Many theories but...

[Frankenstein]

Many theories have been made since yesterday about how Madara managed to survive. I am not going to comment about which one seems more likely to be true and which not but what I don't get is :

Did Hashirama leave Madara where he was? What kind of "brother" does that?

One could say that he collapsed too. But what happened when he regained his senses? Didn't he notice that Madara's body was gone? If he did then wasn't he confused? How did the body move?

I can't find a proper explanation for this. I just can't accept that Hashirama just left Madara's body there to rot. Can you?

If anyone has any idea please enlighten me.
(don't post thread links in my thread, I am not gonna read them and I am gonna report you for spam)

p.s. : The only one we have seen performing such tricks is Muu with that body-splitting technique. If Madara knew that too then he knows every technique apparently.

 

[foxyladyland]

answered
hashirama left madara's body there because kurama woke up and started destroying stuff

so hashi and mito sealed kurama

 

[Sensational]

I though about this too, him saying he was sure madara was dead would mean that he got back up before him. But at this point idk

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

I have thought of it too. But, as things go, Hashirama most likely left his body. . . . . . :erm:

 

[AlphaScythian]

Those are valid questions, but.
If madara came prepared and was planning to troll hashirama all along then its not much of a problem to fool him.
Madara was surely capable of making some clones too. He could use a clone like substitution, remeber how bee fooled sasuke with MS.
It would be a childs play for madara.

 

[foxyladyland]

OR he was actually in some sort of genjutsu when he stabbed madara is when it was cast probably ..idk
but he said no matter whether youre his own kids "if you tried to harm the village , he would not forgive them"

 

[ChiefHermit]

just wait and see for yourself
nobody can enlighten you until kishi reveals more of the story
theories are nice but useless
lawl

 

[foxyladyland]

OR madara already planned things out and already had a ZETSU to retrieve his body if need be.

XD

 

[6thpathsage]

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hashirama left madara's body there because kurama woke up and started destroying stuff

so hashi and mito sealed kurama

Yeah back up from konoha including Mito, tobirama and others

Tobirama: let's go brother!

Nine tails: roar

Hashirama: i cannot let you roam any longer nine tail, Mito! The scroll I'm gonna seal him

Mito: I can do it!

Nine tails : fuuuuuu

Hashi pass out and they take him back to the village!

Edit: There is a plothole though, knowing hashi would have come back to bury his hubby's body. Plothole or hashirama lost all feelings for madara there and he never truly cared for madara.

Op: really interesting theory.

 

[Creedo]

p.s. : The only one we have seen performing such tricks is Muu with that body-splitting technique. If Madara knew that too then he knows every technique apparently.

Well there is a possibility that he knew this jutsu, Tsuchikage had a flashback during Gokage vs Madara, when he and 3rd Tsuchikage fought with Madara and lost, he said they need to obey the leaf and stuff, so maybe he copied it in there. Only possibility, I hope it is something better than that in actual story.

 

[Frankenstein]

Those are valid questions, but.
If madara came prepared and was planning to troll hashirama all along then its not much of a problem to fool him.
Madara was surely capable of making some clones too. He could use a clone like substitution, remeber how bee fooled sasuke with MS.
It would be a childs play for madara.

So you are saying he used a genjutsu, he was stabbed inside the genjutsu, then the genjutsu stops and he has prepared a substitution jutsu beforehand so that Hashirama sees a body before him.

And Hashirama buried the clone while Madara was drinking tea. That's too far man.
How did Madara get the wound then? Did he stab himself? LOL

 

[Creedo]

OR madara already planned things out and already had a ZETSU to retrieve his body if need be.

XD

Zetsu was created from Hashi's cells and Madara fought with Hashi in order to get those cells so there is no way Zetsu was around before this battle.

 

[AlphaScythian]

So you are saying he used a genjutsu, he was stabbed inside the genjutsu, then the genjutsu stops and he has prepared a substitution jutsu beforehand so that Hashirama sees a body before him.
And Hashirama buried the clone while Madara was drinking tea. That's too far man.
How did Madara get the wound then? Did he stab himself? LOL

No madara got wounded. He used weak genjutsu, to hide his EMS and to divert the blow from the heart. Then hashi most likely collapsed and madara placed a clone in stead of his body.

 

[foxyladyland]

Zetsu was created from Hashi's cells and Madara fought with Hashi in order to get those cells so there is no way Zetsu was around before this battle.

there is a way plausible: Madara has fought Hashi lots of times so it seems logically that he could have already picked up some DNA.

 

[Frankenstein]

No madara got wounded. He used weak genjutsu, to hide his EMS and to divert the blow from the heart. Then hashi most likely collapsed and madara placed a clone in stead of his body.

Sure sure I am with you until that point. But then Hashirama came to his senses and did what I said in my previous post? I really can't accept that Hashirama buried a clonde and didn't realize anything.
Don't get me wrong, your explanation is good but I don't want to see such a thing. It would be to cheap.

 

[foxyladyland]

Sure sure I am with you until that point. But then Hashirama came to his senses and did what I said in my previous post? I really can't accept that Hashirama buried a clonde and didn't realize anything.
Don't get me wrong, your explanation is good but I don't want to see such a thing. It would be to cheap.

didn't burry him at all,
Hashi said that anyone who attacks the leaf , he will never forgive them even his own kids

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sure sure I am with you until that point. But then Hashirama came to his senses and did what I said in my previous post? I really can't accept that Hashirama buried a clonde and didn't realize anything.
Don't get me wrong, your explanation is good but I don't want to see such a thing. It would be to cheap.

Look i get what ur saying, but nothing we can do here. Madara survived fact.
Either hashi didnt bury him, either he went to take care of kurama or to carve those statues, either he collapsed, all of this would give time to make a clone.
There are plenty plausible answers at this point.

 

[Creedo]

there is a way plausible: Madara has fought Hashi lots of times so it seems logically that he could have already picked up some DNA.

Well probably he never got a portion of his DNA. Madara fought with Hashi only to obtain it, I think if he had got it earlier he wouldnt try to kill him as he porbably still had a bond with him even if it was small. Madara's goal after leaving the village was only fusing Hashi's DNA in him, not the destruction of Leaf or killing Hashi. Yet, it is only an assumption.