[Question] Marshall D. Teach vs. Borsalino

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That was completely groundless, Kizaru, from what we have seen had the best display at close range while Akainu's feats involves him not being able outclass or land a hit on a heavily weakened Whitebeard until when the later became completely vulnerable towards all incoming attacks. Much like Whitebeard, Akainu is a power type fighter, he mostly relies on his overwhelming power and lethality to fight. Compared to the other admirals, He's isn't particularly great as far as it concerns raw skills(Reflexes, Striking rate and reactions).

BB clearly had the advantage as far as it concerns power, he could restrain Akainu via Black Hole, he can't do anything without proper foothold no matter how great he is at close range. BB could absorb any incoming attack as Akainu's attacks aren't particularly fast to think that he won't be able to react in time. And he could handicap Akainu by nullifying his ability. I see no reason as to why Akainu would be advantageous here. If it weren't for the fact that BB is way too cocky to fight without letting his guard down, I'd say that the chances of Akainu winning are equal.

Kizaru on the other hand, could get away from the attacks range before BB could land at attack, could launch an attack of his own while being pulled which forces BB to drop the pull in order to defend from the incoming attacks, his attacks are way too fast for BB to counter, his maneuverability is too much of a trouble for him to handle, he packs just as much power if not more than Akainu. Strictly talking from the way how their fighting powers are portrayal, there isn't a single thing in which Akainu looks better than Kizaru except for endurance and lethality.
BB isn't a speedster either, you're not accounting for that. BB is the type of character who trades blows, he's a tank type character. He's not going to be constantly dodging Akainu's attacks.

So for the 3rd time I'll say it again, you absolutely don't want to be eating amplified versions of the most potent offense in the entire manga, absolutely not, its a recipe for disaster. Akainu can create attacks like this [ ] in mere moments. It's not that easy.

If its a battle of outlasting a slugfest I'll choose Akainu > BB, because BB has to eat amplified version of Akainu's attacks and he will recover slower than Akainu.

Akainu tanked punches of this caliber [ ] and responded right away.

BB is rolling in pain from attacks of this level [ ].

If he takes a hit from Akainu he will feel pain beyond anything he's felt and will be rolling around in pain. Akainu will capitalize on it like the hound that he is. He is relentless.

Both are tanks Akainu simply has less openings.


Kizaru once again will have his mobility something he uses a lot from what we've seen, taken away from him. That already takes more away from his fighting style than what Akainu loses. What does Akainu even lose, that any one else fighting BB does not?
 
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BB isn't a speedster either, you're not accounting for that. BB is the type of character who trades blows, he's a tank type character. He's not going to be constantly dodging Akainu's attacks.

So for the 3rd time I'll say it again, you absolutely don't want to be eating amplified versions of the most potent offense in the entire manga, absolutely not, its a recipe for disaster. Akainu can create attacks like this [ ] in mere moments. It's not that easy.
Teach is certainly not fast; But, Why does it matter when he could simply stand there and absorb any and every incoming attack? BB is never a type of fighter who could dodge or evade attacks, he has his darkness to hide behind. The scale or power of an attack matters a little against BB's darkness. Akainu may flood an entire island with manga, it is not going make a difference as Teach will be able to absorb it all. Neither his lethality not his DC can help Akainu get past the Yonko's darkness period.

For someone reason, I've been under the impression that you've been trying to implying that simply sucking in attacks is going to hurt BB. If that were the case, then I am afraid you're wrong. The damage amplifies only when he takes a direct hit, he suffers much more from the attack than what it could regularly do! Any attack that he defends against via darkness will have no effect on him whatsoever; That said, he'll have no trouble rendering Akainu's ability useless.


If its a battle of outlasting a slugfest I'll choose Akainu > BB, because BB has to eat amplified version of Akainu's attacks and he will recover slower than Akainu.
Once again, Teach has his darkness to hide behind, while Akainu has no such a thing. He had to directly deal with quake punches, Akainu will be the one to suffer more. All high-end GGNM moves will overpower Akainu and momentarily incapacitate him which would give enough opening for the Yonko to land more hits which results in his victory.


Akainu tanked punches of this caliber [ ] and responded right away.

BB is rolling in pain from attacks of this level [ ].

If he takes a hit from Akainu he will feel pain beyond anything he's felt and will be rolling around in pain. Akainu will capitalize on it like the hound that he is. He is relentless.
Let's not be totally one-sided, BB is just as much of a tank and he immediately responded and shot Newgate after when he was attack by a quake punch much like Akainu. In fact, BB wasn't exactly in good shape considering the damage he previously sustained from Magellan and WB's fist quack punch. He then took someone more damage from WB and Sengoku and kept fighting an admiral level fighter without slowing down a bit. Akainu, however, was never challenged by a capable fighter after his battle with Newgate. Considering BB's weakness of suffering more pain, I'd say BB is just as much of a monster if not better than Akainu. Much of what you said about BB can be said about Akainu, he's not down right standing back after taking a GGnM punch and fight back a competent fighter like BB. He's not our good old WB to just stand there and not resist the incoming attacks. The doors to the victory will be opened to the person who lands the first hit.


Both are tanks Akainu simply has less openings.
It's the other way around dude, Akainu's movements will be restricted, his attacks will be rendered useless and his ability can be nullified. How would it be BB with more openings? As I said before, if it weren't for BB's attitude, Akainu's chances of winning are clearly 0. BB has perfect counter for his ability, and he completely outclasses him in power department.

Kizaru once again will have his mobility something he uses a lot from what we've seen, taken away from him. That already takes more away from his fighting style than what Akainu loses. What does Akainu even lose, that any one else fighting BB does not?

He loses his foot hold and will be sucked into black hole, how is he fighting normally when he can't even move his legs. He becomes an easier target for attacks such as GGnM punches. Where as, Kizaru won't be loosing anything, he's simply too fast for BB to tag him, he can't properly focus and aim for Kizaru in the fist place.
 

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Don't see it, I actually believe the Quakes to be a good counter to spam techs coming from a distance. I'd favour BB just for this tbh he controls the pace of the fight more than anything.

I don't know if I would rank BB higher on a tier list or anything like that though, I think haki beasts can expose him to an extent.
I don't know I mean kizaru moves at the speed of light, could he not just teleport around him in the air spamming explosive beams
 
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