[Theory] Mangekyo Sharingan

[nameless1]

Hi guys.
IDK if this was ever pointed out but i have some theory about MS and why it's different for each uchiha.

Let's start with itachi

we know that he is very skilled in illusions, other than Tsukuyomi, in some pages he is reffered as best genjutsu user known.
he can use multiple genjutsu as easily as moving his finger (in fight with naruto during save kazekage mission)

During naruto - sasuke fight in valley of end we see in flashbacks history of sasuke's childhood and his training with grand fireball. somewhere in this flashback after sasuke's failure his father says something like "no wonder... you're not itachi after all" meaning that itachi at his age was already able to use katon jutsus.

now for sasuke

after countless failures he is finally able to do grand fireball at very young age(remember kakashi's surprised words during survival training "he shouldn't be able/have enough chakra to do this")

next is his shape manipulation skills - i.e. jutsus created from chidori: needles, flow of current, chidori blade(even orochimaru was surprised seeing this)

Lets assume these are their natural talents/gifts.

And here is actual theory

Amaterasu is known as ultimate level of fire jutsu
Tsukuyomi = ultimate genjustu
Some people on forum said that sasuke's second MS skill is manipulation of black flames, like when he put down the flames in B fight and guarding using enton

Does it ring any bell?

My theory is that MS is simply upgrade of one's natural talents to the very limits

comments are welcome and if you find it a total BS let's blame it on "weed talking"
P.S.
i have some thoughts about susanoo and latest chapter's Madara's words of where obito is "between this and other world"

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

I like your theory it seems legit +rep

 

[Normal fanboy]

SO confused to what this has to with MS

 

[Uzawak]

Not a bad theory however Kamui kind of disproves this. Also, Kotoamatsukami is a higher level of Genjutsu then Tsukuyomi.

 

[Simple Math]

yeah i think so

 

[venuboppudi]

then how will you explain Obito?

 

[nameless1]

i focused on sasuke/itachi coz we know their history best of all uchiha
about KA being higher lvl than tsukuyomi my point is that we don't really know much of shisui's characteristics. We know that KA is ultimate gen to control someone i assumed that MAYBE shisui's "gift" was some kind influence on others much like naruto's ability to change ppl. if i'm not mistaken itachi said it himself that naruto is similar to shisui.
about obito we know a little more.
he's been pictured as someone who had a habit to be somewhere else than he was supposed to be(kakashi gaiden first pages), he was saved by chance when he was careless. it's like he had a "gift" (yeah i'm with gifts today ;D) to cheat death. even after sasuke deidara fight when akatsuki talked about it he somone said that he was always good at running or surviving i dont really remember
it was speculated that he awakend MS at moment of "death" and warped himself from under the rocks=yet another time cheated death

 

[Taluannhan]

It makes sense now. Since Obito sucked before activating his sharingan, therefore his MS technique must deffinietly be a sucking one xD

 

[nameless1]

It makes sense now. Since Obito sucked before activating his sharingan, therefore his MS technique must deffinietly be a sucking one xD

good onexd

 

[Makoto]

Excellent theory. I would've never thought of that myself.

 

[niblack89]

Well Sasuke is a better fire users than Itachi. The others is still kinda off Shusi was a master at speed wouldn't he gain a space-time. Orbito was a good fire user wouldn't he gain a Amaterasu ?

I bet you was gonna clean up your room but you got high and went on NB.

 

[nameless1]

Well Sasuke is a better fire users than Itachi. The others is still kinda off Shusi was a master at speed wouldn't he gain a space-time. Orbito was a good fire user wouldn't he gain a Amaterasu ?

I bet you was gonna clean up your room but you got high and went on NB.

i' ve cleaned my room and found some herbs in process so You were almost right in this.
right now i'm out of any ideas for reply.



You just wait for next time i'll do some cleaning

 

[Takos]

I don't think so. It rather depends on the eyes and not the user. Just like both Kakashi and Obito have Kamui.
Another Pole, hm? We're not that common here. Hello.

 

[nameless1]

I don't think so. It rather depends on the eyes and not the user. Just like both Kakashi and Obito have Kamui.
Another Pole, hm? We're not that common here. Hello.

hello to You too/ siema

But who awakened sharingan in first place?

Well Sasuke is a better fire users than Itachi. The others is still kinda off Shusi was a master at speed wouldn't he gain a space-time. Orbito was a good fire user wouldn't he gain a Amaterasu ?

I bet you was gonna clean up your room but you got high and went on NB.

there is a difference between talent and skill. as far as we know obito used guokakyu when he was older than both sasuke and itachi. remember that sasuke could use it before even academy graduation and maybe even earlier, itachi too. first time we see obito with it is during chuunin exam. it's true sasuke failed many times but he was a total child then.

about shisui being master of speed i can't argue with it.
but isn't lee master of taijutsu? was he born with this talent? NO his talent is hard work as guy said. if his sensei was someone with great ninjutsu he probably would work as hard to master it.