[VS] Marco and Doflamingo vs Mihawk
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Maybe.
That makes every Yonkou except Kaidou now where someone has said Mihawk would beat them with ease.
BB was not a Yonkou then. Plus BB is not your typical all rounder anyway, Mihawk is a nightmare for him as he holds no advantage with the yami against Mihawk but instead BB feels more pain from a character who is most lethal to begin with. That halves the fighting power BB would have against a DF user. Mihawk happens to be a top tier without one so this is the worst fight BB could get
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You just said post war, post war BB was a Yonkou. Taking away the Yami's DF nullifying ability doesn't halve BB's fighting efficiency as a whole, it doesn't even halve YYnM's efficiency because it still has Black Hole and gravitational pull so even if there's no fruit to nullify it can still be used offensively.
On top of that his other fruit is the strongest paramecia that belonged to the strongest man, you saying Mihawk would still win over BB if he only had that fruit to use implies Mihawk'd beat WB,with no health problems as it's BB's healthy body with that power now, as well.
Except I already pointed out he takes in more pain, which is a negative. Take away the DF nullification and factor in how he takes in way more pain against one of the most lethal characters in the show, and yes his overall fighting ability takes a massive hit. Whether it's half or not, that's just semantics.
Irrelevant. You make it sound like Teach can mid diff other Yonkou with this explanation.
Mihawk is a top tier on the general level of other top tiers, except he has no DF and is one of the most lethal characters in the show. If saying Mihawk can beat BB is something out of this world, then that means BB literally can not even be pushed to high diff against any top tier DF user because BB holds tons more advantages against them.
Only way you have an issue with this statement is if you believe Mihawk is not a top tier, which is fine if you just outright state that. But if you believe he is a top tier, you don't make much sense.
Also it's worth noting Post War BB was not even at his current level, that makes this fight even more one sided. Which is why I said he would get diced up no problem. (Btw why would I say Post War BB to talk about Yonkou BB, when I could just say Current BB?)
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Thats tough, I don't know who would win, but I'd assume mihawk loses doflamingo dies and marco finishes the fight barely alive.
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I think it's so cool that Mihawk can beat everyone no diff without any feats.
slice and dice, swing and chop.
Doffy, Big Mom, Blackbeard, Marco. It doesn't matter. He kills them all.
Mihawk secretly goes to Raftel 2 times a week for a quiet picnic, because nobody is there and not because he wants to find One Piece. That's how strong he is.
Mihawk once made the mistake to sharpen his sword, and when he wanted to put it at away it cut through the sheath and fell through the world.
But seriously guys, this needs to stop. This is just based on a title. And it's even conflicting with some titles other people have but that doesn't seem to matter. World's strongest man/creature. Or yonkou who are the 4 strongest pirates on the sea. But Mihawk's swordsman title always trumps that somehow. As soon as someone steps near a sword, AH ! Mihawk has him beat.
But Mihawk hasn't shown anything yet, He didn't impress against Vista or Jozu. He couldn't even test his power against WB. His biggest feat so far is cutting a giant chunk of ice, and I think Zoro and Law outdid him in that area last 2 arcs.
Mihawk is no god and he will be dethroned soon (in One Piece terms) because Zoro is after his title. So he will have a big moment where he can't keep up anymore and the gap becomes clear. But the only thing to create a gap is if someone beats him. And who is left to do that according to the people here ? And what if Zoro is the one who beats him. Does that put Zoro on a even higher level ? At yonkou level ?
If you look at it like that the power scaling doesn't make any sense.
slice and dice, swing and chop.
Doffy, Big Mom, Blackbeard, Marco. It doesn't matter. He kills them all.
Mihawk secretly goes to Raftel 2 times a week for a quiet picnic, because nobody is there and not because he wants to find One Piece. That's how strong he is.
Mihawk once made the mistake to sharpen his sword, and when he wanted to put it at away it cut through the sheath and fell through the world.
But seriously guys, this needs to stop. This is just based on a title. And it's even conflicting with some titles other people have but that doesn't seem to matter. World's strongest man/creature. Or yonkou who are the 4 strongest pirates on the sea. But Mihawk's swordsman title always trumps that somehow. As soon as someone steps near a sword, AH ! Mihawk has him beat.
But Mihawk hasn't shown anything yet, He didn't impress against Vista or Jozu. He couldn't even test his power against WB. His biggest feat so far is cutting a giant chunk of ice, and I think Zoro and Law outdid him in that area last 2 arcs.
Mihawk is no god and he will be dethroned soon (in One Piece terms) because Zoro is after his title. So he will have a big moment where he can't keep up anymore and the gap becomes clear. But the only thing to create a gap is if someone beats him. And who is left to do that according to the people here ? And what if Zoro is the one who beats him. Does that put Zoro on a even higher level ? At yonkou level ?
If you look at it like that the power scaling doesn't make any sense.
Yo that was a quality post not even gonna lie, had me rolling.
His portrayal hasn't been great but it just doesn't add up if he isn't exactly on the same level as any other top tier. Zoro's endgame opponent wouldn't be someone lingering around Doflamingo level, that's just absurd (even if he doesn't end up the endgame, the intention is clearly there).
Not to mention there are hints to him being Admiral level aside from his title. During the war he was used to hype Jozu when he attacked WB. Only the cream of the crop could be used in that scene to hype the commanders, which is why an Admiral Kizaru and Mihawk were paralleled side by side to hype up Marco and Jozu. That is pointing to him being on that Admiral level.
Either way if you think he can give Yonkous and Admirals tough battles, then he can take down BB, unless you think BB is so much above other Yonkous and Admirals. If you think BB would need extreme diff to defeat other DF top tiers than Mihawk still beats him because he can give those other top tiers good fights without any advantages over them, when BB already struggles to defeat them despite having an ability that can completely nullify a large chunk of their offense. Most definitely he takes down Post War BB the one that just recently acquired the Gura, if you can't agree with that, then you don't agree with yourself.
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I agree..
Shanks > Mihawk
IMO
And oh yo, imagine if Shiliew ended up getting the Diamond DF (due to BB and co. defeating Jozu and taking his DF).. then when BB and Shanks end up fighting, Mihawk is there to help Shanks and the Red Hair pirates.. then Shiliew kills Mihawk..
Later the SH's go up against the Blackbeard pirates and Zoro vs Shiliew happens. (Zoro wins, cutting diamond and killing the man who just recently defeated Mihawk, thus Zoro becoming the World's Greatest Swordsman without technically having to fight his former Sensei Dracule Mihawk.)
Imagine.. lol
Yup the Shanks is not a swordsman because haki theory but Shiliew is a swordsman with a diamond devil fruit bs strikes again. Double standard is terrible as always just because of avoiding the plain truth of Shanks being portrayed as nothing else than a rival in sword to Mihawk
Oh and by the way, of course Zoro will end up being "yonko level" end of serie. Was it supposed to come off as a surprise with his portrayal?
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I never said "Shanks is not a swordsman "... but just because he is, doesn't mean Mihawk > Shanks in an all out fight to the death.. it just simply means Mihawk is better in swordsmanship. (Or better yet, was , at the time of "receiving" the WGS title.)
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mihawk wasn't at all interested in being there or in really stopping the pirates. i mean for someone on par with a yonko he didn't do anything. he sent a shockwave at whitebeard, tested luffys luck out of curiosity, and then somehow ended up fighting dofflamingo.
marineford isnt a good example of mohawks power imo