[Manga Fact] Only way to surprass Juubi Jinchurki Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to debunk false claims that Current Madara as Juubi Jinchurki or even Obito as Juubi Jinchurki could surprass Hagoromo Ootsutsuki. I will also show and prove only way to surpass Hagoromo Ootsutsuki at his best. Here I go:

PINACLE OF UCHIHA AND SENJU POWERS :​

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^^ The Senjuu and Uchiha were once one and the same. The Sage who was the two clans and the two bloodlines in one person.

Theoretically it could give him ALL power of Senjuu clan and ALL powers of Uchiha clan - manga fact.

SENJUTSU :​

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^^ I am currently closer to the Hermit of six paths then any other person in this world...

Theoretically it means Hagoromo had sage mode as well - manga fact.

RINNEGAN AND MASTERY OVER IT :​

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^^ The Master of six paths, one of first ninja who used the Rinnegan. If he really existed He could use any technique.

Rinnegan's potential was stated to be bottomless/boundless so bascially Rinnegan works as not just great power but also door to all knowledge in the world. Theoretically it gives potential to use any KKG or KKT and more.

Theoretically it means Hagoromo has all Nagato's and Madara's Rinnegan abilities and even more - manga fact.

TEN TAILS HOST AND ALL OF IT'S POWERS :​

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Theoretically it means Hagoromo has ALL Ten tails's power and abilities - manga fact.

All of these sections combined should prove that Hagoromo as Juubi Jinchurki was pinacle of ALL POWERS combined in Narutoverse.

Still even although possesing all these powers Hagoromo Ootsutsuki as Juubi Jinchurki was Imperfect host.

The ONLY WAY to surprass him is BECOMING PERFECT HOST OF TEN TAILS which requires BECOMING FRIENDS WITH THE GOD TREE... which sounds crazy and most likely impossible.

The only one who can accomplish it is NARUTO... main character of the series

Summary :​

• Hagoromo Ootsutsuki as first and the most powerfull shinobi was pinacle of ALL powers/abilities in Narutoverse
• Hagoromo Ootsutsuki was very powerfull as Ten tails host still holding title of the strongest character in NV so far but even he was IMPERFECT host
• The only way to surpass Hagoromo as Juubi Jinchurki is becoming PERFECT HOST OF Ten tails... which mean becoming friend with the God tree.
• The only one who can even surprass Hagoromo at his the best is Uzumaki Naruto... main character of Naruto manga. He can only accomplish it by becoming host of FULL COMPLETE Ten tails and befriending The God tree.. nature itself.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Oh god, a sage fanboy. Give up. Your sage is unimportant. Ibiki was saying he had the potential to learn any move. Naruto will never, EVER BECOME THE JUUBI JINCHURIKI! HE WILL NEVER GET THE RINNEGAN! DONT YOU GET IT?

And, as an added bonus, The sage isnt Uchiha + Senju.

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

death >>> hagoromo

 

[3MESSIAH]

Oh god, a sage fanboy. Give up. Your sage is unimportant. Ibiki was saying he had the potential to learn any move. Naruto will never, EVER BECOME THE JUUBI JINCHURIKI! HE WILL NEVER GET THE RINNEGAN! DONT YOU GET IT?

And, as an added bonus, The sage isnt Uchiha + Senju.

sage fans are the best fanboys they never argue because they know their character is the strongest Lol

OT:great thread,i agree

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

sage fans are the best fanboys they never argue because they know their character is the strongest Lol

OT:great thread,i agree

So when they loose the argument, i get to laugh. It's fun.

 

[nandachikara]

The way things are turning out in the manga,i doubt naruto is gonna awaken the rinnegan or even get juubi from rikoudo madara.

 

[wywynaut]

seriosly....y people doesn't undrstnd dt naruto wont....never awakn the rinnegan...

moment of silence for them who said naruto will....

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmm....The Rikudou piques my interest, but I feel this was made to try and influence the minds of others. Into thinking and agreeing that even if Madara gets his eye and Dark Kurama he still will not compare to The Rikudou. I'm not saying you are incorrect, but also not saying you are correct. I myself believe Madara to already hold more power within his beasts than The Rikudous as they have grown and become stronger. Just how I feel....no need to tizzy over my opinion.

Also...I'm not saying who is stronger in their prime...just that I feel the beasts have become more powerful. The Rikudou without the Juubi could have been extremely more powerful than Madara without the Juubi. Making The Rikudous union with Juubi a being much, much, much more powerful. If Kishi says otherwise about any of it... then I'll be absolutely fine with it.

As I've said I believe this to have been made due to the possibility of Madara becoming complete. If not my apologies... Do I believe Naruto will surpass The Rikudou? Maybe....I feel he and Madara are on the path to accomplishing something so titanic. I would love to see The Rikudou to get a better view and comparison.

For some reason though....I believe Madara will not get that which he desires from BZ. I feel BZ is on the course of betrayal. I'm not trying to argue with you, but we all have our own beliefs.

 

[itach15]

sage fans are the best fanboys they never argue because they know their character is the strongest Lol

OT:great thread,i agree

I know (PS nice thread and job bro , I hope this will become true ! )

 

[AlphaScythian]

Izanami
Kamui
RDS
Sage tools
Fugasaku stick would help

 

[KCMNaruto]

Oh god, a sage fanboy. Give up. Your sage is unimportant. Ibiki was saying he had the potential to learn any move. Naruto will never, EVER BECOME THE JUUBI JINCHURIKI! HE WILL NEVER GET THE RINNEGAN! DONT YOU GET IT?

And, as an added bonus, The sage isnt Uchiha + Senju.

haha I know you would react like that xd

do you even know how much pleassure I get from making you loose your cool ? Lol

The best part is that yoy actually dont argue with me but with manga and author. Also the author and manga are reasons you are so mad and loosing your cool.

Manga fact >your pecious opinion

death >>> hagoromo

thanks, captain obvious

Of course you are correct death > everything except supreme omnipotent god

However even then it is very impressive that not just old age kiled sage but old age combined with juubi foul/evil chakra

I can feel buthurt in you

sage fans are the best fanboys they never argue because they know their character is the strongest Lol

OT:great thread,i agree

pure truth ;-)

haters gonna hate

thanks for support and agreement

So when they loose the argument, i get to laugh. It's fun.

touche but I am sure you meant that when you can not win then you, such sadness and despair

The way things are turning out in the manga,i doubt naruto is gonna awaken the rinnegan or even get juubi from rikoudo madara.

maybe or maybe not let wait and see what kishi has on store for us

seriosly....y people doesn't undrstnd dt naruto wont....never awakn the rinnegan...

moment of silence for them who said naruto will....

seriously why people can not even properly read.

is it too much ask for ?

I mean "if" it happen then Naruto can only surprass him.

I am not saying it happen just if it happen

Hmm....The Rikudou piques my interest, but I feel this was made to try and influence the minds of others. Into thinking and agreeing that even if Madara gets his eye and Dark Kurama he still will not compare to The Rikudou. I'm not saying you are incorrect, but also not saying you are correct. I myself believe Madara to already hold more power within his beasts than The Rikudous as they have grown and become stronger. Just how I feel....no need to tizzy over my opinion.

Also...I'm not saying who is stronger in their prime...just that I feel the beasts have become more powerful. The Rikudou without the Juubi could have been extremely more powerful than Madara without the Juubi. Making The Rikudous union with Juubi a being much, much, much more powerful. If Kishi says otherwise about any of it... then I'll be absolutely fine with it.

As I've said I believe this to have been made due to the possibility of Madara becoming complete. If not my apologies... Do I believe Naruto will surpass The Rikudou? Maybe....I feel he and Madara are on the path to accomplishing something so titanic. I would love to see The Rikudou to get a better view and comparison.

For some reason though....I believe Madara will not get that which he desires from BZ. I feel BZ is on the course of betrayal. I'm not trying to argue with you, but we all have our own beliefs.

thank you very much for your opinion.

Still I have to disagree. Madara can not surprass Sage even for plot reasons. However Madara has to be close to Sage at his best or at the most match him for Naruto to get opportunity to match or surprass Sage.

I know (PS nice thread and job bro , I hope this will become true ! )

Thanks man

I think that Madara can not surprass Sage even for plot reasons. However Madara has to be close to Sage at his best or at the most match him for Naruto to get opportunity to match or surprass Sage.

Izanami
Kamui
RDS
Sage tools
Fugasaku stick would help

Izanami - nope because it only works for these who deny true nature of themselves
Kamui - nope, Yin-Yang release or Onmyoudon > Kamui
RDS - once time suicidal technique... which can even fails if will of opponent > yours will
Sage tools - lel, weapons of Creator are not going to beat Creator... even if they were used Sage as creator know everything about them so it wouldn't be easy.
Fukusaku stick - Lol... it only expels Nature energy from body if you have not perfect balance of 3 energies to enter Sage mode. It is not even known if it could work on someone in Sage mode.

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[miromiro]

I can't help but laugh at all these Sage haters.
You mad bro? It sucks to know your favorite character gets shitstomped by him, ain't it?

But yeah. My opinion would be that by eating the fruit and befrending the Juubi then become it's Jinchuuriki is the only way to surpass Hagoromo.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I can't help but laugh at all these Sage haters.
You mad bro? It sucks to know your favorite character gets shitstomped by him, ain't it?

But yeah. My opinion would be that by eating the fruit and befrending the Juubi then become it's Jinchuuriki is the only way to surpass Hagoromo.

Yeah hahaha , it is so funny when we don't have even to argue or debat with them as they are only arguing with manga/Kishi himself in other words source. It is pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

@bold part is that really needed... well to be honest I think fruit is pure essence of Juubi... so it should have powers same as granted by Juubi.

However yes, I agree that by befriending The God Tree is only way to surprass Sage at his best.

+ rep for clear mind and being great fan of Sage as myself

 

[miromiro]

Yeah hahaha , it is so funny when we don't have even to argue or debat with them as they are only arguing with manga/Kishi himself in other words source. It is pathetic and hilarious at the same time.

@bold part is that really needed... well to be honest I think fruit is pure essence of Juubi... so it should have powers same as granted by Juubi.

However yes, I agree that by befriending The God Tree is only way to surprass Sage at his best.

+ rep for clear mind and being great fan of Sage as myself

We don't have any proof about the fruit being Juubi essence. If we take real life logic, an apple has different essence than the tree itself.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Madara has and will surpass him with the other part of hlthe kyubi. Madara acheived his abilities and on top of that has sage mode.
No proof rokudo sennin had sage mode haters can hate.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Madara has and will surpass him with the other part of hlthe kyubi. Madara acheived his abilities and on top of that has sage mode.
No proof rokudo sennin had sage mode haters can hate.

He can not for sake of story.. unless you want to change everything Kishi has done so far.

For plot demands Madara has to be very close or even match Sage at his best but CAN NOT SURPRASS HIM.

Naruto is only one who can SURPRASS HIM AND FULFILL his destiny. Of course only if he befriend The God Tree first.

Keep in mind that Sage is epitome or pinacle of ALL powers in Narutoverse. Yes it is true and you can accept it and go with what author stated or hate it and deny it but it won't change anything.

THERE is NO way to surpass Epitome/Pinacle of all powers by getting more powers/abilities unless you can befriend it as in God Tree example.

Also It was already foreshadowed:

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[OWanime]

I think he "can be surpassed" but being who he is no one will really know his limits and he is like unbeatable xd

 

[KCMNaruto]

I think he "can be surpassed" but being who he is no one will really know his limits and he is like unbeatable xd

yes he can, but only by befriending The God Tree, nature itself at the task which Sage failed.

However he can not be surprassed by any other means as Sage is epitome/pinacle of all powers in Narutoverse

Naruto is only one capable of ever surprassing Sage at his best and this only happen if Naruto become Ten tails host of Complete Ten tails beast in the end of manga.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Izanami - nope because it only works for these who deny true nature of themselves
Kamui - nope, Yin-Yang release or Onmyoudon > Kamui
RDS - once time suicidal technique... which can even fails if will of opponent > yours will
Sage tools - lel, weapons of Creator are not going to beat Creator... even if they were used Sage as creator know everything about them so it wouldn't be easy.
Fukusaku stick - Lol... it only expels Nature energy from body if you have not perfect balance of 3 energies to enter Sage mode. It is not even known if it could work on someone in Sage mode.

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Madara hardly wants fake peace, he wants his bro back and happy life
Yin/yang cant cancel what it cant touch, Kamui owns
Suicidal it is
Hype says they can seal it
Stick said to knock out NE from any one, GG juubi powers, madara is easily ganged then
I should also add KA

 

[KCMNaruto]

Madara hardly wants fake peace, he wants his bro back and happy life
Yin/yang cant cancel what it cant touch, Kamui owns
Suicidal it is
Hype says they can seal it
Stick said to knock out NE from any one, GG juubi powers, madara is easily ganged then
I should also add KA

@bold part , Onmyoudon says hi
@underline part, This could work if Madara was not in SM as Obito wasn't
@red colored part, well this is hard to counter so far.. so you have point for that. However it is possible that by becoming Juubi Jinchurki you are imunne to genjutsu.

Anyway I am not talking about Madara... nor he is my purpouse in disguise. Instead I am talking about Hagoromo, Shodaime Rikudou Sennin as Ten tails host.