Maybe Hashirama wasn't at full power, This is why

Sonin

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The big debate over"Was Oro's Edo Hashi, at full power?"
Do i have a for sure answer? Meh not really
I do have a theory not yet explored.
Let us all go back to where Minato left some of his chakra in naruto, it was evident it took alot to leave your chakra behind in the world. Now my quesiton is did this affect the First hokage, I have seen at least 3 sources of Hashi's cells and abundant chakra still in the Naruto world here it all is:

TOBI'S SHRINE
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This is like a manifest of Hashi, It obviously posses alot of chakra and even the cells of Hashi. Could this have affected him as an edo?! Very well possible Wait, there is more

TSUNADE'S NECKLACE

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IN the Naruto wiki
it is stated that it uses Hashi's chakra and technique to help supress the Kyubi.

And the third :
YAMATO​
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Orochimaru tested on 60 subjects. That is a signifigant amount of dna. This is the only not stated to directly contain his chakra but i would assume all cells possess it :)

Other arguments on this debate include:(None of these are mine below)

Kishi was not prepared to make Hashi strongest at first

Hype is irrelevant

Orochimaru couldn't use them to the fullest extent or really just didn't do so.

There are plenty of more i just wanted to show you my theory.

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At least consider my time :) I am not saying this is true but hey think about it <3
 

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You are going to start a flame war, you would probably thrive on the attention like every other scene kid though.
 

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I think he was at full power. Its just how Itachi going blind or losing his eyes (Sasuke's EMS) haven't affected him as an Edo.
 

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i think he was at full power aswell just thinks in part 2 are op'd making part 1 look lame though i kinda like part 1 more in many ways
 

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I think he was at his full power
 

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I don't think Edos are even effected in that way. Itachi left his eyes in his brother and still has them same as Nagato. It seems that Edos don't even run out of chakra so I dobt think that effected them at all. Sarutobi just happened to end the fight before it got to advance in my opinion.
 

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He was probably full power considering his auto regen ability any missing cells would regenerate straight up and chakra reserves replenish themselves no matter who the ninja. I think the theory of Kishi making everyone more powerful in part 2 is totally correct.
 
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Tobi said he grew it through DNA that he took from Hashrima, no where at all states it took, or it has Chakra of Hashi. He just took a little sample of DNA, u know blood, or cells, and he grew them. Just like if you watched the Incredible Hulk, and MR. Blue had a sample of the Hulks blood, than when Mr. Green (the hulk) visited MR. Blue, he had enormous amount of his blood because he grew it. So I do not think Hashi died because he was not full power. I appreciate your hard work creating it, but your theory no.
 

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He was at full power. Jeez leweze.

They was TOYING with the 3rd, just like Madara is toying with the Kages. The Senju brothers completely OWNED the 3rd Hokage during that fight. They didnt show OP powers because they were "sealed" inside a small barrier. Plus they didnt NEED to use OP techniques. The little BS moves they were doing was putting Tobirama on his @$$. Even his staff was calling him old and a shadow of his former self. They didnt do OP moves b/c they didnt even need to waste the chakra. The only thing Tobirama did was pull the Death Reaper out his @$$... if he didnt have THAT jutsu, he would have been dead and Oro had 2 good arms. Shheeesh





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Edo tensei summons the ninja the way he was when he died. It doesnt matter what happened to the body because it doesnt need the body for the jutsu, but only the dna U_U
Sarutobi sealed the first hokage before he could use more jutsu's
 

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Tobi said he grew it through DNA that he took from Hashrima, no where at all states it took, or it has Chakra of Hashi. He just took a little sample of DNA, u know blood, or cells, and he grew them. Just like if you watched the Incredible Hulk, and MR. Blue had a sample of the Hulks blood, than when Mr. Green (the hulk) visited MR. Blue, he had enormous amount of his blood because he grew it. So I do not think Hashi died because he was not full power. I appreciate your hard work creating it, but your theory no.

Yes he bumped bijju chakra into it but it had to have base chakra to base off even dismal amounts found in his dna :) i was just putting other thoughts out there ^ i personally believe orochimaru just underestimated Hiruzen and didn't use him to the fullest extent. Either way I loved your analogy :)
 

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He was at full power. Jeez leweze.

They was TOYING with the 3rd, just like Madara is toying with the Kages. The Senju brothers completely OWNED the 3rd Hokage during that fight. They didnt show OP powers because they were "sealed" inside a small barrier. Plus they didnt NEED to use OP techniques. The little BS moves they were doing was putting Tobirama on his @$$. Even his staff was calling him old and a shadow of his former self. They didnt do OP moves b/c they didnt even need to waste the chakra. The only thing Tobirama did was pull the Death Reaper out his @$$... if he didnt have THAT jutsu, he would have been dead and Oro had 2 good arms. Shheeesh





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

WHOA WHOA, i have said exactly what you said before and HIruzen fans get MAADDDD lol. I was just putting out a new theory :)
 

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He was at full power. Jeez leweze.

They was TOYING with the 3rd, just like Madara is toying with the Kages. The Senju brothers completely OWNED the 3rd Hokage during that fight. They didnt show OP powers because they were "sealed" inside a small barrier. Plus they didnt NEED to use OP techniques. The little BS moves they were doing was putting Tobirama on his @$$. Even his staff was calling him old and a shadow of his former self. They didnt do OP moves b/c they didnt even need to waste the chakra. The only thing Tobirama did was pull the Death Reaper out his @$$... if he didnt have THAT jutsu, he would have been dead and Oro had 2 good arms. Shheeesh





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

"Tobirama?" THAT'S THE WRONG KAGE. Hahaa
 
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