Manga Factual claim: Naruto didn't learn any new jutsu on his own!

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Wilds already posted the proof so why are you regurgitating the same arguments. Concede already :coffee:

As usual you don't have an argument. Can't say I'm surprised though. Him posting that it is a shockwave doesn't explain why you cannot explain why Naruto cannot remotely control a Kyubi chakra claw


And this guy says I don't use logic


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As usual you don't have an argument. I'm not surprised though. His post doesn't help you statement


And this guy says I don't use logic


:lmao:

:coffee: I say Wilds already posted the scans

Says I don't have proof. sigh.
 

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Wilds already posted the proof so why are you regurgitating the same arguments. Concede already :coffee:




If that's your definition of a good poem. XD Selective reading? The full poem is there:lmao: I was just highlighting the part you might have found the best.

Found the best? your the one who highlighted it probably the part you liked being a Sauce Fan.
 

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Well, I'm going to catch some ZZZs, later.
Deuces.
Are you gonna keep avoiding the question

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So I assume you have some proof he can do the latter? Naruto has to extend his arm as if he's the Kyuubi so the paw would swipe in that direction. It's different from a chakra arm you understand that much right? I already gave you examples. Kaguya, Naruto vs Sasuke, shockwaves. There are a ton. You can't move a paw on its own...
 

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Deuces.


So I assume you have some proof he can do the latter? Naruto has to extend his arm as if he's the Kyuubi so the paw would swipe in that direction. It's different from a chakra arm you understand that much right? I already gave you examples. Kaguya, Naruto vs Sasuke, shockwaves. There are a ton. You can't move a paw on its own...

Naruto has the ability to control the cloak mentally (as you say) to say he cannot control the claw because it is a claw is redonkulos. Unless of course we're gonna play memory games and forget that he did so against Sasuke. So I'll ask again, what proof can you present me with that says he cannot control the chakara claw without physical movment, when he's already moved that cloak mentally against Amaterasu?
 

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Naruto has the ability to control the cloak mentally (as you say) to say he cannot control the claw because it is a claw is redonkulos. Unless of course we're gonna play memory games and forget that he did so against Sasuke. So I'll ask again, what proof can you present me with that says he cannot control the chakara claw without physical movment, when he's already moved that cloak mentally against Amaterasu?

Kurama was the one who activated the cloak I believe but that's beside the point. I'm actually talking about moving a chakra paw and that is done phyiscally. Like here.

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Naruto didn't move Amaterasu mentally he used his hand covered in Kuramas chakra to put it aside.
 

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Arm motion and outline of where the claw/paw "is" has been highlighted. And the "claw/paw" is still a part of the motion, imo.

OT: Agreed.
 

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Kurama was the one who activated the cloak I believe but that's beside the point. I'm actually talking about moving a chakra paw and that is done phyiscally. Like here.

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Naruto didn't move Amaterasu mentally he used his hand covered in Kuramas chakra to put it aside.

Yeah I think I'm done debating with you. Naruto can't put Amateratsu to the side off of himself without moving the cloak itself which he has to do mentally. Naruto moved his arm to the side and extracted part of the burning part off of him Via the KC
 

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Yeah I think I'm done debating with you. Naruto can't put Amateratsu to the side without moving the cloak itself which he has to do mentally
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Concession accepted.
 

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Are you retarded? You're proving my point :|

You can clearly see Naruto using his kyuubi hand to put amaterasu aside. He's not doing it with his mind like chakra arms. Enough with the name calling especially when you're wrong.
 

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The idea that Naruto used Kurama's paw in Base is just as much fanfic as that being shape manipulation of the wind/a shockwave or whatever.
 

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You can clearly see Naruto using his kyuubi hand to put amaterasu aside. He's not doing it with his mind like chakra arms. Enough with the name calling especially when you're wrong.

*sigh*

Naruto is not physically extending Amateratsu with his hand like he created the force with his hand with the claw. Unless Naruto has the ability to stretch his limbs
 

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*sigh*

Naruto is not physically extending Amateratsu with his hand like he created the force with his hand with the claw. Unless Naruto has the ability to stretch his limbs

What?? Reread this sentence and tell me does it make a bit of sense to you? I'm not trying to be rude btw

This is the point I'm trying to make: Kyuubis Paw must be physically moved.


Naruto used the kyuubis paw to block Sasukes fire jutsu. He physically moved it

Naruto used the Kyuubis paw to create a shockwave. He phyiscally moved it

The amaterasu scan proves what in your favor? The only thing that happened was the bijuu cloak came out and then he once again physically moved amaterasu. Which I can only assume is relative to kyuubi hand or paw because it was cloaked around his actual hand.
 

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What?? Reread this sentence and tell me does it make a bit of sense to you? I'm not trying to be rude btw

This is the point I'm trying to make: Kyuubis Paw must be physically moved.


Naruto used the kyuubis paw to block Sasukes fire jutsu. He physically moved it

Naruto used the Kyuubis paw to create a shockwave. He phyiscally moved it

The amaterasu scan proves what in your favor? The only thing that happened was the bijuu cloak came out and then he once again physically moved amaterasu. Which I can only assume is relative to kyuubi hand or paw because it was cloaked around his actual hand.

Naruto did not physically move the Amateratsu. He extended it off using the cloak. He didn't wind his arm back and extend it. He merely leveled it away from his body (probably so it wouldn't spread) and removed amateratsu.
 

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Not rlly the paw is evidently there. Jutsu assumptions are fanfic.

If it was Kurama's paw made from his chakra, it would have the black lines. Or it would have the bubbly look, if it was like V1 cloak.

Also when Naruto used a Kurama paw in the past, it was still connected to his body in some way. That one isn't.

That can still be Naruto manipulating the wind with the swipe of his hand, causing it to have a hand or "claw" like appearance that moved in the same direction.

It's not a new jutsu. Just shape manipulation, which Naruto can already do.
 

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If it was Kurama's paw made from his chakra, it would have the black lines. Or it would have the bubbly look, if it was like V1 cloak.

Also when Naruto used a Kurama paw in the past, it was still connected to his body in some way. That one isn't.

That can still be Naruto manipulating the wind with the swipe of his hand, causing it to have a hand or "claw" like appearance that moved in the same direction.

It's not a new jutsu. Just shape manipulation, which Naruto can already do.
Jesus Christ someone give this guy a cookie.

At least you're actually trying to think, aside from the usual mindless bots "Oh shit it's a paw, obviously Kurama"

But he's in base...

PAW MAAENS KYUUBI

KYUUBI EQUALS PAW

PAW

PAW!!!!!!!

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