Meanwhile in Chicago: 7 Dead, 32 Wounded in Weekend Violence

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Interesting, situational. There are times where the unexpected act of a rabid one could be more useful than a trained guard.
Generally when it's in the middle of people and places you would rather see destroyed.

It just amazes me how much we are different even though I served my country too.
You're of the type that chooses society by instinct. I'm of the type that chooses society by logical deduction.

Where you play by the rules because it's nearly hard-coded into your genetics; I weigh options that you wouldn't think up if you had 20 minutes to brain-storm and just came from watching a documentary on Vietnam. I choose to behave acceptably in this society because it is conducive to my goals and objectives. I cannot get what I want out of life if I'm playing midwestern gangster with a meth lab; nor can I accomplish my goals if the society I've chosen to live in gets torn up and destroyed by a bunch of hoodlums who think they ammount to more than a grease stain.

Why is there so much hostility in this thread now?
Probably because it runs deep in my bones. I saw the corporate world mistreat my father. It hasn't been until the last several years of my life that my intelligence has garnered legitimate appreciation from my peers (before that - I was only worth interacting with for answers to a test in a watered-down education environment). I saw my mother suffer and die from cancer. My father died -the- month he was to retire; before he could have any grandchildren and before his children were fully grown (as if to add insult to injury).

I've had plenty of times in my life where I've wondered where I was going to stay - where I've starved over finances.

At any time I could have easily - and understandably (under the attitude of others expressed in this thread) - taken to theft, intimidation, etc to support myself. I have every 'right' to be generally pissed at the world and to lash out at the people who stand by in their bubbles of ignorance and complacence. It'd be 'easy.' This whole society works because people trust that the person next to them isn't thinking about killing them. Apply a little entrepreneurial spirit to that collective oversight and you can do just what gangs and the mafia did to build their empires.

But I didn't. I'd rather die than so much as sign up for food stamps - let alone cause a more direct disturbance of a person's life.

So I have no sympathy for those that do; and I find it downright ridiculous to consider such a decision tolerable.

It's akin to saying: "My cancerous tumor grows a little faster when I eat fast food. I think I'll eat fast food more often."

Or: "Aww... look... the leech that's been feeding on me just had babies. Aren't they cute!? I'll be sure to give them extra room to feed so the first leech can be a grandmother!"
 

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These assumptions kind of contradict each other. If one person is willing to shoot back, why wouldn't the original offender do the same? Furthermore, I don't think one gaines "street cred" by running away from a fight. You also neglect the fact that where in one scenario it is a single person who is the intended victim, is now several people involved in a shootout where innocent bystanders are more subjected to stray bullets.
They want an easy fight, not a battle. If they wanted a battle they would walk right up to their rival gang members territory and start a war. I have hundreds of examples but hopefully you gain some insight into reality:


Why didn't the guys stand and fight like you say they would?


He had a gun in the guys face, he could have shot him easily. Why didn't he?


The homeowner was outnumbered 4:1 and they had weapons as well. Why did they not stand and fight? His AR-15 doesn't have its range advantage indoors.

I would rather have bullets flying over and around my head than being aimed at my head. Random shots are not as dangerous as targeted shots. Why do you think soldiers are taught to aim then fire instead of just firing randomly.
I have yet to see that happen here. If you open fire at a gang member here, your entire family is going to get killed. They don't run they shoot back. And they always have atleast two people moving, never alone. Having guns overall makes things worse. That's why here weekly cops raid their hangout places/clubs and confiscate guns and drugs. Then again a criminal will always find a gun. While you shoot back how can you be sure it's not your bullet that bounces and kills someone? I have been in the amy and got to shoot all kinds of guns. Even bullets that glow to see how and where they fly/bounce. The moment you open fire in a city, you can be the killer yourself without knowing it.
If you pull out a gun in daylight and start shooting at people where I am at you will have incoming fire from random people all around you. WE OUTNUMBER THEM, they only have power because you let them have power. If we do not let them gain power and fight back then they will have no power. You LET THEM HURT YOUR FAMILY. If they tried that kind of stuff at my dads place they would have armor piercing AK-47 rounds firing back at them. Gangs are not very violent where I live because violent gang members get shot if they pull that stuff around here, they just steal shit <_<;;. I can walk around at night time without much worry because we protect our town.

If your weekly cop raids worked then why are they weekly instead of a one time raid? Sounds like your doing absolutely nothing if weekly raids do not fix any problems. My bullet may bounce off and kill someone, my axle on my car may also break near a bunch of school children and i lose control of my car right into a school. Life is full of risks, you can minimize those risks by actually aiming at and hitting your target while paying attention to what is behind him.

You were in the army? You don't even know what a "glowing round" is called. I call bullshit there.
There's no guarantee of that happening. If we made it a law that every adult in America had to carry a gun at all times, that would make it easier for someone to start violence. Let's say a "bad guy" walks into a mall, knowing full well that everyone has a gun. All he would have to do is shoot one person and leave. Now everyone else pulls out their gun. They look around and all they say is people with guns. Don't you think that more innocent people would be killed? How are you supposed to tell who is the bad guy and who is not in that scenario? Self preservation would tell you that everyone who isn't you is a foe, so you would shoot those that would pose the biggest threat to you and your family/friends. Thus the system of everyone being armed breaks down after one incident that would be easy to perpetrate.
Glad you brought that up. One of the safest cities in the USA did exactly that and the one year they had a murder it was a huge deal since they went without for 5 years.

Well damn they no longer have images, click here for full stats on keenesaw georgia: .They are less than half the US average when it comes to all crimes and less than 1/4th for most crimes. Because everyone carries it is difficult for criminals to exist because they cannot exert their power onto anyone. Its very safe and very family friendly. If I didn't like my city and state I would probably move there.

Yeah, everyone looks at the idiot who just shot his gun into the air and put a hole in the ceiling and then he has 50 guns pointed at him. I see no problem here, even if he tried to fight back he would be dead within a second. Most likely he would shit himself the second he looked around him. So no, I do not think innocent people would be killed because most people have ears and eyes.

Self preservation means do what gives you the highest chance of survival. Shooting blindly is very dangerous for your health. If you do not know who your enemy is you retreat to a safe location. Wow, you are a fool of a took. Go educate yourself.
 

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They want an easy fight, not a battle. If they wanted a battle they would walk right up to their rival gang members territory and start a war. I have hundreds of examples but hopefully you gain some insight into reality:


Why didn't the guys stand and fight like you say they would?


He had a gun in the guys face, he could have shot him easily. Why didn't he?


The homeowner was outnumbered 4:1 and they had weapons as well. Why did they not stand and fight? His AR-15 doesn't have its range advantage indoors.

I would rather have bullets flying over and around my head than being aimed at my head. Random shots are not as dangerous as targeted shots. Why do you think soldiers are taught to aim then fire instead of just firing randomly.

If you pull out a gun in daylight and start shooting at people where I am at you will have incoming fire from random people all around you. WE OUTNUMBER THEM, they only have power because you let them have power. If we do not let them gain power and fight back then they will have no power. You LET THEM HURT YOUR FAMILY. If they tried that kind of stuff at my dads place they would have armor piercing AK-47 rounds firing back at them. Gangs are not very violent where I live because violent gang members get shot if they pull that stuff around here, they just steal shit <_<;;. I can walk around at night time without much worry because we protect our town.

If your weekly cop raids worked then why are they weekly instead of a one time raid? Sounds like your doing absolutely nothing if weekly raids do not fix any problems. My bullet may bounce off and kill someone, my axle on my car may also break near a bunch of school children and i lose control of my car right into a school. Life is full of risks, you can minimize those risks by actually aiming at and hitting your target while paying attention to what is behind him.

You were in the army? You don't even know what a "glowing round" is called. I call bullshit there.


Glad you brought that up. One of the safest cities in the USA did exactly that and the one year they had a murder it was a huge deal since they went without for 5 years.

Well damn they no longer have images, click here for full stats on keenesaw georgia: .They are less than half the US average when it comes to all crimes and less than 1/4th for most crimes. Because everyone carries it is difficult for criminals to exist because they cannot exert their power onto anyone. Its very safe and very family friendly. If I didn't like my city and state I would probably move there.

Yeah, everyone looks at the idiot who just shot his gun into the air and put a hole in the ceiling and then he has 50 guns pointed at him. I see no problem here, even if he tried to fight back he would be dead within a second. Most likely he would shit himself the second he looked around him. So no, I do not think innocent people would be killed because most people have ears and eyes.

Self preservation means do what gives you the highest chance of survival. Shooting blindly is very dangerous for your health. If you do not know who your enemy is you retreat to a safe location. Wow, you are a fool of a took. Go educate yourself.
Who said that I was in an English speaking army? Who said that English is my first or even second language?
Before jumping to conclusions think.
 

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Who said that I was in an English speaking army? Who said that English is my first or even second language?
Before jumping to conclusions think.
Normally when they say "The Army" they refer to the US army, you are on english speaking forums. Specifying which army helps, I cannot read minds especially over the internet.
 

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Normally when they say "The Army" they refer to the US army, you are on english speaking forums. Specifying which army helps, I cannot read minds especially over the internet.
Finland army. That's what we call it here and that's why I said the army. Sorry if that mislead you to believe I was from the US. There are still great deal of people that are not from US here though. Take that in consideration. :)
 
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