[VS] Mei, Gaara and Tsunade vs Ay and Onoki

[TheEvilOne]

No actually after reading the first page comments, I thought it was already obvious that all characters are in their prime.

You didn't stated it earlier = they are in their current form.

 

[NewKageism]

Seem like common sense is not so common on Naruto base let alone logic. You put three people together one who flies on sand he ,who is, their best chance of winning against real battle prone people.

We seen Mei mostly fight in groups never on a 1vs1 game. Main body Zestu one of the weakest was ready to fight her then the alliance came help her. Have we seen many if any attacks without her using her mouth? Simply watch her mouth.

Two of the fighters do not even do close range or seen at all fighting at all close range which are Gaara only time once when he made the sand staff for blocking. He can not fight close range he knows this too thus he folds his arms all the time thinking he will keep the distance.
Mei have we seen her? However, we can say the same about Onoki...

Now people say Tsunade would handle ay? Really how? It was shown how a sloppy fighter she was. People who always rely on rebirth, non death, fast healing get sloppy with combat because they feel they have another chance at living.

Example shown Danzo.... I mean before he got them eyes you think he was like I am going to let himself get hit with an attack of Sasuke?
Or Hidan before knowing how to do the ritual he was going to just get hit you think he carried around the weapon just for show or getting pissed when his head was cut off no he wanted to win and live ? No most people if not all human existent is to survive not to die.

So back to Tsunade when fighting Kabuto she was sloppy (yes she had a phobia) , when fighting Madara she was sloppy , Ay even told her she was sloppy, when she fights she fights sloppy kicking more in most battle and slow. (for common sense people when we see Tsunade fight she kicks mostly and throw slow punches) she punches the ground and break stuff when she misses. If you do not consider this a sloppy attack then what is? Most battle we seen with her she walks with injuries while the other person suffers none or minor. If this was a real fight the person less injured wins. Getting sliced in half or limbs taken off is a sloppy warrior. (yes people can say Ay arm is off but he had a real fight Sasuke close and long combat person)

Now look at the time all these kages been in office.

Gaara fresh, Mei fresh, Tsuanade sorta fresh.

Onoki long time in office.
Ay long time in office.

Oh some people say Tsuanade been a sannin but compared to the other sannin in fight how many times did you see J-man just get sliced in half like this or Oro? Both of them can do close to long range combat but Tsuanade where is her long range?

Oro was beating her up with his feet and tongue... enough said

 

[TheEvilOne]

Oro was beating her up with his feet and tongue... enough said

Can you give me a scan? Because as I remember he couldn't even touch her after she defeated her fear of blood.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Huh, so after reading Agoodboy's counter you changed the OP.

Don't bother with him, he's the biggest Ay fanboy. Don't forget the Magic 'Kirin GG' from that kakuzu vs mei and sasuke

AgoodBoy It will take me a long time to post my counter to that.. Try shortening your posts a bit xd But yeah ill try to post my counter later on.

Lmao, I try but i have alot to say. I have knowledge to share, i try to clear up any counters instantly. :'(

Nope, it's a general rule for all match-ups, normally I shouldn't even have to specify it but since you're defending team 1 you decided to make the match unfair. If Ay has only 1 arm then it's early shippuden Gaara.

1 or 2 arms doesn't change the outcome. Ay only attacks with 1 arm at a time.

Seem like common sense is not so common on Naruto base let alone logic. You put three people together one who flies on sand he ,who is, their best chance of winning against real battle prone people.

We seen Mei mostly fight in groups never on a 1vs1 game. Main body Zestu one of the weakest was ready to fight her then the alliance came help her. Have we seen many if any attacks without her using her mouth? Simply watch her mouth.

Two of the fighters do not even do close range or seen at all fighting at all close range which are Gaara only time once when he made the sand staff for blocking. He can not fight close range he knows this too thus he folds his arms all the time thinking he will keep the distance.
Mei have we seen her? However, we can say the same about Onoki...

Now people say Tsunade would handle ay? Really how? It was shown how a sloppy fighter she was. People who always rely on rebirth, non death, fast healing get sloppy with combat because they feel they have another chance at living.

Example shown Danzo.... I mean before he got them eyes you think he was like I am going to let himself get hit with an attack of Sasuke?
Or Hidan before knowing how to do the ritual he was going to just get hit you think he carried around the weapon just for show or getting pissed when his head was cut off no he wanted to win and live ? No most people if not all human existent is to survive not to die.

So back to Tsunade when fighting Kabuto she was sloppy (yes she had a phobia) , when fighting Madara she was sloppy , Ay even told her she was sloppy, when she fights she fights sloppy kicking more in most battle and slow. (for common sense people when we see Tsunade fight she kicks mostly and throw slow punches) she punches the ground and break stuff when she misses. If you do not consider this a sloppy attack then what is? Most battle we seen with her she walks with injuries while the other person suffers none or minor. If this was a real fight the person less injured wins. Getting sliced in half or limbs taken off is a sloppy warrior. (yes people can say Ay arm is off but he had a real fight Sasuke close and long combat person)

Now look at the time all these kages been in office.

Gaara fresh, Mei fresh, Tsuanade sorta fresh.

Onoki long time in office.
Ay long time in office.

Oh some people say Tsuanade been a sannin but compared to the other sannin in fight how many times did you see J-man just get sliced in half like this or Oro? Both of them can do close to long range combat but Tsuanade where is her long range?

Oro was beating her up with his feet and tongue... enough said

stupid post bruh. Learn tsunade's role before posting shit. Her role is to heal team mates, give them chakra, and boost their attacks. The only time she actually fights is if it is absolutely necessary (busting madara's susano'o).

Gaara is the most seasoned person here. He killed Jounins and assassins from the time he was a kid. Killing and strategy is nothing new to him, the fact you try to bring this bull is just sad AF.

You even try to bring up fighting in teams. Raikage's LITTERALLY always duo. Ay literally got a partner from day one to double lariat with. Ay is the most team oriented fighter in this entire battle.

Mei? You actually try to disrespect mei? Ay lost his arm and almost his leg to sasuke. Mei almost killed him.

oonoki is an old fart with a weak back. his analysis and planning isn't even better than gaara considering gaara was the one doing all the analysation during all the fights.

Don't bother resposting biased nonsense in this thread.

 

[NewKageism]

Can you give me a scan? Because as I remember he couldn't even touch her after she defeated her fear of blood.

I am tired of weak logic pumping a lady that pounds people or pound the ground to win battle. Instead a scan I give you a instant pwned.

[video=youtube;k3il4-SIdWE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3il4-SIdWE[/video] at 42:00 it start and the pwn comes quickly.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I am tired of weak logic pumping a lady that pounds people or pound the ground to win battle. Instead a scan I give you a instant pwned.

[video=youtube;k3il4-SIdWE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3il4-SIdWE[/video] at 42:00 it start and the pwn comes quickly.

Lovely vid. Come back when you tell me how Raikage gets through concrete melting acid. At least Team 1 has tsunade who can constantly heal them so they don't die. All ay has his die by melting, or die by haemorrhage.

I am tired of weak logic pumping a guy who literally only runs and punches.

 

[TheEvilOne]

I am tired of weak logic pumping a lady that pounds people or pound the ground to win battle. Instead a scan I give you a instant pwned.

[video=youtube;k3il4-SIdWE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3il4-SIdWE[/video] at 42:00 it start and the pwn comes quickly.

I hope you know 70% of the Tsunade vs Orochimaru battle was FILLER. The anime isn't canon.
I said give MANGA SCANS.

 

[NewKageism]

I hope you know 70% of the Tsunade vs Orochimaru battle was FILLER. The anime isn't canon.
I said give MANGA SCANS.

Please really really anime not cannon? Wow get real people watch both anime and manga. Get real if it isn't a filler it is based off the manga. A filler anime is a filler anime.

One last time get real because guess what how long would manga scans be in an anime?

Now we basing everything off a manga good job with that.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Please really really anime not cannon? Wow get real people watch both anime and manga. Get real if it isn't a filler it is based off the manga. A filler anime is a filler anime.

One last time get real because guess what how long would manga scans be in an anime?

Now we basing everything off a manga good job with that.

But in this fight there were a lot of things that DIDN'T HAPPENED in the manga. For example Tsunade punching Orochimaru 150 times without results. In the manga she punched him only ONCE.

 

[NewKageism]

Lovely vid. Come back when you tell me how Raikage gets through concrete melting acid. At least Team 1 has tsunade who can constantly heal them so they don't die. All ay has his die by melting, or die by haemorrhage.

I am tired of weak logic pumping a guy who literally only runs and punches.

Watch and re watch anime and manga she spit that stuff out her mouth. He would see it coming she is good but he would be at her temple before she even knows it. Example when Zetzu tree limb almost hit her. Her best bet would be Gaara blocking her.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Watch and re watch anime and manga she spit that stuff out her mouth. He would see it coming she is good but he would be at her temple before she even knows it. Example when Zetzu tree limb almost hit her. Her best bet would be Gaara blocking her.

Honestly, I don't understand what you mean here. That's why I said: Give MANGA SCANS.

 

[NewKageism]

But in this fight there were a lot of things that DIDN'T HAPPENED in the manga. For example Tsunade punching Orochimaru 150 times without results. In the manga she punched him only ONCE.

Well you have to take the good in the bad but many things are the same. The anime is made by the same person, however imagine putting 150 punches in a manga. It would take as much time and space as long as this recent chapter of Obito showing rin... It took to much space

 

[NewKageism]

Honestly, I don't understand what you mean here. That's why I said: Give MANGA SCANS.

When Mei was fighting Zetsu stated as one of the weakest fighters he almost got her with a tree limb. The 7th swords man had to get her back with a tree smashing attack. I am saying Mei does mostly all her attacks out of her mouth and we yet to see Mei get into close combat not even to block...

 

[AGoodBoy]

Watch and re watch anime and manga she spit that stuff out her mouth. He would see it coming she is good but he would be at her temple before she even knows it. Example when Zetzu tree limb almost hit her. Her best bet would be Gaara blocking her.

you start off your post talking about 'logic' and 'common sense', but this is what you say? She creates an entire environment of acid, he's going to see and avoid an entire environment surrounding them? lol...

According to KCM Naruto, Ay's punches in V1 feel like they weight a million pound and could kill him if it landed

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In V2, Team 1 can't possibly react to his speed, Tsunade is the only one who might survive his punches if she has strength of the hundred activated.
Boosted with Onoki's boulder jutsu Ay is even faster and his punches are even stronger, they would all get obliterated one by one

yet it didn't break naruto's* arm.

more importantly, the bold is bullshit. Aggravated rock would slow him to a crawl, hence why it's used only when he's close. As soon as ay is slowed down by onoki using agravated rock, gaara can simply grab and trap him with sand and it's sand coffin GG.

 

[NewKageism]

Lovely vid. Come back when you tell me how Raikage gets through concrete melting acid. At least Team 1 has tsunade who can constantly heal them so they don't die. All ay has his die by melting, or die by haemorrhage.

I am tired of weak logic pumping a guy who literally only runs and punches.

Your logic is weak...

A would get through her mouth only acid the same way he got pass Jūgo point blank attack. The same way Sasuke Sanno at the last moment stop her attack. EZ

Now tell me how could she stop a for example this at 418? A block? If this does put her to sleep
another attack will
[video=youtube;sDS8_6D0D-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDS8_6D0D-Y[/video]

Now you talk about a person who punches and kicks but isn't that your person Tsunade? Do more research bro..
Get your weight up eat more potatoes and rice.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Stop using the anime as evidence.

 

[NewKageism]

you start off your post talking about 'logic' and 'common sense', but this is what you say? She creates an entire environment of acid, he's going to see and avoid an entire environment surrounding them? lol...


Are you talking about the lava? If so say lava
Because if you not talking about that the ACID aka Boil release is not hitting Ay. It might hit her teamates cause guess what it is air born... So your saying he is going to sit there and watch it wrap around him in which the acid can not do because it goes in one direction...

Show me where it wraps around...

 

[NewKageism]

Stop using the anime as evidence.

People use anime and manga all the time. Anime is more or less the extension it is like dragon ball z some things change but not all. Try putting a manga in anime point by point. You either have a lot of flash backs or an anime that last 5 mins. However know this some cartoons start as anime then go manga. Even if this is not the case with naruto. Then ask yourself what do kids see the most the anime or manga? The answer is anime has more viewers world wide compared to written print.

Lastly, you know I am fully able to give manga scans, but I want to show people the importance on how they would crush this team.

 

[genii96]

So what? It doesn't change the fact that it would have killed him.

Gaara won't have time to react, it's used at the last second so it barely makes any difference, his punch in V2 will surely kill Gaara.

raikage's punch isnt breaking sand dome,and is useless if gaara is in the air. Gaara can simply make the ground around him to quicksand anyway,A rushes at him and sinks

 

[pateuvasiliu]

raikage's punch isnt breaking sand dome,and is useless if gaara is in the air. Gaara can simply make the ground around him to quicksand anyway,A rushes at him and sinks

Who said Ay is attacking Gaara?

Ay kills Mei and Onoki kills Tsunade with Jinton. After that they simply overwhelm Gaara.