Manga Proof: Naruto has Lost his RSM!

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Hot thread, I just read it all, I mean all including all the post. Well, I disagree with the op. Naruto still have RSM

How? In the last he used this

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BSM and not RSM, I rest my case U_U

I guess that further prove that Naruto the Last is more canon if Naruto did indeed lost his RSM

Indeed it does.
 

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If what you say is correct then somehow Ashura and Indra have never died, I mean the real ones. That also makes likes of Minato, Tobirama overwhelmingly OP.

Why merely focus on pigments? why not the actual eye pattern? wouldn't lessening of pigments be a sign of more proficiency? Lesser the proficiency more are the frog features is what we know from the manga.

IF the last is Canon as you said before then that further confirms that Naruto only has BSM

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because why would he not use RSM on Toneri?

This Chapter Page 12 Shows Naruto's Normal Sage Mode

Then in Gaiden Chapter 4 Page 4 Naruto is shown with BSM with the same eyes only seen in RSM Mode so it's clearly BSM with RSM traits and isn't refined like you seem to want to think
 

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That's BSM U_U

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I said six paths flight, not six paths sage mode. Six paths flight only requires rikudou chakara. It doesn't require you to actually be in the full mode! Let us not forget that Naruto can use six paths power even when he is not in RSM as shown by when he kicked Madara's gudoudama and used lava style rasenshuriken.

Besides, the point about Sasuke still having rinnegan still proves that rikudou chakara doesn't just run out. Kakashi's ran out because Obito was just lending it to Kakashi and that chakara was connected directly to Obito's spirit. Once Obito's spirit left, so did the chakara. That is not the same as an actual gift from Hagoromo.

Why do you want to de-power them so much anyway?
 

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This Chapter Page 12 Shows Naruto's Normal Sage Mode

Then in Gaiden Chapter 4 Page 4 Naruto is shown with BSM with the same eyes only seen in RSM Mode so it's clearly BSM with RSM traits and isn't refined like you seem to want to think

Never said TSM was refined, I always said it was BSM that got refined U_U

Also I like how you've completely ignored this

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IF the last is Canon as you said before then that further confirms that Naruto only has BSM

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because why would he not use RSM on Toneri?
 

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If I'm not mistaken, they're saying TSM was refined to where it didn't have pigmentation, but a chapter earlier it still had pigmentation. So I find it funny that it was refined in 1 chapter and kishi didn't even note it.

TSM? Only when he's in RSM it's shown without pigmentation shown in Gaiden and proven when earlier Naruto was in the normal SM mode.

Never said TSM was refined, I always said it was BSM that got refined U_U

Also I like how you've completely ignored this

That picture is obviously meaningless now that in Gaiden Naruto has displayed BSM with RSM traits.
 
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I said six paths flight, not six paths sage mode. Six paths flight only requires rikudou chakara. It doesn't require you to actually be in the full mode! Let us not forget that Naruto can use six paths power even when he is not in RSM as shown by when he kicked Madara's gudoudama and used lava style rasenshuriken.

Besides, the point about Sasuke still having rinnegan still proves that rikudou chakara doesn't just run out. Kakashi's ran out because Obito was just lending it to Kakashi and that chakara was connected directly to Obito's spirit. Once Obito's spirit left, so did the chakara. That is not the same as an actual gift from Hagoromo.

Why do you want to de-power them so much anyway?

Nah man, rikudou chakra is gone, and hence the rsm. BSM is what left, his true power. I don't want to depower anyone. I'm merely pointing out the facts that's all.
 

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"Naruto lost RSM because he didn't use it in The Last!"

Sasuke didn't use Susano'o in The Last. He must have lost it.
 

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TSM? Only when he's in RSM it's shown without pigmentation shown in Gaiden and proven when earlier Naruto was in the normal SM mode.
That picture is obviously meaningless now that in Gaiden Naruto has displayed BSM with RSM traits.

Still no counter for this?

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Well one simply can't escape the manga facts U_U
 

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TSM? Only when he's in RSM it's shown without pigmentation shown in Gaiden and proven when earlier Naruto was in the normal SM mode.



That picture is obviously meaningless now that in Gaiden Naruto has displayed BSM with RSM traits.

Toad Sage mode. And I know.
 

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"Naruto lost RSM because he didn't use it in The Last!"

Sasuke didn't use Susano'o in The Last. He must have lost it.

Sigh, Another fella grasping at straws.

This isn't about Sasuke or Naruto vs Sasuke. Get your mid out of the gutter.
 

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Sigh, Another fella grasping at straws.

This isn't about Sasuke or Naruto vs Sasuke. Get your mid out of the gutter.

Your the one grasping at straws here trying to claim BSM has refined to the point without pigmentation where the only scans that show the lack of eye shadow (SM Pigmentation) is while in RSM
 

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Sigh, Another fella grasping at straws.

This isn't about Sasuke or Naruto vs Sasuke. Get your mid out of the gutter.

When did I mention Naruto vs Sasuke?

You seem to believe just because a character doesn't use a certain power, they somehow lost it.

We haven't seen Sasuke's Rinnegan at all in Gaiden. By your logic, he lost it.
 

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When did I mention Naruto vs Sasuke?

You seem to believe just because a character doesn't use a certain power, they somehow lost it.

We haven't seen Sasuke's Rinnegan at all in Gaiden. By your logic, he lost it.

No if you had read my thread you'd know what I said about sasuke. He's not losing the Rinnegan unless someone steals it from him. What he lost with rikudou chakra is his immense chakra he displayed @ VOTE and scale.
 

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How's it insecurity? Just applying OP's logic to a different character.

Ino didn't use Mind Transfer in Gaiden. She must have lost it.

:hint:

How old are you 14?
 

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No if you had read my thread you'd know what I said about sasuke. He's not losing the Rinnegan unless someone steals it from him. What he lost with rikudou chakra is his immense chakra he displayed @ VOTE and scale.

So Typical Oh Sasuke isn't losing his S06P power but Naruto lost his? That logic.

Naruto's already displayed the RSM with BSM so just move on he hasn't lost it lol.
 

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Nope.

I don't see what age has to do with this discussion. :lol

IQ is proportional to age. Your IQ is low that's why I asked if you're 14 U_U

So Typical Oh Sasuke isn't losing his S06P power but Naruto lost his? That logic.

Naruto's already displayed the RSM with BSM so just move on he hasn't lost it lol.

Do you even know me?

The Rinnegan awakens with the mixture of Ashura and Indra's chakra which happened to Sasuke. Hagoromo gave him chakra and seal, not the Rinnegan U_U
 
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