Messi is a fraud.

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The problems with Argentina is horrible defense, miserable goalie and the fact that the whole team revolves around Messi putting too much expectation on him.
So if he breaks under pressure the whole team goes to shit.
 
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Aguero is best attacker in English premier league for many years already. Higuain is best attacker in Italian seria A for couple last years. Dybala , Mascherano ,Di Maria all of them all world class players.You can't say his teammates are garbage they are top class.

Its true that about Xavi , Iniesta , Villa but Messi is still amazing player the best of this generation. But sayin best in all time is insult to Pele who has won with Santos literally everything he could 2 x copa libertadores and world cup for clubs x 2 with many other titles.

He also won 3 world cups with Brazil and scored 1280+ goals in his career , Messi or Rinaldo will never score this amount thats certain and they will never win 3 world cups.

Pele wasn't just goal scoring machine like Ronaldo. Gerald Muller was amazing striker and yet no one considers him best of all time , why ???

Because like Ronaldo he was just good at scoring goals and thats it. Pele is best player of all time because he was amazing dribbler and great at passing the ball just like Messi.Dribbling skills and passing skills are what puts Messi above Ronaldo. Yet Pele had all 3 , goal scoring ability , dribbling and passing skills and he has won everything on club and national level unlike Messi and Ronaldo.
 
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Aguero is best attacker in English premier league for many years already. Higuain is best attacker in Italian seria A for couple last years. Dybala , Mascherano ,Di Maria all of them all world class players.You can't say his teammates are garbage they are top class.

Its true that about Xavi , Iniesta , Villa but Messi is still amazing player the best of this generation. But sayin best in all time is insult to Pele who has won with Santos literally everything he could 2 x copa libertadores and world cup for clubs x 2 with many other titles.

He also won 3 world cups with Brazil and scored 1280+ goals in his career , Messi or Rinaldo will never score this amount thats certain and they will never win 3 world cups.

Pele wasn't just goal scoring machine like Ronaldo. Gerald Muller was amazing striker and yet no one considers him best of all time , why ???

Because like Ronaldo he was just good at scoring goals and thats it. Pele is best player of all time because he was amazing dribbler and great at passing the ball just like Messi.Dribbling skills and passing skills are what puts Messi above Ronaldo. Yet Pele had all 3 , goal scoring ability , dribbling and passing skills and he has won everything on club and national level unlike Messi and Ronaldo.
And I missed Pele. RIP
 

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Aguero is best attacker in English premier league for many years already. Higuain is best attacker in Italian seria A for couple last years. Dybala , Mascherano ,Di Maria all of them all world class players.You can't say his teammates are garbage they are top class.

Its true that about Xavi , Iniesta , Villa but Messi is still amazing player the best of this generation. But sayin best in all time is insult to Pele who has won with Santos literally everything he could 2 x copa libertadores and world cup for clubs x 2 with many other titles.

He also won 3 world cups with Brazil and scored 1280+ goals in his career , Messi or Rinaldo will never score this amount thats certain and they will never win 3 world cups.

Pele wasn't just goal scoring machine like Ronaldo. Gerald Muller was amazing striker and yet no one considers him best of all time , why ???

Because like Ronaldo he was just good at scoring goals and thats it. Pele is best player of all time because he was amazing dribbler and great at passing the ball just like Messi.Dribbling skills and passing skills are what puts Messi above Ronaldo. Yet Pele had all 3 , goal scoring ability , dribbling and passing skills and he has won everything on club and national level unlike Messi and Ronaldo.
It's different with national sides if they can't play together it's over. There were plenty of star studded national sides in history that just couldn't deliver. Englands "golden generation" for example.

I can't say much about Pele, only from the footage that I have seen, he was a great player for sure but that was different times, football was different. We don't kow how he would perform in the modern game.


Do you mean skill wise? Because ronaldo is. He carried his team now for two games whereas Messi didn't do shit so far. Instead he lost his composure and played even worse.
"Carried", he was lucky against spain. De gea would normally save shots like that and that penalty was a gift aswell. That crucial freekick was world class tho.
 
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Yea mention Pélé who scored half his goals against amateur café clubs.. In a time where defenders were absolute sh!t and where the competition was non existent
 

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Yea mention Pélé who scored half his goals against amateur café clubs.. In a time where defenders were absolute sh!t and where the competition was non existent
please that is no excuse pele managed to reach a level that Ronaldo and Messi failed to reach.. and now Ronaldo is also now going way ahead of MEssi
 

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Yea mention Pélé who scored half his goals against amateur café clubs.. In a time where defenders were absolute sh!t and where the competition was non existent
Why makes you upset more kid fact that Lessi won't break Pele record at goal scoring or fact that Lessi has never won World cup while Pele did it 3 times which is world record no other player accomplished.
 
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