Master Jiraiya Vs. Deidara

[Rιver]

Oh pray do tell, how does that happen.

Do I need to create scenario for this?

 

[Worm]

Please do.

 

[Rιver]

Ok.

Wind was blowing. Leaves scratching face. Almost felt like small blades dashing through the wind. There he was. The gay artist who took too much pride in his so-called "art". Jiraiya knew. He had to put a stop to this. "This is not art!!" he yelled. Deidaras smirk turned into a cold stare - a look of a hungry wolf who's dinner was snatched. Quick! Deidara joined the small leaves and flew to sky. He felt no empathy. No remorse. Jiraiya felt bad. Ashamed and disappointed. As Deidara was preparing for Jiraiyas utmost death all he heard was "Kuchiyose: Yatai Kuzushi no Jutsu!!". A giant shadow appeared above them and it surrounded their sight. As if it was night and sun died. And then it hit him. He noticed that he was falling at rapid speed towards the ground. His bird desperately tried to fly out of the giant darkness' grasp. But darkness showed no mercy. And then... BAM. Bunta was there sitting as arrogant as usual: "Who is the one I just flattened?". Both Jiraiya and Bunta started laughing. But it didn't change the fact that... Deidara was... gone.

 

[Worm]

Amazing writting skills. Now you're gonna explain to me how Jiraiya manages to summon Bunta above Deidara and how does that defeat Deidara.

 

[Apêx1]

If Yatai Kuzushi is FCD then it definitely needs to be used from above. Summonings ALWAYS occur beneath the user. If Jiraiya uses the summoning jutsu on the floor the summon won't appear 50 meters above him. It will appear right beneath him lik it has every other time in this manga where summoning jutsu was used. FCD is simply when the user uses summoning from above a target to crush it from below him. You have no basis for your unwarranted claim.

 

[Lariatoo]

Jiraiya high diff.

 

[Rιver]

If Yatai Kuzushi is FCD then it definitely needs to be used from above. Summonings ALWAYS occur beneath the user. If Jiraiya uses the summoning jutsu on the floor the summon won't appear 50 meters above him. It will appear right beneath him lik it has every other time in this manga where summoning jutsu was used. FCD is simply when the user uses summoning from above a target to crush it from below him. You have no basis for your unwarranted claim.

Keep talking trash Itani.

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Not to mention Deidara was about 10-15m above the ground since Chidori Spear almost reached him and that's 5m. Lmao.

 

[NarutoX28]

^ That was his C2 Dragon which noticeably slower than his C1 Birds.

 

[Rιver]

^ That was his C2 Dragon which noticeably slower than his C1 Birds.

Don't think he still evades it. Also is there proof of speed difference?

 

[Worm]

Don't think he still evades it. Also is there proof of speed difference?

C1 Birds are smaller, but faster. C2 Dragon lacks feats in terms of speed. And we've already seen that the smaller bird = faster bird case is true when it comes to Deidara atm since he specifically created some smaller birds to be faster than his bigger ones.

 

[NarutoX28]

Don't think he still evades it. Also is there proof of speed difference?

It's hard to prove though C2 Dragon did seem less mobile as it struggled to evade Sasuke's Shuriken whereas Deidara's C1 Bird could evade Gaara's Massive Sand Structures coming from multiple different angles.

 

[Gein]

If Yatai Kuzushi is FCD then it definitely needs to be used from above. Summonings ALWAYS occur beneath the user. If Jiraiya uses the summoning jutsu on the floor the summon won't appear 50 meters above him. It will appear right beneath him lik it has every other time in this manga where summoning jutsu was used. FCD is simply when the user uses summoning from above a target to crush it from below him. You have no basis for your unwarranted claim.

The summons emerge from markings created by the jutsu. As seen in multiple instances.

The closest or easiest place to mark is usually the ground(beneath).

 

[Zexion~]

I've already proven you need to be above.

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Why else would Naruto have jumped from the ground to use it.

 

[Apêx1]

Keep talking trash Itani.

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Not to mention Deidara was about 10-15m above the ground since Chidori Spear almost reached him and that's 5m. Lmao.

1. Zex shat on you.

2. Don't compare a normal summoner to a paths exclusive to the Rinnegan which serves the sole purpose of summoning. Probably can summon out of his **** cavity if he chooses to do so.

 

[Rιver]

You bring the scan and they keep denying it. Also Zex I'll give you 100 dollars if you pull the panel Naruto jumping to perform the jutsu. Much proof.

"Exclusive summoning". What's your point dude? It's Kuchiyose as stated.

 

[Haloguy2710]

Jiraiya wins this

 

[Worm]

The summons emerge from markings created by the jutsu. As seen in multiple instances.

The closest or easiest place to mark is usually the ground(beneath).

Because you can't throw your blood 10 meters ahead of you and just place your hand down and form a Summoning Seal there. They are specifically creating somewhere near the summoner.

You bring the scan and they keep denying it. Also Zex I'll give you 100 dollars if you pull the panel Naruto jumping to perform the jutsu. Much proof.

Prove to me that Naruto suffers from hyperactive retardation and he felt the need to summon a frog, then jump on it and immediately de-summon it afterwards. If he was a hyperactive retard, the action of jumping on it would make sense. There's absolutely no proof he didn't make the jump while summoning either. In fact, him being on top of the frog once it's summoned proves that he had to jump above Zetsu.

Pain's summoning is immensely different. First, it doesn't take the usage of blood. Second, it's a summoning unique to the Rinnegan and it's special beasts. Now prove that Jiraiya can do that, too.

 

[Apêx1]

You bring the scan and they keep denying it. Also Zex I'll give you 100 dollars if you pull the panel Naruto jumping to perform the jutsu. Much proof.

"Exclusive summoning". What's your point dude? It's Kuchiyose as stated.

Pretty confident you can see Naruto jumping in that scan where Zetsu is shown from above (Naruto's perspective).

And lol. There's a clear difference between a normal summoner who needs hand seals and blood and a summoner who can at time summon withkut hand seals, and also always summon without blood.

 

[Zexion~]

You bring the scan and they keep denying it. Also Zex I'll give you 100 dollars if you pull the panel Naruto jumping to perform the jutsu. Much proof.

"Exclusive summoning". What's your point dude? It's Kuchiyose as stated.

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[Apêx1]

Lol I was wrong then. Zex proved it though, I didn't notice the jump mark smh.