Manga Factual claim: Naruto didn't learn any new jutsu on his own!

[Dantee]

Yo I can't today

Still at it eh? Didn't you concede a while ago so you're still lurking for what reason?

but hurtt people ignore the counters others come up with, like narutos the hokage, or sasuke admitted defeat bahaha, you get high of this sasuke base shit, you dont even care about whos better. yous buthurtt

Who ignores the fact Naruto is hokage? Didn't you ignore viz scans of mini juubi retreating from Naruto. Is this your attempt at downplaying me. Good luck rofl.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Not always.

-Had to swing his arm to cut Kaguya's arm off.

-Swung his arm when he attacked Obito despite using a chakra claw.

Yet against Shin with Weapons being directed from the back of him he never moved went into BSM and had the chakra claws negate the attack without moving a single limb.

 

[SenseiSama]

Boy you need to learn to read properly.I said and I repeat chakra arms aren't connected to Naruto's actual movements. They can and do move without Naruto's actual limbs having to move. In other words, if it was indeed chakra arms, there would have been absolutely no need to move his arms to use them.

Except it was a chakra paw and NOT an arm, Naruto had to swing his arm in order for the paw to rotate at a 180 degree angle

It's his version of this

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[Dantee]

Yet against Shin with Weapons being directed from the back of him he never moved went into BSM and had the chakra claws negate the attack without moving a single limb.

Thats because the multiple chakra arms are the formation of new limbs without using the kyuubis actual paw. All it takes is a little common sense.

 

[ComplexCity]

Still at it eh? Didn't you concede a while ago so you're still lurking for what reason?

Still at what? You're implying that you use logic when in 95% of the threads you post in don't reflect that, just look at my sig. I'm allowed to view the thread, am I not? :|

 

[KidGamer65]

Yet against Shin with Weapons being directed from the back of him he never moved went into BSM and had the chakra claws negate the attack without moving a single limb.

Those were chakra arms. This is just a claw. No arm attached, hence Naruto having to actually use his own arm to control it.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Thats because the multiple chakra arms are the formation of new limbs without using the kyuubis actual paw. All it takes is a little common sense.

You didn't even understand the point I made, Naruto stood still and never moved while tanking the weapons with Chakra Arms yet now he has to use movement in regards to using this claw you seem to think he used when in fact it was that he would of instead created it big enough to tank the damage similar to him bring out Kurama's head. Yea right okay.

Those were chakra arms. This is just a claw. No arm attached, hence Naruto having to actually use his own arm to control it.

Yea I'll edit the mistake out later or not people understand the right term to use.

 

[Dantee]

You didn't even understand the point I made, Naruto stood still and never moved while tanking the weapons with Chakra Arms yet now he has to use movement in regards to using this claw you seem to think he used when in fact it was that he would of instead created it big enough to tank the damage similar to him bring out Kurama's head. Yea right okay.

That's because it was the Kyuubis actual paw instead of chakra arms. what part of that aren't you getting?

 

[ComplexCity]

Those were chakra arms. This is just a claw. No arm attached, hence Naruto having to actually use his own arm to control it.

You need explain this because either way, it's being implied that Kurama's chakara is being used. What makes a difference whether or not it's a claw or arms?

 

[TrollingSage]

Except it was a chakra paw and NOT an arm, Naruto had to swing his arm in order for the paw to rotate at a 180 degree angle

It's his version of this

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That "claw" looked more like a shockwave to me but to each his own

 

[UzumakiRyu]

That's because it was the Kyuubis actual paw instead of chakra arms. what part of that aren't you getting?

He doesn't need to use his limbs to direct the chakra arm's yet according to you he needs to use them in order to direct the claw?

 

[To Whatever]

Those were chakra arms. This is just a claw. No arm attached, hence Naruto having to actually use his own arm to control it.

You're taking this too far.

PT or Shockwave at this point.

But i'm curious as to how that looks like chakra to you.

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I've never seen kishimoto draw chakra like that. Especially not KCM Chakra.

Besides that, he's using Bijuu chakra either way. Doens't really matter.​

 

[KidGamer65]

You need explain this because either way, it's being implied that Kurama's chakara is being used. What makes a difference whether or not it's a claw or arms?

My post explains why the difference is significant. I've already explained in my first post in this thread why Kyuubi's chakra being used isn't surprising and isn't less likely than some unknown Fuuton Jutsu that looks and acts absolutely nothing like a Fuuton. (So I'm not even sure where Fuuton came from in the first place) B has used partial transformation in Base. Naruto has used Kurama's chakra in Base during The Last. Him doing it again but in a different form isn't surprising in the slightest.

 

[Dantee]

You need explain this because either way, it's being implied that Kurama's chakara is being used. What makes a difference whether or not it's a claw or arms?

The paw cannot be extended like chakra arms. Chakra arms can be extended but is exclusive to BSM.

Still at what? You're implying that you use logic when in 95% of the threads you post in don't reflect that, just look at my sig. I'm allowed to view the thread, am I not? :|

All you do is troll. I never see you use logic ever..

watch out dante your insecurities are showing maybe you should come up with 100 reasons on why your not buthurtt and than when people don't have as much time to waste as you do you can feel like your actually right bahaha

Another troll. If you're assuming I'm butthurt because I made a 100 reasons post then what about you, the one who keeps talking about it? I'm already in the midst of my next 100 reasons why Sasuke > Naruto so I can't wait for you to read that as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

You're taking this too far.

PT or Shockwave at this point.

But i'm curious as to how that looks like chakra to you.

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I've never seen kishimoto draw chakra like that.

Um. You do realize that the shading and everything looks exactly the same as his Avatar right? The Avatar is chakra, so looks can't be a reason for you to deny it being chakra.

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They're larger because they're uncontrolled. And you can't you can't even see the shape of the shockwave due to the scaling.


The motions of his hands in 4TK and in the Gaiden are very similar. A swiping motion.

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I believe this to be more believable than him using partial transformation without even entering KCM or even 1TK.

A swiping motion doesn't indicate the same result as a swiping motion can be used for a lot of things. Gaiden shows a physical claw making contact with the weapons and hitting them away. Every other instance shows Naruto's limb itself creating a big explosion. They aren't related in the slightest. Control has nothing to do with it. Control isn't going to change a giant shockwave that isn't even made of chakra into a smaller physical claw that makes no shockwave at all.

 

[ComplexCity]

My post explains why the difference is significant. I've already explained in my first post in this thread why Kyuubi's chakra being used isn't surprising and isn't less likely than some unknown Fuuton Jutsu that looks and acts absolutely nothing like a Fuuton. (So I'm not even sure where Fuuton came from in the first place) B has used partial transformation in Base. Naruto has used Kurama's chakra in Base during The Last. Him doing it again but in a different form isn't surprising in the slightest.

You're taking this too far.

PT or Shockwave at this point.

But i'm curious as to how that looks like chakra to you.

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I've never seen kishimoto draw chakra like that. Especially not KCM Chakra.

Besides that, he's using Bijuu chakra either way. Doens't really matter.​

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Ok I understand that but still the question isn't answered. Why did he have to move with the claw but not the arms?

 

[Dantee]

He doesn't need to use his limbs to direct the chakra arm's yet according to you he needs to use them in order to direct the claw?

That's not what I was saying. BSM Naruto has an ability to make limbs in the form of chakra which is chakra arms. What Naruto used in todays chapter was not a chakra arm it was the Kyuubis paw. The paw needs to be directed physically, chakra arms do not.

 

[ComplexCity]

The paw cannot be extended like chakra arms. Chakra arms can be extended but is exclusive to BSM.

All you do is troll. I never see you use logic ever..
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Don't see how the bold is relevant. Whether or not it can be extended does not determine whether or not Naruto can utilize it. And this post is fallacious anyway. Naruto has extended chakara arms with KM


Sorry that's because you don't know what logic is, not surprising though. Refer to my sig, a lot fapboys don't know what logic is

That's not what I was saying. BSM Naruto has an ability to make limbs in the form of chakra which is chakra arms. What Naruto used in todays chapter was not a chakra arm it was the Kyuubis paw. The paw needs to be directed physically, chakra arms do not.

So the Kyubi's paw isn't made of the Kyubi's chakara?

 

[UzumakiRyu]

That's not what I was saying. BSM Naruto has an ability to make limbs in the form of chakra which is chakra arms. What Naruto used in todays chapter was not a chakra arm it was the Kyuubis paw. The paw needs to be directed physically, chakra arms do not.

So the basis of your argument is that the claw is now a physical part of Kurama utilized by Naruto and is the reason he needs to direct it himself? LOL okay.

 

[Dantee]

So the basis of your argument is that the claw is now a physical part of Kurama utilized by Naruto and is the reason he needs to direct it himself? LOL okay.

Nope the basis is that Naruto is using a partial transformation using Kuramas chakra to make a claw. Nothing points to him using a jutsu. KG and WIlds agree.