Manga Factual claim: Naruto didn't learn any new jutsu on his own!

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S/N: The bold part in the second to last post is pretty ironic.

-Says a Wind Jutsu that happens to look exactly like Kurama's claw can possibly exist.
-Denies the fact that Naruto can use Kurama's limbs in Base, even though another Perfect Jin has already shown this exact ability.

Smh. Guess that's what happens when you ignore fact and argue with double standards.


Never deny manga fact again pals. Btw, some might have already conceded but....

Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You done grandstanding with the maturity of a child with the equivalent of "Hah! You dared to have a different interpretation than me! Take that!"? Good.


-Says a Wind Jutsu that happens to look exactly like Kurama's claw can possibly exist.
So you're implying that a paw-shaped ninjutsu can't exist? That's literally what you're saying. Lol! Talk about a backfire!

-Denies the fact that Naruto can use Kurama's limbs in Base, even though another Perfect Jin has already shown this exact ability.
Um......What? I said that chakra arms have never been shown in base, which is an irrefutable fact. I'm assuming you're talking about Bee. Funny thing is, he has physical limbs in base, and does not utilize chakra arms. What is used is different. You're using a non sequitur in order to portray someone as stupid...............that's kinda counterproductive don't you think? This is the first time we've seen a chakra-arm being created in base.


Smh. Guess that's what happens when you ignore fact and argue with double standards.


Never deny manga fact again pals. Btw, some might have already conceded but....

Double standards? My entire position is "we don't know, but I lean this direction." I supplied supporting evidence for my view, but never claimed it was an absolute fact and only got nasty with people that tried to portray their opinion (not manga facts) as absolute truth and slandering anybody else that disagreed with them. It's hilarious that you seem to take the most offense with me, who had the "wait and see" approach whereas most were saying "it's a fact." The only thing I think could make you this mad is that you're angry that you fall into the previous category which I called out. If everyone acted like you on here, it'd be a crappy place to share opinions, so watch it.


With this chapter, the "it's a chakra arm" view is immensely improved in its foundation, so is the most likely now. That being said Kidgamer, being right doesn't make your posts any less childish. What could seriously be running through your head to be this obnoxious over speculation?
 

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That chakra arm Naruto is using in chapter 6 is more visible and clearly distinguishes it but in chapter 5 that isn't the case as the same type of thing isn't seen in it and is very vaque that picture can't be used as "proof" because the two look completely different or actually have no similarities.
 

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And who thought that it's something else?
How can he use kaiten when he's not even a hyuuga?
Your thread is something like "the sky is blue", good job noticing it tho.
 
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You done grandstanding with the maturity of a child with the equivalent of "Hah! You dared to have a different interpretation than me! Take that!"? Good.
Please don't try to justify your idiotic argument. Lmao. You guys pulled so many straws out of your ass in an attempt to deny what was obvious. If your interpretation made sense, then it'd be alright. But it didn't. Not one bit.




So you're implying that a paw-shaped ninjutsu can't exist? That's literally what you're saying. Lol! Talk about a backfire!
No, it's not. I suggest we learn how to read. I'm implying that you saying Naruto can't possibly use a partial transformation is ironic since you think a paw shaped Fuuton Ninjutsu, that doesn't look anything like a Fuuton by the way, can exist.


Um......What? I said that chakra arms have never been shown in base, which is an irrefutable fact. I'm assuming you're talking about Bee. Funny thing is, he has physical limbs in base, and does not utilize chakra arms. What is used is different. You're using a non sequitur in order to portray someone as stupid...............that's kinda counterproductive don't you think? This is the first time we've seen a chakra-arm being created in base.
Before chapter 5? No, they haven't been shown. Does that change the fact they were used in chapter 5? No, it doesn't. Lmao. Whether or not B used physical limbs means absolutely nothing. Naruto's Bijuu Mode isn't physical, so no shit that his partial transformation would be the same as B's when it comes to it's mechanics, but of course it'd be Kurama's chakra limb as his BM is a chakra avatar.

Naruto used Kurama's paw in chapter 5. That's a fact You guys denied it, and had shit evidence of course. You cry about "opinions, opinions, opinions", but this isn't you denying an opinion. It's you denying a fact. You disagreeing with it doesn't make it an opinion.




Double standards? My entire position is "we don't know, but I lean this direction." I supplied supporting evidence for my view, but never claimed it was an absolute fact and only got nasty with people that tried to portray their opinion (not manga facts) as absolute truth and slandering anybody else that disagreed with them. It's hilarious that you seem to take the most offense with me, who had the "wait and see" approach whereas most were saying "it's a fact." The only thing I think could make you this mad is that you're angry that you fall into the previous category which I called out. If everyone acted like you on here, it'd be a crappy place to share opinions, so watch it.

Lmao. I'm chillin' kiddo. The only one who seems to be upset is you, probably cause I called you out and you alone. What's funny is you are sitting here crying about your whole post, when I only addressed the little ironic bit. I suggest we learn how to read before you reply to me again.

You can share your opinion all you want, but when it disagrees with fact, don't get mad when you get called out. It makes you look like an immature little kid.


With this chapter, the "it's a chakra arm" view is immensely improved in its foundation, so is the most likely now. That being said Kidgamer, being right doesn't make your posts any less childish. What could seriously be running through your head to be this obnoxious over speculation?
Can you stop? Lmao. This wasn't debatable from day 1. You disagreeing and thinking that it might be something else doesn't change the fact. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. I suggest we learn the difference next time we decide to disagree with it.
 

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That chakra arm Naruto is using in chapter 6 is more visible and clearly distinguishes it but in chapter 5 that isn't the case as the same type of thing isn't seen in it and is very vaque that picture can't be used as "proof" because the two look completely different or actually have no similarities.
They look exactly the same.
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Naruto was able to do it in base this chapter so the chapter I posted this he definitely used it. 100% it's not even debatable anymore.


Don't expect respect from the base if you have a reputation as a troll. This is the side-effect. Even when you're serious, it comes across as baiting.
I could say the same for you but that wouldn't be accurate am i right? People are just too bias here it seems. Not my fault really.
 

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Naruto was able to do it in base this chapter so the chapter I posted this he definitely used it. 100% it's not even debatable anymore.



I could say the same for you but that wouldn't be accurate am i right? People are just too bias here it seems. Not my fault really.
exactly the same?

No Chakra was seen around Naruto like it is in that picture when he utilizes Kurama's limbs. So No they don't like exactly or anywhere close to the same thing. Take off those fanfic 20/20 glasses you be wearing.
 

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That chakra arm Naruto is using in chapter 6 is more visible and clearly distinguishes it but in chapter 5 that isn't the case as the same type of thing isn't seen in it and is very vaque that picture can't be used as "proof" because the two look completely different or actually have no similarities.
What's funny is that this guy is still clinging on to this foolish idea:

No. It's obviously a shockwave created from Naruto's movement's as depicted in the scan provided by OP seeing that he is seen moving his arm from one point to another which seems to have created a barrier above them that negated the attack targeted at them.

A shockwave? :lmao:

From Base Naruto? :lmao:

That looks like a claw? :lmao:

A barrier? :lmao:

A shockwave? :lmao: :lmao:


Keep it coming. Maybe we should call Kishi and have him spoon feed you some more evidence.

-Looks nothing like a Fuuton.
-Is not a shockwave.
-This chapter has proven that Naruto can use partial transformation w/o entering his mode.

-Fans are still denying the FACT that what Naruto used was a chakra claw, instead they stick to nonsense like "Fuuton Claw" "Shockwave" and get butthurt (Sennin of Logic anyone?) when they are berated for the fact that they are so vehemently claiming that it's a Fuuton or a shockwave w/o actually having any supporting evidence.

Smh.
 

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Well it's clear that without Kurama Naruto will be average the most. Every Op move is thanks to Kurama. Even his dad sealed in him Kurama for exactly that purpose. He said it himself in the flashback. For those of you who don't trust me, check the story with Naruto's birth.
Who cares if naruto learns new jutsu? Jiraiya's whole point was to train him to use the kyuubi. That is his power and once mastered makes him more powerful than everybody. That is what jiraiya was trying to do. Now naruto has mastered it so he's already Godruto. Who cares about learning FTG or a wind jutsu? Do you people even read the manga?
 

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What's funny is that this guy is still clinging on to this foolish idea:




A shockwave? :lmao:

From Base Naruto? :lmao:

That looks like a claw? :lmao:

A barrier? :lmao:

A shockwave? :lmao: :lmao:


Keep it coming. Maybe we should call Kishi and have him spoon feed you some more evidence.

-Looks nothing like a Fuuton.
-Is not a shockwave.
-This chapter has proven that Naruto can use partial transformation w/o entering his mode.

-Fans are still denying the FACT that what Naruto used was a chakra claw, instead they stick to nonsense like "Fuuton Claw" "Shockwave" and get butthurt (Sennin of Logic anyone?) when they are berated for the fact that they are so vehemently claiming that it's a Fuuton or a shockwave w/o actually having any supporting evidence.

Smh.
Stand by what I said and still believe it what you use a evidence in chapter 6 holds no bearings in chapter 5.
 

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exactly the same?

No Chakra was seen around Naruto like it is in that picture when he utilizes Kurama's limbs. So No they don't like exactly or anywhere close to the same thing. Take off those fanfic 20/20 glasses you be wearing.
Lol the chakra was right there in the pic but you're ignoring it. That was Kuramas claw in the OP and this time he used one of his chakra arms. a slight difference but what this chapter proved he can use kuramas charkra while retaining base form. This thread was far from fanfic before and even more so now. Naruto actually learning any new abilities is 100% fanfic at this point. Especially since it's been confirmed he hasn't been training.
 

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Stand by what I said and still believe it what you use a evidence in chapter 6 holds no bearings in chapter 5.
Of course you do. Because you are Naruto fanboy. That's literally the only reason left. You can't explain or back up your evidence, and even when presented with PROOF that Naruto can use partial transformation, which you denied despite him doing it a chapter ago, you hold on to your views.

As a fanboy, you went into instant defense mode, trying to make it seem like people are doing this to make Naruto seem weaker than he is, or trying to downgrade him (which is what you yourself stated) Your love for Naruto is the only reason you are still denying fact. Yes, that's right. Not opinion. FACT.

Lmao. Pathetic.
 

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Of course you do. Because you are Naruto fanboy. That's literally the only reason left. You can't explain or back up your evidence, and even when presented with PROOF that Naruto can use partial transformation, which you denied despite him doing it a chapter ago, you hold on to your views.

As a fanboy, you went into instant defense mode, trying to make it seem like people are doing this to make Naruto seem weaker than he is, or trying to downgrade him (which is what you yourself stated)

Lmao. Pathetic.
Pathetic how can you ****ing compare Naruto clearly using by your defniniton partial transformation in chapter 6 in base to where in chapter 5 the part where the limbs are shrouded in chakra obvious in chapter 6 is clearly missing in this? Naruto isn't like Bee and the limb's aren't physically manifested like Bee does it's always when Naruto uses Kurama's limbs they are shrouded in chakra and none was seen in chapter 5 like that
 

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Of course you do. Because you are Naruto fanboy. That's literally the only reason left. You can't explain or back up your evidence, and even when presented with PROOF that Naruto can use partial transformation, which you denied despite him doing it a chapter ago, you hold on to your views.

As a fanboy, you went into instant defense mode, trying to make it seem like people are doing this to make Naruto seem weaker than he is, or trying to downgrade him (which is what you yourself stated) Your love for Naruto is the only reason you are still denying fact. Yes, that's right. Not opinion. FACT.

Lmao. Pathetic.
That was harsh man but he is denying the facts infront of him hardcore without evidence for the latter.
 

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That was harsh man but he is denying the facts infront of him hardcore without evidence for the latter.
Lmao, right. It's crazy. Can't even bother anymore. Nothing but a waste of time, at least when it comes to that guy anyway.

@Nardofanboy: Keep on believing your Fuuton shockwave barrier BS. :lmao:
 
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