Mask Man Tobi vs. Naruto and Sasuke

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mhhhh idk idk :D maybe sasuke and Naruto can win this idk
 

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Lol how so because I did not understood your first post.

Naruto or sasuke could solo the bijuu tobi is shit useless he warps one of them equals no kamui when they kill him they can also come back by using Reverse Summoning
 

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I can never completely understand your post. Dat west palm education.



Who the hell is she.



Here is my out take on how Tobi can take this:

It will not be as easy for Naruto to defeat the Bijuu simply because he had good supporting characters helping and stalling. Characters like Bee, Guy, and Kakashi. Not only will not be easy for Naruto, even having Sage boost, because Obito is still able to switch on and off, on what mode would be best to fit the battle situation. Example, If going full Buijuu allows his support to become a bigger target in some situation he can always un-form them to fit the battle situation [ ]

-Naruto's clones still spells out "poof" and any direct hit:[ ]
-The 6 jins had never lost their ability to share vision attempting to use clones against the jins with back stabs would rarely be .

Its teamwork vs teamwork. And it seems Tobi has the upper hand here due to what I explained above (plus by numbers). They will have to do something about the forest because it helps Tobi alot more, stated by

Before one of Tobi's Buijuu gets expose in its location, , Tobi can take advantage of the situation where their focus will be other other jins, thus one of the Buijuu can release its full attack in this mist of focus. I guess using "this" jutsu would fit best under trees (Rotton Gas) [ ] [ ]. The jutsu has the ability to disintegrate trees instantly, meaning it can do heavy damage to Sussanoo ( and Note: Madara did deal with lava in that scan but it was basically showing a melting point of Sussanoo being as much valid when dealing with corrosive gas) and Naruto's chakra cloak (not 100 percent sure on Naruto defensive cloak dealing with Acid). That gas pH level was higher then Mei's Boil Release (only because she didn't have enough screen time to increase hers at will)

Taking advantage of their defense being "loosened" any powerful strike should be able to knock out Sussanoo's defense. Maybe both Roshi ( and ) and Han combo, getting Han to land a hit should do the trick due to its physical power. Depending on what stage Sasuke Sussanoo is using shouldn't matter. Tobi can decide which attack would be best to attack if v1/v2 forms, base Han should have enough to knock it . v3/larger Buijuu tackle should do the .

Tobi has the opportunity to then spawn a barrier to either Sasuke or Naruto, temporary, to ruin their teamwork [ ]

Making it a temporal 7 vs 1 (Or possible one Buijuu charging a TBB, waiting for the right moment for the barrier to break)

If Sasuke is trapped, Tobi can begin releasing Chakra Receivers to subdue Naruto first then end him. [ ] [ ]. If Naruto first, Sasuke gets gang-banged too.

So yea here is some of my output

When I get time, I'll counter this post.
 

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When he just gain bm defeat the bijuu with minimal help, now naruto who has not only improved but also add sm will solo the bijuu with ease. The problem is with defeating kamui. Maybe naruto can use ghost punch in bsm?
 

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Lol nobody is soloing Buijuu's.



cool

Naruto already did if they stay in the lower forms bijuu dama barrage tears them apart enton magatamas same rule bijuus are actually easy to solo
 

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When he just gain bm defeat the bijuu with minimal help, now naruto who has not only improved but also add sm will solo the bijuu with ease. The problem is with defeating kamui. Maybe naruto can use ghost punch in bsm?

Here is what I said concerning Naruto's first encounter:

It will not be as easy for Naruto to defeat the Bijuu simply because he had good supporting characters helping and stalling. Characters like Bee, Guy, and Kakashi. Not only will not be easy for Naruto, even having Sage boost, because Obito is still able to switch on and off, on what mode would be best to fit the battle situation. Example, If going full Buijuu allows his support to become a bigger target in some situation he can always un-form them to fit the battle situation [ ]

IF you look at that battle carefully, non of the Buijuu's didn't even attempt to use chemistry with using their powers. All they did was tried to Tackle Naruto all together. And forming their TBB together. Tobi will be fighting differently in this match up. As for ghost arms, whats that?

Naruto already did if they stay in the lower forms bijuu dama barrage tears them apart enton magatamas same rule bijuus are actually easy to solo

To solo someone is to not get help at all. Also, they were fighting alot more stupid in the manga. Not one Buijuu attempt to mix their attack combinations like they did in v2. All they tried to do is submit Naruto. The fight will be alot different with Tobi playing his cards right. And interfering. I already post what he can do on post #17
 
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In my opinion, Obito would win this.
 

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Here is what I said concerning Naruto's first encounter:



IF you look at that battle carefully, non of the Buijuu's didn't even attempt to use chemistry with using their powers. All they did was tried to Tackle Naruto all together. And forming their TBB together. Tobi will be fighting differently in this match up. As for ghost arms, whats that?



To solo someone is to not get help at all. Also, they were fighting alot more stupid in the manga. Not one Buijuu attempt to mix their attack combinations like they did in v2. All they tried to do is submit Naruto. The fight will be alot different with Tobi playing his cards right. And interfering. I already post what he can do on post #17

im not reading older post tobi couldnt do much if you remember he needed sharingan genjutsu and occular chains to controll one him controlling all 6 plus fighting not happening also what can tobi possibly do to kurama in bm mode naruto solod the bijuu like i said sasuke could handle tobi main body with a kurama cloak
 

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Off topic: Damn... why I have idea that I have seen similliar threads some time ago ? Yeah, I am sure this thread was recycled again and again.

On topic: BSM Naruto=Sage tailed beast mode Naruto=Tailed beast Sage mode Naruto solos Masked Man Obito with low to none diff.

Reasons:

- Due to great SM's sensing ability, great reaction time and enhanced range of attack and body

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- Due to BM's great foot speed, chakra/Kurama arms and overhelming power.

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Possible Scenario:

BSM Naruto can't be caught off guard with Obito's blitz Kamui due to his Sage mode sensing ability, negative emotions feeling, enhanced reaction time along with excellent great foot speed. Now BSM Naruto deals with Edo Jinchurki first, destroying them with tailed beast bomb or Kurama arms, while Obito can't even land his blow on BSM Naruto. After dealing with Edo Jinchurki BSM Naruto blitz and kill Obito, due overhelming speed combined with enhanced range of attack(Obito won't react in time and activate Kamui as he can't see nature energy so Obito will get hit as he will feel safe with Naruto being out of range.)

BM Naruto=Tailed beast mode Naruto can win against Masked Man Obito but can loose as well.

Reasons:

- Due to BM's great foot speed, chakra/Kurama arms and overhelming power. (He can win)

Possible Scenario:

BM Naruto can be caught off guard with Obito's blitz Kamui due to lack of Sage mode sensing ability and enhanced reaction time. Now it can go either way, If Masked Man Obito can use Kamui on BM Naruto before BM Naruto lands his blow on Obito then BM Naruto looses, else BM Naruto has slight chance to land his blow on Obito utilizing his full speed, but if BM Naruto misses his chance then Kamui blitz and Naruto is done. BM Naruto easily deals with Edo Jinchurki using Tailed beast bomb or Kurama/chakra arms. After dealing with Edo Jinchurki BM Naruto blitz and can kill Obito, due overhelming speed or Naruto misses and Obito catch him in Kamui. GG Naruto. Most of the time I could say Naruto looses

Naruto's only choices
: Clone spam and trap or utilizing his full speed

KCM Naruto=Nine tails chakra mode Naruto=Rikudou Mode Naruto looses almost all the time against Masked Man Obito with only chance by using Clone spam and trap.

Sage mode Naruto can win against Masked Man Obito only if he land his blow first due to enhanced range of attack but if he misses then Masked Man Obito catches him in Kamui. GG Naruto.

EMS Sasuke lacks supperior reaction time, sage mode's sensing ability and enhanced range of attack to land his blow on Masked Man Obito, so EMS Sasuke simply looses.

Summary:

Both BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Godfroffstomps Masked Man Obito with negg diff.

Both BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke wins most of the time against Masked Man Obito but Obito has slight chance to win.

Both KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke looses to Masked Man Obito with low diff.

Both Sage mode Naruto and EMS Sasuke can win against The Masked Man Obito with 50% win-50% loose

BSM Naruto stomps Masked Man Obito

BM Naruto has slight chance to win against Masked Man Obito but most time he looses

KCM Naruto has just 1/10 chance to win against Masked Man Obito with clone spam and trap.

Sage mode has slight chance to win against Masked Man Obito depends who lands blow first.

EMS Sasuke looses to Masked Man Obito high diff.
 
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Naruto never solo'd the bijuu

Bee and 8 tails protected him from 3 and 5 tails
 

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im not reading older post tobi couldnt do much if you remember he needed sharingan genjutsu and occular chains to controll one him controlling all 6 plus fighting not happening also what can tobi possibly do to kurama in bm mode naruto solod the bijuu like i said sasuke could handle tobi main body with a kurama cloak

There is only 25 post here and mine is 17. I do not remember that he needed sharingan genjutsu to control the buijuu's please so me scans. Tobi already shown to use Kamui while using all 6 Buijuu's [ ] and [ ] and [ ]. So again whos to say he is not allow to interfere and use other jutsu's while controlling them?

I will still wait until you actually post how either of them can even solo. You should maybe start with Sasuke since maybe thats the best person you can argue against
 

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Off topic: Damn... why I have idea that I have seen similliar threads some time ago ? Yeah, I am sure this thread was recycled again and again.

On topic: BSM Naruto=Sage tailed beast mode Naruto=Tailed beast Sage mode Naruto solos Masked Man Obito with low to none diff.

Reasons:

- Due to great SM's sensing ability, great reaction time and enhanced range of attack and body

- Due to BM's great foot speed, chakra/Kurama arms and overhelming power.

Possible Scenario:

BSM Naruto can't be caught off guard with Obito's blitz Kamui due to his Sage mode sensing ability, negative emotions feeling, enhanced reaction time along with excellent great foot speed. Now BSM Naruto deals with Edo Jinchurki first, destroying them with tailed beast bomb or Kurama arms, while Obito can't even land his blow on BSM Naruto. After dealing with Edo Jinchurki BSM Naruto blitz and kill Obito, due overhelming speed combined with enhanced range of attack(Obito won't react in time and activate Kamui as he can't see nature energy so Obito will get hit as he will feel safe with Naruto being out of range.)

BM Naruto=Tailed beast mode Naruto can win against Masked Man Obito but can loose as well.

Reasons:

- Due to BM's great foot speed, chakra/Kurama arms and overhelming power. (He can win)

Possible Scenario:

BM Naruto can be caught off guard with Obito's blitz Kamui due to lack of Sage mode sensing ability and enhanced reaction time. Now it can go either way, If Masked Man Obito can use Kamui on BM Naruto before BM Naruto lands his blow on Obito then BM Naruto looses, else BM Naruto has slight chance to land his blow on Obito utilizing his full speed, but if BM Naruto misses his chance then Kamui blitz and Naruto is done. BM Naruto easily deals with Edo Jinchurki using Tailed beast bomb or Kurama/chakra arms. After dealing with Edo Jinchurki BM Naruto blitz and can kill Obito, due overhelming speed or Naruto misses and Obito catch him in Kamui. GG Naruto. Most of the time I could say Naruto looses

Naruto's only choices
: Clone spam and trap or utilizing his full speed

KCM Naruto=Nine tails chakra mode Naruto=Rikudou Mode Naruto looses almost all the time against Masked Man Obito with only chance by using Clone spam and trap.

Sage mode Naruto can win against Masked Man Obito only if he land his blow first due to enhanced range of attack but if he misses then Masked Man Obito catches him in Kamui. GG Naruto.

EMS Sasuke lacks supperior reaction time, sage mode's sensing ability and enhanced range of attack to land his blow on Masked Man Obito, so EMS Sasuke simply looses.

Summary:

Both BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke Godfroffstomps Masked Man Obito with negg diff.

Both BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke wins most of the time against Masked Man Obito but Obito has slight chance to win.

Both KCM Naruto and EMS Sasuke looses to Masked Man Obito with low diff.

Both Sage mode Naruto and EMS Sasuke can win against The Masked Man Obito with 50% win-50% loose

BSM Naruto stomps Masked Man Obito

BM Naruto has slight chance to win against Masked Man Obito but most time he looses

KCM Naruto has just 1/10 chance to win against Masked Man Obito with clone spam and trap.

Sage mode has slight chance to win against Masked Man Obito depends who lands blow first.

EMS Sasuke looses to Masked Man Obito high diff.

Your difficulty comparison is way off but thats your opinion I guess. I like how your making Naruto look invincible though (BSM) even when its 7 vs 1. Each character has its benefits and can still support Tobi alot to catch Naruto.

But I am interested of you going in depth of how current Naruto can solo.
 

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There is only 25 post here and mine is 17. I do not remember that he needed sharingan genjutsu to control the buijuu's please so me scans. Tobi already shown to use Kamui while using all 6 Buijuu's [ ] and [ ] and [ ]. So again whos to say he is not allow to interfere and use other jutsu's while controlling them?

I will still wait until you actually post how either of them can even solo. You should maybe start with Sasuke since maybe thats the best person you can argue against

Sasuke is not the best i can debate just the one i perfer the most

Why this is an obvious thing obito using kamui so useless all he can do is warp witch is he weakness in 2v1 battles

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Bsm naruto shits on the tailed beast like he did before as i said sasuke enton with a kurama cloak shits on them aswell obito warps naruto clone or sasuke no kamui he loses low diff here his only offensive tech beside the bijuu is his downfall
 

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Your difficulty comparison is way off but thats your opinion I guess. I like how your making Naruto look invincible though (BSM) even when its 7 vs 1. Each character has its benefits and can still support Tobi alot to catch Naruto.

But I am interested of you going in depth of how current Naruto can solo.

why you want people to make wall of text for a useless low-diff fight

Naruto takes bijuu sasuke with cloak plus Km clone shits on normal tobi how is it that hard to understand
 

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Sasuke is not the best i can debate just the one i perfer the most

Ok

Why this is an obvious thing obito using kamui so useless all he can do is warp witch is he weakness in 2v1 battles

Are you reading your own statement? It seems like you forgot how much difficulty Bee, Naruto, Guy, and Kakashi went through to even break his Mask. Thats no weakness when Kakashi is not on the field lol.

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Have you forgotten that Tobi place both Renningan and Sharingan on each host and whats controlling (which had a whole chapter for the 4 tails explaining and before via cha[ 565's last pages) is the Outer Path Tobi is using to control them? Then already neglect where I showed scans of him multi tasking his own techs while controlling the Edo's?

Bsm naruto shits on the tailed beast like he did before as i said sasuke enton with a kurama cloak shits on them aswell obito warps naruto clone or sasuke no kamui he loses low diff here his only offensive tech beside the bijuu is his downfall

Except your pulling that statement out of you ass once again when Naruto never solo'd them nor was ALL of the Buijuu's attacking him. Enton get reflect or deflect

why you want people to make wall of text for a useless low-diff fight

Naruto takes bijuu sasuke with cloak plus Km clone shits on normal tobi how is it that hard to understand

Says, out of your ass
 

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Your difficulty comparison is way off but thats your opinion I guess. I like how your making Naruto look invincible though (BSM) even when its 7 vs 1. Each character has its benefits and can still support Tobi alot to catch Naruto.

But I am interested of you going in depth of how current Naruto can solo.


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I will base my opinion on manga scans above and only reffer to BSM Naruto.

It is simple, If BSM Naruto attack first then Tailed beast bomb= gg Edo Jinchurki. Only Masked Man Obito is left by himself and I already explained that Masked Man Obito can't catch Naruto with Kamui but Naruto can lands his blow due to overhelming speed, top notch reaction time and enhanced range of attack.

If Obito along with Edo Jinchurki attack first then Naruto enter Kurama shroud and use beast roar to throw Edo Jinchurki away while he attacks Masked Man Obito with blitz, or Naruto catches Edo Jinchurki with Kurama arms and pull their stakes off, then dash backward to avoid Masked Man Obito. After dealing with Edo Jinchurki BSM Naruto will solos Obito with enhanced range of attack combined with overhelming speed, simple as that.

Edit: Besides If Obito will attack Naruto while controlling Edo Jinchurki as his paths then he may have problem with control and act even worse, loosing faster. Besides The manga didn't show to us that Obito can even fight while controlling edo Jinchurki, so he Can NOT simple.
 
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Ok



Are you reading your own statement? It seems like you forgot how much difficulty Bee, Naruto, Guy, and Kakashi went through to even break his Mask. Thats no weakness when Kakashi is not on the field lol.



Have you forgotten that Tobi place both Renningan and Sharingan on each host and whats controlling (which had a whole chapter for the 4 tails explaining and before via cha[ 565's last pages) is the Outer Path Tobi is using to control them? Then already neglect where I showed scans of him multi tasking his own techs while controlling the Edo's?



Except your pulling that statement out of you ass once again when Naruto never solo'd them nor was ALL of the Buijuu's attacking him. Enton get reflect or deflect



Says, out of your ass

it was only hard because obito wasit trying to attack he just stayed in kamui and let all there attacks fase through him he had no intent to attack because juubi prep

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BM Naruto soloed the bijuu kakashi guy & bee watched he does this again obito is shit useless here as he trys to warp one of them makes his kamui useless like i said Also sasuke giant ass susanoo isnt getting warped anyway obito loses low diff your not even posting arguments obito is shitted on how many times do i got to repeat this Bsm naruto solos add sasuke supa rape
 
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