Mei vs Tobirama

[TheEvilOne]

Just saying, Tobirama can use the Explosion Talisman jutsu without Edos. Bunshin's will suffice.

But you have no evidence, right?

 

[Penguin]

But you have no evidence, right?

Has Mei used a Katon yet? :|

We all know she can, but since she has not shown it, we must say she does not have Katon.

Has Mei used Fuuton yet?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Has Mei used a Katon yet? :|

We all know she can, but since she has not shown it, we must say she does not have Katon.

Has Mei used Fuuton yet?

Mei can't use fuuton :| She has Katon, Doton and Suiton.

 

[Joshutsu]

I think people think Tobirama can win. I mean he can use his explosions to get rid of the mist itself if i am correct.

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I don't think he would have to directly use the explosive jutsu he has on her. He can use it to clear the cloud of mist. That is just something to throw out there.

 

[Penguin]

Mei can't use fuuton :| She has Katon, Doton and Suiton.

Mei does not have Katon? Please show me her using a Katon or Doton? Or can we all use common sense?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Mei does not have Katon? Please show me her using a Katon or Doton? Or can we all use common sense?

That's not the same because Tobirama's explosion jutsu isn't a kekkei genkaii.

 

[shelke]

How is Tobirama wining against Mei? Mei's acid mist means he cannot tag her, as he has to get close. Her mist attack blinds him, followed by Lava KG. That would raise the temperature as well, making it more difficult for Tobirama's measly suiton attacks. From what we have seen, Tobirama's suiton is laughable before Mei's.

Mid Difference at most. Nothing higher.

 

[Penguin]

That's not the same because Tobirama's explosion jutsu isn't a kekkei genkaii.

No. It requires one explosion tag to be placed on the opponent, and then making a seal and exerting chakra, Tobirama summons thousands of paper tags. Of course a Bunshin can do it. :|

Apparently, you need feats to show you can use something.

 

[TheEvilOne]

No. It requires one explosion tag to be placed on the opponent, and then making a seal and exerting chakra, Tobirama summons thousands of paper tags. Of course a Bunshin can do it. :|

Apparently, you need feats to show you can use something.

Hope you know this is like saying Hiruzen can use the medical ninjutsu, clan techniques, Kekkei genkais because it was stated he knows every ninjutsu in the leaf :|

 

[ReverseZero12]

Dunno. Based on what I've seen from tobirama. He is probably about minato's level which puts him above mei easily.

 

[Joshutsu]

Dunno. Based on what I've seen from tobirama. He is probably about minato's level which puts him above mei easily.

I think you can be stronger than someone easily but just is in a bad matchup.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Dunno. Based on what I've seen from tobirama. He is probably about minato's level which puts him above mei easily.

Tobirama's FTG is not on Minato's level.

 

[Penguin]

Hope you know this is like saying Hiruzen can use the medical ninjutsu, clan techniques, Kekkei genkais because it was stated he knows every ninjutsu in the leaf :|

No it isn't. That is a very bad connection.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I don't want to go into detail, but Tobirama wins mid diff.

As an Edo, he used Suiton techs with one hand seal and without a water source. His Suiton will get way bigger as a full powered Edo. Look at Hashirama's Mokuton from Part 1 -> Part 2.

Chakra sensing counters mist, and Tobirama FTG's away once he senses PH levels in the mist.

Tobirama is better at Tai, Speed, Intelligence, Chakra levels, and Kenjutsu.

But if you want a debate, I am all for it.

Mei used 2 suiton with 2 hand seals and no water source without being an edo. Both on the level of MA Dara's katons. Makes tobiramas fountain look like shit.

Shadow clones are easily countered by boil release and that water cutting garbage is dodged, blocked with lava or overpowered with her own suiton.

Ftg and kenjutsu is useless when you can never come near your opponent without soloing yourself.

This is a long ranged battle and the better jutsu user wins. Mei is the better user.

 

[ReverseZero12]

Tobirama's FTG is not on Minato's level.

Minato's is more versatile. But regardless, that fact alone doesn't automatically put minato above tobirama. Kamui was stated to be a better technique than FTG yet minato was able to defeat a 14 year old tobi.

But obviously, if you go by general feats, minato is stronger.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Minato's is only more versatile. That doesn't automatically put minato above tobirama unless we talk about feats solely in which obviously minato is stronger.

Mina to has kunai. Tobi Rama doesn't. His ftg is useless because he needs to touch people manually.

Placing ftg on non-chakra holding entities and special paper doesn't exist.

 

[Nattana]

Has Mei used a Katon yet? :|

We all know she can, but since she has not shown it, we must say she does not have Katon.

Has Mei used Fuuton yet?

She hasn't used pure Katon yet but we all know she can use it. But have you seen anyone bring up some amazing Katon as Mei feats? No.
So that's why you shouldn't assume that Tobirama can use Explosive Talisman without Edo. We haven't seen him do that.

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Mei wins mid-high diff.

 

[ReverseZero12]

Mina to has kunai. Tobi Rama doesn't. His ftg is useless because he needs to touch people manually.

Placing ftg on non-chakra holding entities and special paper doesn't exist.

Yeah but minato's FTG is only better in the sense that it's more versatile since he has kunai's. But the kunai's are simply an extension. Tobirama has shown that he's at least as proficient as minato as far as FTG goes.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Why are people arguing about shadow clones using Infinite Exploding tags...? Tobirama literally called it an Edo Tensei Technique...

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Yeah but minato's FTG is only better in the sense that it's more versatile since he has kunai's. But the kunai's are simply an extension. Tobirama has shown that he's at least as proficient as minato as far as FTG goes.

Alright i think i get what you're saying.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Just because I was gone doesn't mean that this should be allowed.

For someone of Mei's speed, Tobirama's clone's off-screen feat of beating KCM Minato in a speed contest to save Naruto/Sasuke should be more than enough for this.