Manga Proof: Naruto has Lost his RSM!

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after seeing some good arguments that were supported by scans, i'm officially on the fence about it now. Whether Naruto still has it or not, i would like it very much if the gaiden confirms it.
Already confirmed in Gaiden chapter 4. :)

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Already confirmed in Gaiden chapter 4. :)

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not saying it wasn't the case mind you, but i'm hoping for some dialogue to do that. Naruto said he was only going to use just a little bit of juice against Shin, but going RMS would be overkill.
 

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Naruto was in RSM against Sasuke in VOTE but I don't remember him using any other beast except Kurama U_U

OK, if you're very surefire that Naruto really lost his RSM, thats mean Sasuke can beat him. And he is nowhere near his Kaguya and VOTE2 arc level in power. I dont have a problem to admitted that.
 

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not saying it wasn't the case mind you, but i'm hoping for some dialogue to do that. Naruto said he was only going to use just a little bit of juice against Shin, but going RMS would be overkill.
Naruto has three stages of RMS.

RSM(Kicked gudodama and revived guy)
RSM + KCM(Gaiden Chapter 4)
RSM + All bijuu chakras(Symbols,Gudodama,etc)

He didn't go full power, trust me. :)
 

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Naruto has three stages of RMS.

RSM(Kicked gudodama and revived guy)
RSM + KCM(Gaiden Chapter 4)
RSM + All bijuu chakras(Symbols,Gudodama,etc)

He didn't go full power, trust me. :)
when you put it that way, it might have actually been confirmed already.
 

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not saying it wasn't the case mind you, but i'm hoping for some dialogue to do that. Naruto said he was only going to use just a little bit of juice against Shin, but going RMS would be overkill.

Naruto went to RSM+BM and he used a little bit of power. All Naruto did is use Chakra Arms.
 

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Naruto went to RSM+BM and he used a little bit of power. All Naruto did is use Chakra Arms.
Yeah, imagine is he started firing TBBRS or Kurama Avatar Yin/Yang Rasenshuriken GG shin and forest XD
 

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Naruto was in RSM against Sasuke in VOTE but I don’t remember him using any other beast except Kurama U_U
He first Manifested it IN Battle with Kaguya after both Him and Sasuke recovered from each own injuries at the hands of Madara,they each received a blessing from the SO6P Sasuke the Rinnegan and Naruto all the powers of the body.
 

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Ok so I guess everybody didn't see the Last Movie Hagaromos nephew Toneri constantly created TSB when he lost them he created more...... Mindblowing isn't it....


And you must be blind like Itachi was after using ISG to not see the difference between the markings from RSM eye markings and SM-BSM eye markings in the Last he had RSM
 
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i dont think so but it might have lost some power cause he has no training in that field
 

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Naruto has three stages of RMS.

RSM(Kicked gudodama and revived guy)
RSM + KCM(Gaiden Chapter 4)
RSM + All bijuu chakras(Symbols,Gudodama,etc)

He didn't go full power, trust me. :)

Three stages of RSM? Why don't you and your little buddies log off already? That 'orb kicking' IS "The Sage of the Six Path Mode Or Rikoudo Sage Mode" and that's it. The second cloak isn't RSM; it's a result of the amalgamation of all Bijuu chakra and RSM that produces the TSBs as well. And there is no such thing as any Avatar above BM. No such thing.

Jesus ****ing Christ!
 

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awesome thread...

nice to have you back
you made me post after a long time bud!
 

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Nothing wrong in fact not having RSM works in Naruto's favor. It means he's that powerful on his own and not because of the free gift from Hagoromo U_U.

Good point never thought about how it like that. Just thought RSM was cool AF didn't want him not to have it but if he is just as strong with out it Kudos to Naruto, but answer me this how did he pull moon boys spell from hinata
 

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Naruto's standard sage mode is represented by the orange markings around his eyes as seen below.
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His Rikudou Sage Mode lacks the orange markings around the eye and glowing of skin whilst in chakra mode as seen below.
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Naruto has a base RSM (without chakra cloak) as the databook confirms below, Naruto can use RSM without cloak,gudodama,etc.
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InB4 people ask about the lack of Gudodama,Magatama,etc.

In Naruto Gaiden Chapter 4, Naruto simply utilized Kurama's chakra and not all the bijuu(1-8). Gudodama requires all elements which Naruto/Kurama alone don't have. The nine magatama represents the nine bijuu and the rinnegan symbol represents unity.

His mode in chapter four wasn't a full powered RSM, as that requires all nine bijuu chakras.

InB4 people say Naruto lost the bijuu chakra.

Naruto is the meeting ground for the bijuu, as stated by hagoromo. Their power is permanent, If he should ever need their chakra he could simply call a psyche meeting.
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Can't deny Mangafacts! :)

Great rebutle can't argue with that.
 

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In order for Naruto to go into SO6P mode Naruto has to used all the Tailed Beast chakra together, now their hasten’t been a reason for Naruto to call that power. He just now used Kurama’s power for the first time in years. If theirs no need to use a sledge hammer why use it when a claw hammer will do.

Exactly
 

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Three stages of RSM? Why don't you and your little buddies log off already? That 'orb kicking' IS "The Sage of the Six Path Mode Or Rikoudo Sage Mode" and that's it. The second cloak isn't RSM; it's a result of the amalgamation of all Bijuu chakra and RSM that produces the TSBs as well. And there is no such thing as any Avatar above BM. No such thing.

Jesus ****ing Christ!

First the second cloak displays like in base RSM the same eyes without the pigmentation that SM and BSM usually displays.

Please message admin and have them delete your account you obviously don't know jack about what your talking about in regards to RSM so don't embarrass yourself further
 

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Three stages of RSM? Why don't you and your little buddies log off already? That 'orb kicking' IS "The Sage of the Six Path Mode Or Rikoudo Sage Mode" and that's it. The second cloak isn't RSM; it's a result of the amalgamation of all Bijuu chakra and RSM that produces the TSBs as well. And there is no such thing as any Avatar above BM. No such thing.

Jesus ****ing Christ!

Databook disagrees.
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Databook translation.
'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!


← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'



The cloaked form is an amplified version yes, but it's still Six Paths Sage Mode, in the Manga Madara even referred to that Naruto as being in the Senjutsu of Six Paths (Six Paths Sage Mode), this amalgamation your talking about is only possible with RSM in the first place, as per the Databook, and no pigmentation explicitly means it's RSM, there's no room for argument here, both the normal TSB kicking Naruto and the cloaked one are RSM, period.

Bold. I have no idea what you're going on about there, but Ashura Avatar Naruto anyone? That's easily above any normal BM Avatar lol.
 

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First, there is no logical reason for him to have lost RSM. Second your thread is a logical fallacy you show pictures and expect him to take his strongest form when facing opponents beneath his skill level and try to use this as evidence he has lost RSM, ever hear of " Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". This same argument can be made for every character in the entire Naruto series such as "Sasuke has shown now rinnegan feats in the latest chapters hence he has lost the ability". Try this on any character in the series and you would get the same conclusion you brought yourself towards in the thread, hence the beginning argument is wrong and hence no, Naruto not showing RSM does not mean that he has lost that ability.
 

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TRUE - Same with Goku when he doesn't use his Super Saiyan 4 or his strongest form immediately in a battle...he go through stages too and only show his best form when necessary.


First, there is no logical reason for him to have lost RSM. Second your thread is a logical fallacy you show pictures and expect him to take his strongest form when facing opponents beneath his skill level and try to use this as evidence he has lost RSM, ever hear of " Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". This same argument can be made for every character in the entire Naruto series such as "Sasuke has shown now rinnegan feats in the latest chapters hence he has lost the ability". Try this on any character in the series and you would get the same conclusion you brought yourself towards in the thread, hence the beginning argument is wrong and hence no, Naruto not showing RSM does not mean that he has lost that ability.
 
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