like an art, but it's something they're doing so they can make money. That's no way to live.

I personally believe capitalism is just a modern-day slavery, an economic holocaust.

 

[Power Bottom]

The best thing is; He isn't all talk. He actually applies all he stands for in his everyday life. He's running for president in South Africa and tries to dissolve the government and the centralised bank.

[video=youtube;AXUtV3z6FVc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=42&v=AXUtV3z6FVc[/video]

start from 1:40

He could never become president with those philosophies

1.) His whole ideology goes against everything this world teaches you. If the average person hears that he wants to dissolve the government and the centralised bank. They will think this

A. This country will be in anarchy
B. All my money in the banks will be lost. All the money I worked for will be gone.

People won't change due to extensive brainwashing their whole life.


2. It has been 15/16 years since the apartheid I doubt there will be a white president any time soon. South Africa's colored citzens which are the majority black and are the majority in SA have been oppresed for years. I higly doubt they would elect him president for that very fact.

 

[YowYan]

He could never become president with those philosophies

1.) His whole ideology goes against everything this world teaches you. If the average person hears that he wants to dissolve the government and the centralised bank. They will think this

A. This country will be in anarchy
B. All my money in the banks will be lost. All the money I worked for will be gone.

People won't change due to extensive brainwashing their whole life.


2. It has been 15/16 years since the apartheid I doubt there will be a white president any time soon. South Africa's colored citzens which are the majority black and are the majority in SA. SA has been under the apartheid 1948 - 1994. I highly doubt they would elect him president for that very fact.

That is very true. Especially the last point you made.
I think he won't succeed with his political campaign. If he would; Ron Paul would've.
On his Ubuntu movement however; If he succeeds to wake small communities of South Africans up and successfully gets a fair number of people to experiment with these self-sustainable projects, things might trigger that domino effect I mentioned

 

[Joon]

That's not what he says. It's a tool of enslavement, is what he said




In short: People in small Ubuntu communities willingly contribute a few hours a week to do things like carpenting, food gardening, etc anything that contributes to the small community, triggering a domino effect and a self-sustainable society. It's thoroughly explained right after the first 10 minutes.

Metaphorically speaking, he is.

He is saying to get rid of the monetary system and find a better solution. He is asking for is more like providing a service and exchange as a favor.

 

[Power Bottom]

That is very true. Especially the last point you made.
I think he won't succeed with his political campaign. If he would; Ron Paul would've.
On his Ubuntu movement however; If he succeeds to wake small communities of South Africans up and successfully gets a fair number of people to experiment with these self-sustainable projects, things might trigger that domino effect I mentioned

Yes exactly. You can't change the world with an idea. You need an idea and people to follow and recognize it. People need to start waking up from their programming and open their eyes to the blatant truth about this corrupt world.

 

[YowYan]

Metaphorically speaking, he is.

He is saying to get rid of the monetary system and find a better solution. He is asking for is more like providing a service and exchange as a favor.

I was replying to your statement of money being the root of all evil. Isn't that basically saying that someone who killed a person with a knife holds an evil tool? It's just a tool. The mind(s) behind using that knife is evil/indifferent.

As for the latter; Yeah, he calls it contributionism. Every member of that small society contributes willingly in exchange for electricity. So, you do something of your choice for a few hours a week and you don't pay for your electricity. (that was one idea he was going to experiment with if his political campaign went uphill.

Yes exactly. You can't change the world with an idea. You need an idea and people to follow and recognize it. People need to start waking up from their programming and open their eyes to the blatant truth about this corrupt world.

Reminds me of Jacque Fresco and the Venus project

 

[Funky Tiger]

lets get rid of all money ever and get rid of all the capitalist countries and the world will be a better place to live in xD