Maybe... chapter 1 won't JUST be chapter 1.

[Raekwon26]

Oh,really ? lol

Then by all means go ahead and give detail where detail is due.

Sasuke and MS

Kakashi and his MS

And this "Minato & Obito confusion"

Please be as clear as possible.

Ok.

Sasuke and his MS:
We were shown that in his fight with Killer B, Sasuke was barley able to even use his MS and the techs he had achieved with it. He finally pulled out Amaterasu and we saw after the fight that his vision was slightly blurred.
Come the time Kage summit time, Sasuke is already an expert at wielding his Susano'o to extent where he can decided to pull out certain limbs at any given point determining on the situation AND he can even cover his Susano'o rib cage in Enton.

How is this possible? Did he train using these techs? If so, what about his eye-sight? How come his eye-sight was only shown to be a problem AFTER the Danzo fight? Through-out, his sight was never shown to be a problem in any of the fights before that so what happened there?

Kakashi and his MS:
Again, we've been told that the true power of the Sharingan can only achieved by those whose posses Uchiha blood. However, Kakashi is able to spam Kamui as he pleases and with no repercussions at all regarding his sight even though we have seen the effects of using MS in regards to Madara, Sasuke and Itachi. Kakashi does not suffer from the Sharingan losing it's light as evidenced in one of the recent chapters where he is CLEARLY able to see Sasuke and Naruto through his Sharingan.

How is this possible? Why doesn't Kakashi suffer from the same effects as every other MS user does? Did we even get an explanation for it?

Minato and Obito:
When 'Tobi' was revealed to be Obito, we were given that flashback chapter of Obito's life (You know, chapter 599 or 600, I forget). In that chapter, we can clearly see Minato's face present on the Hokage mountain even though he wasn't made Hokage yet. Now, it could be said that they had already decided to make him Hokage, it just wasn't official yet. However, in the recent chapters, we have seen an older Obito, one who remained in the leaf village and we also see Hokage mountain in a lot of these flashbacks and lo and behold, Minato's face is not present.

What happened there? Did they decide to take his face off the mountain when Obito got older, but leave it there when he was younger? How does that make sense? What happened to Minato's face on the Mountain?

 

[Chatte]

Ok.

Sasuke and his MS:
We were shown that in his fight with Killer B, Sasuke was barley able to even use his MS and the techs he had achieved with it. He finally pulled out Amaterasu and we saw after the fight that his vision was slightly blurred.
Come the time Kage summit time, Sasuke is already an expert at wielding his Susano'o to extent where he can decided to pull out certain limbs at any given point determining on the situation AND he can even cover his Susano'o rib cage in Enton.
How is this possible? Did he train using these techs? If so, what about his eye-sight? How come his eye-sight was only shown to be a problem AFTER the Danzo fight? Through-out, his sight was never shown to be a problem in any of the fights before that so what happened there?

Barely using it? The only struggle he had was with putting out the flames, from where Enton Kagutsuchi was born.
Also, you seemed to miss a character here, who well, many think in low-respect but well, she has her role there.
Karin was there present at all times, through her, Kishi telling the viewer that Sasuke's chakra becomes more and more colder, which is in synergy with his Susano'o becoming more and more powerful. Remember Tobirama's explanation?! Their 'feelings' affect their chakra, hence, they can discover new powers or depending on the situation, weilds them better. I see no plot-hole here.
Plus, throughout the story it is shown to us that Sasuke is a quick learner himself. So, where's the confusion?
His eyesight?! The problem with his eyesight was that in the Danzo fight, he used the eyes much more then he did in any other battle. Do not forget pre-Danzo, he fought the Kages. Ad in-between, Karin healed him, but not enough, where previously, he had Karin AND Juugo healing him, therefore his eyesight got better.
But here, he had Karin just one time, but the straining on his eyes was bigger than in his battle with Killer Bee.
Once again, I don't see where the confusion was.

Kakashi and his MS:
Again, we've been told that the true power of the Sharingan can only achieved by those whose posses Uchiha blood. However, Kakashi is able to spam Kamui as he pleases and with no repercussions at all regarding his sight even though we have seen the effects of using MS in regards to Madara, Sasuke and Itachi. Kakashi does not suffer from the Sharingan losing it's light as evidenced in one of the recent chapters where he is CLEARLY able to see Sasuke and Naruto through his Sharingan.

How is this possible? Why doesn't Kakashi suffer from the same effects as every other MS user does? Did we even get an explanation for it?

The true power of Sharingan goes up to Susano'o. Do we see Kakashi having a Susano'o? No, because he's not an Uchiha. As about your spamming, you forget that involves chakra usage and chakra/chakra pool can be trained. You also forget that in-between, Kakashi has been helped to restore by Kyuubi's chakra, which acts as a healing medium. Doesn't heal BUT it replenishes chakra and gets you to a better condition since we know that without chakra, you are dying.
On and in-between he was also healed by Sakura.
Oh, and let's remember that he once stayed one week in hospital after using his sharingan.
But do remember that once again, chakra can be trained and chakra pool can be raised by training on the stamina.

Minato and Obito:
When 'Tobi' was revealed to be Obito, we were given that flashback chapter of Obito's life (You know, chapter 599 or 600, I forget). In that chapter, we can clearly see Minato's face present on the Hokage mountain even though he wasn't made Hokage yet. Now, it could be said that they had already decided to make him Hokage, it just wasn't official yet. However, in the recent chapters, we have seen an older Obito, one who remained in the leaf village and we also see Hokage mountain in a lot of these flashbacks and lo and behold, Minato's face is not present.

What happened there? Did they decide to take his face off the mountain when Obito got older, but leave it there when he was younger? How does that make sense? What happened to Minato's face on the Mountain?

Did you even read what we discussed earlier about this? About volume releases, editors and WSJ?!

 

[Raekwon26]

Barely using it? The only struggle he had was with putting out the flames, from where Enton Kagutsuchi was born.
Also, you seemed to miss a character here, who well, many think in low-respect but well, she has her role there.
Karin was there present at all times, through her, Kishi telling the viewer that Sasuke's chakra becomes more and more colder, which is in synergy with his Susano'o becoming more and more powerful. Remember Tobirama's explanation?! Their 'feelings' affect their chakra, hence, they can discover new powers or depending on the situation, weilds them better. I see no plot-hole here.
Plus, throughout the story it is shown to us that Sasuke is a quick learner himself. So, where's the confusion?
His eyesight?! The problem with his eyesight was that in the Danzo fight, he used the eyes much more then he did in any other battle. Do not forget pre-Danzo, he fought the Kages. Ad in-between, Karin healed him, but not enough, where previously, he had Karin AND Juugo healing him, therefore his eyesight got better.
But here, he had Karin just one time, but the straining on his eyes was bigger than in his battle with Killer Bee.
Once again, I don't see where the confusion was.

That's false.
He wasn't even shown to USE his Susano'o at all and you want to have me believe that because he is a 'fast learner' he was already able to wield it in such a way that he was a seasoned pro? I don't care about his chakra getting colder, that has no relation in his ability to wield Susano'o the way he he was using it. Having his feelings overwhelm him and be a direct cause of his ability to use his Susano'o is wrong AND that makes no sense, because if is feelings control his Susano'o and his power, he should have had no problems when he pulled it out against Kakashi. He had no control over his abilities when he fought Kakashi briefly and that showed that, that was a level of Susano'o that he had no yet learned how to control and use.
His abilty to use Enton was only shown that he was able to manipulate the flames to do his bidding, we were never shown this. All we were shown was that he was able to put them out.
Doesn't matter if he is a fast leaner or not, these techs require training and Sasuke showed none of that.
Where does it state that Karin or Jugo healing him helps his eye-sight? Where does it say that?
He should have had problems with his eye-sight after the Kage fight, he was shown with none.
Karin healing has no bearing on his Sharingan losing it's light, no where in the Manga has it been stated that, that is even a possiblty.

The true power of Sharingan goes up to Susano'o. Do we see Kakashi having a Susano'o? No, because he's not an Uchiha. As about your spamming, you forget that involves chakra usage and chakra/chakra pool can be trained. You also forget that in-between, Kakashi has been helped to restore by Kyuubi's chakra, which acts as a healing medium. Doesn't heal BUT it replenishes chakra and gets you to a better condition since we know that without chakra, you are dying.
On and in-between he was also healed by Sakura.
Oh, and let's remember that he once stayed one week in hospital after using his sharingan.
But do remember that once again, chakra can be trained and chakra pool can be raised by training on the stamina.

Again, wrong.
The true power of the Sharingan can only be wielded in the hands of an Uchiha. It has nothing to do with Susano'o. Itachi even stated that to Kakashi when he went up against him. Shisui's eye is a prime example of that AND how Izanagi was used by Danzo. Danzo had a specific time limit on how and when he was allowed to use Shisui's eye, we have never been shown that Shisui suffered from the problem.
Again, healing has no bearing on the Sharingan losing it's light, it's never been stated that medical ninjustsu helps that.
Even Itachi confirmed that. He told us that Madara tried a range of mediceines to stop his his Sharingan fro losing it's light, but none were effective.
Replenishing chakra does not mean that the Sharingan's light starts a fresh, no where in the Manga has that been stated.
Who care's if he stayed once a week in hospital using his Sharingan? That should have effected his eye-sight and evidently, it didn't and now in the war, EVEN BEFORE he had the Kyuubi chakra, he was able to spam Kamui without any of the lingering side-effects.

Did you even read what we discussed earlier about this? About volume releases, editors and WSJ?!

No I didn't.

 

[GrayParadise]

Wow.
This thread was a fail. The big point of the thread was all off tracked and derailed to plot holes.
Screw this tread. Requesting delete and going to repost it later.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

so whats ... that jutsu ??? plot hole lmao ... i kid i kid

PS for all the tards they were talking first WSJ issue of the year .... not naruto

 

[Noni]

That actually would be a pretty good idea.