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[Illuminater]

Sharingan needed help from Kishimoto to be OP

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Sharingan needed help from Kishimoto to be OP

So did everything else. That's the whole point.

 

[Angelofchaos179]

Tenesigan=Sharigan rinnegan>Ms

 

[Nick01]

Himawari>Mangekyo Sharingan

 

[Tyris]

Lol where did you get this from? Sasuke was t gifted wth Amateratsu from Itachi. The was a one time implanted jutsu meant to go off when Sasuke's Sharingan met with Tobi's as a precaution to keep his little brother safe from his grasp. The genjutsu he used on Danzo want Tsukuyomi just a Sharingan genjutsu. Even Kakashi had access to this when he fought Zabuza. XD

Danzo said himself his MS genjutsu is missing the time stoppage and was significantly weaker than Itachi's.. why else did he not speak of it as a regular sharingan genjutsu? It even is portrayed as tsukiyomi like Itachi's during bee and duo vs kabuto not as regular sharingan genjutsu.. it's just weak af imo

That aside: "The genjutsu he used on Danzo want Tsukuyomi just a Sharingan genjutsu. Even Kakashi had access to this when he fought Zabuza." Is all I needed to see lol but ty.

And even if not a weak tsukiyomi(danzo fight) shouldn't it stand as more than a regular genjutsu(itachi, crow, ama') since it wasn't seen as a basic genjutsu to him and only the hand sharingan was regarded as a basic genjutsu by obito?

 

[LoZelda101]

Danzo said himself his MS genjutsu is missing the time stoppage and was significantly weaker than Itachi's.. why else did he not speak of it as a regular sharingan genjutsu? It even is portrayed as tsukiyomi like Itachi's during bee and duo vs kabuto not as regular sharingan genjutsu.. it's just weak af imo

That aside: "The genjutsu he used on Danzo want Tsukuyomi just a Sharingan genjutsu. Even Kakashi had access to this when he fought Zabuza." Is all I needed to see lol but ty.

And even if not a weak tsukiyomi(danzo fight) shouldn't it stand as more than a regular genjutsu(itachi, crow, ama') since it wasn't seen as a basic genjutsu to him and only the hand sharingan was regarded as a basic genjutsu by obito?

Eh, i was trying to convince others that he doesn't have tsukuyomi, so yesteraday i was going to make a thread about why he doesn't have it however i went back and it doesn't directly state sasuke lacks tsukuyomi, the way danzo/tobi worded their statement just means sasuke's gen doesn't have time manipulation <--- which is equally as valid as saying he doesn't have it. i remember reading some thread on reddit stating it showed sasuke using MS gen in both eyes instead of just right eye, but i couldn't find it the chapter of it. so i don't know what to believe, did the databook4 ever mention sasuke having tsukuyomi?

Ama' was litrally given to him by Itachi, along with the weak ass tsukiyomi he hit danzo and bee with.

His manipulation and extinguishing of ama' is what makes his MS unique: Blaze Release was new to series as it wasn't just producing ama as his brother's did..

I say weak ass in regards to Le Sauce's tsukiyomi for the tech itself. . just the (2nd)user not being his uber op brother although he takes the other dojutsu to new heights.

Also people need to stop downplaying the Uchiha bloodline... it makes no sense for Uchiha to produce few sharingan when as a clan wielding the eye to control bijuu weren't allowed to fight kyuubi... seems like they(konoha) feared basic ninja if sharingan is soo uncommon.. only MS was rare... it's not like the dominant Uchiha blood went on standby after joining the leaf..

MS>narutoverse since Lord Crow soloed Kakashi, kurenai, asuma.. and then every panel and scene afterwards.

It is the juubi's eye diluted af anyway and is still overly haxx..

lol, tried the samething. people refuse to believe sasuke's amaterasu came from itachi. otherwise it wouldn't make sense for his other eye to be completely useless if his left eye were removed.

 

[Umari Senju]

Danzo said himself his MS genjutsu is missing the time stoppage and was significantly weaker than Itachi's.. why else did he not speak of it as a regular sharingan genjutsu? It even is portrayed as tsukiyomi like Itachi's during bee and duo vs kabuto not as regular sharingan genjutsu.. it's just weak af imo

That aside: "The genjutsu he used on Danzo want Tsukuyomi just a Sharingan genjutsu. Even Kakashi had access to this when he fought Zabuza." Is all I needed to see lol but ty.

And even if not a weak tsukiyomi(danzo fight) shouldn't it stand as more than a regular genjutsu(itachi, crow, ama') since it wasn't seen as a basic genjutsu to him and only the hand sharingan was regarded as a basic genjutsu by obito?

Eh, i was trying to convince others that he have tsukuyomi, so yesteraday i was going to make a thread about why he doesn't have it however i went back and it doesn't directly state sasuke lacks tsukuyomi, the way danzo/tobi worded their statement just means sasuke's gen doesn't have time manipulation <--- which is equally as valid as saying he doesn't have it. i remember reading some thread on reddit stating it showed sasuke using MS gen in both eyes instead of just right eye, but i couldn't find it the chapter of it. so i don't know what to believe, did the databook4 ever mention sasuke having tsukuyomi?


lol, tried the samething. people refuse to believe sasuke's amaterasu came from itachi. otherwise it wouldn't make sense for his other eye to be completely useless if his left eye were removed.

You two are completely missing the point and yours is not proof but a theory. I never stated Sasuke didn't have Tsukuyomi. He does. All Uchiha who awaken the Mangenkyo do. But these were not given to him by Itachi. So I assume you think Madara got his Tsukyomi from Izuna or Kaguya or Hagoromo or some such. Does that mean Sasuke got his Susanoo from Itachi as well.

Tsukuyomi
Amateratsu
Susanoo
Iganami
Izanagi

These are all abilities granted by the MS they aren't given to the user. Some simply excell particular areas of the MS.

Madara-Susanoo
Itachi-Tsukuyomi
Sasuke-Amateratsu

They simply aren't as proficient as the other aforementioned in said field.

This is what Danzo was referring to not that he got it from Itachi.

 

[leezagboola]

The Sharingan always was the most developed technique, with a lot of variation being added compared to other techiniques which were almost forgotten (byakugan) and I agree back in part 1 jutsu's had hand signs and there no seals, but part 2 it just became a wave of a hand or an eye squint and anything could be done.
But that became the focus of the manga so what can you do :hmm:

 

[Uchihakil]

PEople still denying the Uchiha sharigan is all powerful.

Its sad, double kamui, kotoamatsukami, tsukiyomi are oneshotters, the level of haxness is high

 

[LoZelda101]

You two are completely missing the point and yours is not proof but a theory. I never stated Sasuke didn't have Tsukuyomi. He does. All Uchiha who awaken the Mangenkyo do. But these were not given to him by Itachi. So I assume you think Madara got his Tsukyomi from Izuna or Kaguya or Hagoromo or some such. Does that mean Sasuke got his Susanoo from Itachi as well.

Tsukuyomi
Amateratsu
Susanoo
Iganami
Izanagi

These are all abilities granted by the MS they aren't given to the user. Some simply excell particular areas of the MS.

Madara-Susanoo
Itachi-Tsukuyomi
Sasuke-Amateratsu

They simply aren't as proficient as the other aforementioned in said field.

This is what Danzo was referring to not that he got it from Itachi.

"he doesn't have it, however i went back and it doesn't directly state sasuke lacks tsukuyomi"

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