[Discussion] MF Garp Vs TS M3

[A v i]

Imo Doflamingo is the bridge between upper high tiers and top tiers. He is above vice-admiral level while being weaker than admiral level, capable to give an admiral level fighter a mid difficulty fight before losing. Luffy will defeat Doflamingo, maybe with plot help or not, but he'll at least prove that he can defeat a plot restricted Doflamingo, which would put him in the range of at the very least pushing a healthy Doflamingo to high difficulty and thus i see a serious Luffy capable to push an admiral in the range between higher end of low difficulty and mid end of medium difficulty.

Zoro shouldn't be much weaker than Luffy at this point, so i think he can push an admiral to the higher end of low difficulty especially when on the contrary of Luffy, he is more serious in fights. Sanji should probably push an admiral between the lower end of low difficulty and the medium range of low difficulty. Combining their powers, i see them giving an admiral a difficulty ranging between higher end of medium difficulty fight and mid end of high difficulty, especially when you know that when they attack together, they are stronger. I also consider MF Garp to be slightly weaker than an admiral, especially in the long run and because of this, the difficulty in my opinion will be between medium end of high difficulty and above the high difficulty range

Given how easily Law was defeated by Joker, I can't see Luffy pushing Joker to high dif. Also,Joker literally low diffed Sanji which is something Luffy can't pull at his current level. I mean if he's capable of pushing Joker to high dif then he should be able to beat Sanji at the lower or middle end of mid dif but I don't think he can do that so no,m3 is not beating an admiral level fighter on their own(without plot armor).


Also,from what we have seen from manga, Garp is slightly weaker than WB and Roger & we already know what WB at his worst condition did to AKainu. Garp was perfectly healthy and was active unlike Rayleigh as some people above me pointed out. So, it is safe to assume that MF Garp was stronger than admirals.

 

[shon93]

Garp Wins No Diff

Is this some sick joke. You guys are comparing a seasoned veteran to some kids who got into the NW just a little while ago. Dont forget Garp hit Marco once and did what no one could do on MF he hurt a phoenix. Garp would destroy them people putting the M3 were they are not. If Sanji broke his foot on Vergo his foot would break before it even makes contact aginst Garp

 

[OG sama]

Given how easily Law was defeated by Joker, I can't see Luffy pushing Joker to high dif. Also,Joker literally low diffed Sanji which is something Luffy can't pull at his current level. I mean if he's capable of pushing Joker to high dif then he should be able to beat Sanji at the lower or middle end of mid dif but I don't think he can do that so no,m3 is not beating an admiral level fighter on their own(without plot armor).


Also,from what we have seen from manga, Garp is slightly weaker than WB and Roger & we already know what WB at his worst condition did to AKainu. Garp was perfectly healthy and was active unlike Rayleigh as some people above me pointed out. So, it is safe to assume that MF Garp was stronger than admirals.

Unless Luffy's hiding something very powerful that we haven't seen yet. This is what makes me wonder if Law is still going to help out or not. Oda seems to be building this stuff up with Bellamy to give Luffy a real reason to whoop his ass.

 

[David1996]

Garp mid-diff.

 

[Yonko]

garp low diff

 

[Anduril]

Garp would win at Mid/High diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Garp loses Luffy alone would push Garp extreme high difficulty...

A yound Garp tried pretty hard to flatten Chinjao's head it's very spectical if current Garp could replicate this feat. Adding Zoro and Sanji means Garp loses. ​

 

[IPulseZz]

This is a troll thread lmao some of these responses cannot be real

A man who rivalled Roger can't beat 3 kids or it would be a high diff match lmao. So how would Rayleigh vs monster trio go then?

 

[MickNerks]

Garp beats the M3 with Mid dif.

They have a long way to go before they are admiral level. And lets not forget ladies and gentlemen that Garp is definitely ADMIRAL LEVEL, if not higher.

 

[Bogard]

Given how easily Law was defeated by Joker, I can't see Luffy pushing Joker to high dif. Also,Joker literally low diffed Sanji which is something Luffy can't pull at his current level. I mean if he's capable of pushing Joker to high dif then he should be able to beat Sanji at the lower or middle end of mid dif but I don't think he can do that so no,m3 is not beating an admiral level fighter on their own(without plot armor).


Also,from what we have seen from manga, Garp is slightly weaker than WB and Roger & we already know what WB at his worst condition did to AKainu. Garp was perfectly healthy and was active unlike Rayleigh as some people above me pointed out. So, it is safe to assume that MF Garp was stronger than admirals.

Law wasn't at full power when he was defeated by Doffy. I think Doffy can defeat full power Law after a mid difficulty fight. I also think Luffy will prove his superiority over Law during this fight, enough to show he can push healthy Doffy to high difficulty. I also actually do think bloodlusted current Luffy can mid diff Sanji. I mean pretimeskip already i'm not certain Sanji could push him(while bloodlusted) to more than mid difficulty(or lower end of high difficulty) and he got great haki mastery through Rayleigh training to boot. The only important thing Sanji learned is his flying ability(sky walk), but in battle it matters not that much. Even his fire ability can be replicated by some of Luffy's moves(like red hawk), so really a current Luffy mid diffing current Sanji doesn't seem unlikely to me

WB said Garp is an old man compared to his former self. Chinjao said pretty much the same, weaker than the period where he was called a monster. Himself mentioned once that his strength really decreased compared to his prime, so no MF Garp while being more active than Rayleigh is still weaker than in his prime and while i do think he can still compete with admirals, i think he'd lose in the long run stamina-wise

 

[TheHokage]

Garp wins, M3 push him to a mid difficulty fight at best.