[Discussion] Marco Vs Fujitora

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Fujitora high diff v_v

Marco isn't beating an Admiral IMO.
 

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Fujitora high-diff.
 

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id give it to fuji... but after 2 yrs marco is probably admiral lvl. but still cannot beat the original trio.
 

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I am making a new post because I made a mistake. Considering that Gorosei stated Marco was the only one who could defeat BB, then Fujitora will defeat pre TS marco with high difficulty. Current Marco vs Fujitora can go either way extreme difficulty. I am basing my arguments on relative power. If Marco> Ace and Ace> Sabo and if Current Sabo can hold his own against an admiral who is using 60 percent of his power, then Marco will be a difficult opponent.
 

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I doubt Ace was above Sabo. He was when he was a kid, but not anymore. Sabo was. A haki user while Ace heavily relied on his df. That for me puts Sabo above Ace.
 

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I place him at low tier of admiral level. Fujitora is mid-tier of admiral level IMO.

Just a thought but if pre ts marco is low tier admiral level then wouldn't current marco be mid or higher?
 

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People tend to overrate Marco a lot. Sure he is strong but he can't beat an Admiral for sht.

All he did at Marineford was get #rekt. He kicked Kizaru and the latter came back in like no time, without injuries and continued trolling him. Marco was also seen being overwhelmed by the likes of Akainu and Garp. So to conclude this, pre-TS Marco is certainly not beating an admiral. And I think that post-TS the case is the same. He will probably only give them a hard(er) time. After all anyone proficient enough with Haki can end Marco if he isn't careful. v_v
 

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Just a thought but if pre ts marco is low tier admiral level then wouldn't current marco be mid or higher?

I would wait to see what he did over the TS. It's kind of obvious that he trained but I'll just wait to see what happens.
 

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People tend to overrate Marco a lot. Sure he is strong but he can't beat an Admiral for sht.

All he did at Marineford was get #rekt. He kicked Kizaru and the latter came back in like no time, without injuries and continued trolling him. Marco was also seen being overwhelmed by the likes of Akainu and Garp. So to conclude this, pre-TS Marco is certainly not beating an admiral. And I think that post-TS the case is the same. He will probably only give them a hard(er) time. After all anyone proficient enough with Haki can end Marco if he isn't careful. v_v

You forgot to say 'in your opinion'. I don't think he's overrated , he was the strongest member of WB's crew (other then WB) , and he's currently leading them actually. The Gorosei said he's one of few people that can stop BB , a Yonko. Even based on feats alone he's pretty powerful. I'm pretty sure he's even stronger post ts.
 

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You forgot to say 'in your opinion'. I don't think he's overrated , he was the strongest member of WB's crew (other then WB) , and he's currently leading them actually. The Gorosei said he's one of few people that can stop BB , a Yonko. Even based on feats alone he's pretty powerful. I'm pretty sure he's even stronger post ts.

You're right. But, I didn't say he isn't strong. Quite the contrary actually. But especially pre-TS he could not beat an Admiral. That's for granted. If he could, he would have done it. Now post-TS, I would like to see some of his progress before judging how he'd fair against Admirals. To say that he still loses is indeed an opinion, but no one can be sure until we see what he's capable of. Until then we can speculate I guess. :win:


Oh and what makes Marco so dangerous is obviously his DF. It's probably why everyone, including the Gorosei, rate him so highly. Haki is definitely a weakness of his, as it was shown when Garp sent him flying v_v

So basically the only virtual way of Marco beating people on Admiral level is if he trains his Haki more. And tbh, I can see that happening but not to a great extent.
 

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Marco wins with high diff.

Marco fought on par with Kizaru, and I believe Kizaru, who was IMO weakest out of previous trio, is stronger now. +, Marco likely get stronger during time skip.
 

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People tend to overrate Marco a lot. Sure he is strong but he can't beat an Admiral for sht.

All he did at Marineford was get #rekt. He kicked Kizaru and the latter came back in like no time, without injuries and continued trolling him. Marco was also seen being overwhelmed by the likes of Akainu and Garp. So to conclude this, pre-TS Marco is certainly not beating an admiral. And I think that post-TS the case is the same. He will probably only give them a hard(er) time. After all anyone proficient enough with Haki can end Marco if he isn't careful. v_v
In the manga he wasn't overwhelmed by Akainu...
 

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Fujitora high-very high difficulty. I place Marco slightly weaker than Kizaru and imo Fujitora is slightly stronger than Kizaru, so yeah
 
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