Mei and Chojuro vs. Hebi Sasuke

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I don't understand why people ask for scans, we're all Naruto nerds we should remember key shit like itachi having fast handseals easily.

I remember his hype of having fast handseal speed, but I don't remember his feats.
 

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Let me check for some.
This is one. [ ]-->[ ] Even Sasuke's sharingan couldn't see it, not even Sasuke himself believed he could create handseals in the midst of all these shurikens being thrown around.
Here he is being praised for his jutsu speed by a sharingan user, Kakashi, and kurenai. [ ]
Here Kabuto has his seals started for the suiton attack, while Itachi hasn't started [ ]. Yet Itachi ends up creating the jutsu case before Kabuto finished his hand seals [ ]. I believe there are a few more, but I don't remember them.
 

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Why is it so hard to imagine a female character can be better than Shitachi in terms of handseal speed?

How preposterous question is this? Itachi's handseal speed is with no doubt, the fastest in manga. While fighting the Jounin, Itachi attacked Kakashi with him barely able to keep up and that he would not last long when fighting in terms of speed. In the same scan, he had already created a Bunshin. Nothing from Mei would even come close to this speed -- note that this is Part I.
 

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Haku's hand seal speed is laughable when compared to the likes of Itachi.

Lmfao r u serious the speed he did with one hand -/-

Isn't sasuke and itachi hand speed the same when they were doing same Jutsu to counter each other?
 

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Lmfao r u serious the speed he did with one hand -/-

Isn't sasuke and itachi hand speed the same when they were doing same Jutsu to counter each other?
I am serious, I have no reason to believe Haku's hand seal speed is beyond Itachi's 5 hand seals when she only has a 4. More so, Kakashi could see her hand seals, while he couldn't see Itachi's.

Incorrect. Sasuke was capable of tapping his arm for a shuriken summoning by the time Itachi had done several seals. It was clearly portrayed, however, that Itachi was the quicker of the two in hand seals.
 

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Jesus <_<, are you guys really arguing over whose hand seals are the fastest? Itachi is known for his speed in seals. His speed is so quick that not even the Sharingan can predict it. Haku can do seals with one hand, yes, but his actual speed while doing them aren't fast at all when compared to Itachi's.
 

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This is one. [ ]-->[ ] Even Sasuke's sharingan couldn't see it, not even Sasuke himself believed he could create handseals in the midst of all these shurikens being thrown around.
Here he is being praised for his jutsu speed by a sharingan user, Kakashi, and kurenai. [ ]
Here Kabuto has his seals started for the suiton attack, while Itachi hasn't started [ ]. Yet Itachi ends up creating the jutsu case before Kabuto finished his hand seals [ ]. I believe there are a few more, but I don't remember them.

hmm, fair enough. But Mei's handseal speed is also amazing, considering she was able to use two water techniques after one another and considering one of those techniques requires 42 handeals. There aren't too many characters who have feats like this.
 

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hmm, fair enough. But Mei's handseal speed is also amazing, considering she was able to use two water techniques after one another and considering one of those techniques requires 42 handeals. There aren't too many characters who have feats like this.

Except Itachi.
 

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hmm, fair enough. But Mei's handseal speed is also amazing, considering she was able to use two water techniques after one another and considering one of those techniques requires 42 handeals. There aren't too many characters who have feats like this.
True, her handseal speed is quick. But she didn't use the 42 (actually 44) hand seals, it's been shown to be usable with a much lower amount of handseals given good chakra control and the exact amount varies from user to user.
 

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either can solo... chojuro is enough... mei is overkill...

chojuro cuts manda in half and mei melts it no problem... same happens to sasuke...

not sure if serious.. chojuro alone gets burtraped low dif.

OT. sasuke loses
 

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True, her handseal speed is quick. But she didn't use the 42 (actually 44) hand seals, it's been shown to be usable with a much lower amount of handseals given good chakra control and the exact amount varies from user to user.
Did you just call Haku female. XD
 

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I like the multiple mentions of Chojuro, as if he has any significance here lol. Somebody said he solo's, I'm dying right now!!!
 

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Mei is undoubtedly the most versatile female character of the manga. She is capable of using three elements ( Katon, Doton and Suiton ) and she has two Kekkei Genkai ( Futton and Youton ). In a battle she is usually calm and observant, as seen when she was able to detect the difference in Ao's behaviour when Fu was inhabiting his body. She is also somewhat skilled in taijutsu considering While she seems to be a fragile woman, her body is quite durable. She was able to survive a full powered punch from and a full powered punch from .

The Mizukage has several ways to counter everything in Sasuke's arsenal considering she is a mid-long ranged fighter while Sasuke is mainly skilled in close and mid ranged combat.


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Overwhelming Suitons

Mei can expell a large torrent of water that was strong enough to extinguish If Sasuke tries to roast her with his katons, Mei can potentially end the battle with three moves: at first she can counter Sasuke's Katon with her Suiton: Suijinchū then she can quickly use the same water for the After this all Mei has to do is to crush Sasuke's body with a second Suiryūdan no Jutsu. This amount of water should be enough to obliterate a human's body, considering the databook states the Suiryūdan deals physical damage. Now you may say Sasuke can counter because he can fly, but he won't have time to enter in CS2. Even Madara had no time to counter Mei's second suiton or to activate a higher level of Susanoo ( or at lest repair the damaged one ) to protect himself.

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As you can see, even the Susanoo wasn't able to completely stop Mei's Futton.​

Mei can use her Kekkei Genkai to prevent Sasuke from getting closer. At first she will set up a layer of Futton: Komu no jutsu to protect herself. A layer of corrosive acid would without a doubt stop Sasuke from blitzing Mei, considering and to So CS2 durability or not, even a sniff is enough to completely melt Sasuke's lung, even a blink is enough to melt his eyes. and even a touch is enough to melt his skin.

Moreover, This means she can simply decrease the ph level of her mist to the lowest level and when Sasuke gets close, she can instantly turn her mist into deadly corrosive acid.

Madara referred to Mei's Youton as an . Well this isn't surprising, considering the Youton is pretty much spammable. [ ]- [ ] She can cover the whole battlefield with lava, forcing with this Sasuke to activate his curse mark. Sasuke simply can't get close to her, but Mei can attack from a distance with her water dragons and lava torrents.

On the contrary to popular belief, Mei's Youton isn't slow. Sasuke was barely able to dodge her Bare in mind Mei wasn't trying to kill him, she merely Sasuke's only way out. The young Uchiha wasn't able to avoid her second attack, considering I know Sasuke was weakened and slowed down, but keep in mind a few pages earlier he was keeping up with Mifune.

Even if Sasuke somehow can get close to her with the help of Orochimaru's oral rebirth, the Mizukage can still force him to retreat with a lava torrent or water dragon.

Furthermore, Mei can cloud Sasuke's vision with her This should protect her from getting caught in a genjutsu and it should also hinder Sasuke in dodging Mei's elemental attacks. The Kirin plays no role in this battle because Sasuke won't be able to prepare it while dodging Mei's attacks.



I believe her Youton: Yokai no jutsu can be considered as a mid-long ranged technique.
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Against Sasuke she was using it as a close-mid ranged technique, but against Madara she extended the range of her technique by several meters. And like you said, her Suiton: Suiryudan no jutsu is definitely a long ranged technique. So all in all, it is safe to assume Mei is skilled in close ranged combat ( Futton: Komu no jutsu, Suiton: Suijinchū ), mid range combat ( lava globes ), mid-long range combat ( Youton: Yokai no jutsu ) and long range combat ( Suiton: Suiryudan no jutsu ). She also possesses a technique that has an aoe ( Kirigakure no Jutsu )

The Narutopedia is written mostly by fans. Obviously it can be a reliable source, but in Mei's case it isn't because she has no databook entry.



Thanks for the correction. But apart from that, Madara's was still more
powerful then most of the Katons in Sasuke's arsenal. Also keep in mind
to counter an even more powerful version of the



And Mei isn't an idiot either. She could easily force Sasuke to engage her in a ninjutsu
combat if she won't give Sasuke the chance to get close to her. Like I said, she can cover the area around herself with lava. The starting
distance is only 20 meter and as I explained earlier, she can extend the range of her
Youkai no jutsu. Her lava technique also covers a pretty wide area, so if she decides to
spam it, it will be impossible for Sasuke to avoid her lava barrage. This would force him
to enter CS2 and fly, making himself an easy target for Mei's Suiton: Suiryudan.



was used by Kakashi who isn't even
skilled in Suitons , yet it was still strong enough to onepanel Zabuza.
[ ] Mei's water dragon appears to be more
destructive. So even if the first Suiryudan won't kill Sausage, the second should be
definitely enough to cause him internal injures.



If he isn't going to rush there how can he blitz Mei?

Dealing with Manda

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While Manda is indeed troublesome, Mei can deal with him quite quickly. The fact that Mei
has full intel, she won't bother attacking Manda's tail, instead she will simply to the highest possible level. Manda is durable, but he won't
be able to tank Mei's acid for long considering
and considering Mei's acid was strong enough to
The pain would break the genjutsu. Now there is a chance Manda will simply turn
against Sasuke or he will simply disappear. Or Mei can simply kill him in the moment
Manda tries to swallow her. She can fill his mouth with a Youton: Youkai no jutsu. If
Sasuke is hiding in his mouth, he gets oneshotted.



Why would she do that when she can use her techniques while running? She was able to keep up with Tsunade and Ay, and she was able to coordinate an attack with them. This means Sasuke won't be able to keep his distance. The main reason Sasuke was able to produce the necessary storm conditions. was the . The heat created by the amaterasu >>> Sasuke's flames. Not to mention Mei can intercept his flames in mid air.



True, but I proved it is really an impressive offense, so it doesn't really matter. Um, dodging streams, globes and small lakes of lava isn't as easy as you think. The lava won't disappear. Even a misstep is enough for Sasuke and he gets melted ( or forced to overuse the oral rebirth )



I'm not joking. Mei herself stated the was to prevent Sasuke from escaping the building. Mei wasn't aiming at Karin. The distance is only 20 meters and like I proved, Mei can extend her technique by 20 meters.



Hmm, I don't remember that happening. I'm not watching fillers.
But Zabuza had no Futton. Mei can easily combine her Futton with her Kirigakure no jutsu. The sharingan can see the chakra, but it can't see the difference between the normal mist and the acid mist, especially if they are mixed.
Mei isn't getting blitzed as long as she has her Futton 'shield'. She should be able to stop Sasuke's Chidori Eiso with her Suiton: Suijinchū. The water conducts the electricity, this means it will simply 'trap' Sasuke's Raiton. As long as Mei won't touch the water, she should be fine.

I'm fully aware of Sasuke's speed feats, considering he is my favorite character, lol. I agree with everything, but why are you using EMS Sasuke's speed feats? I thought this is Hebi Sasuke ( the one who fought Itachi ) and not war arc Sasuke with the EMS restricted.



But the Mizukage's techniques are perfect counter against Sasuke's techniques.

* Youton: It makes Sasuke almost impossible to stay on the ground
* Futton: It prevents Sasuke from blitzing Mei.
* Suiton: Suijinchū: blocks Sasuke's Katons, shields Mei against attacks like shurikens, kunais, etc.
* Suiton: Suiryūdan: It has the power to damage Sasuke. It prevents him from preparing the Kirin.
* Suiton: Kirigakure no jutsu: It can be a deadly trap if Mei combines it with her Futton. It can be a distraction if Mei has to close/longer the distance​

Are You Talking About Mei & Chojuro vs Sasuke Because I Don't Think Mei Is Just Gonna Melt Her Little SideKick By Putting The Ph Level To Extreme or are You Arguing About Mei vs Sasuke..Im Confused<_< '___' O_O
Lawd,Be More Specific Plz
 
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