Manga contradict itself about Yata mirror - PROOF [PLEASE READ]

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to show you why manga contradict itself about Yata mirror

Here is precious manga scan giving hype to Yata mirror, ok...

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Let's look closer what characters are speaking in this page.

Zetsu: "This Sussano's technique... It's shield's reflecting all of Sasuke attacks"

Ok, now What attacks did Sasuke use against this almighty Shield ?

Here we go:

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wow, Sasuke throws shuriken with two explosive notes connected to it and Yata mirror tanks it !!!, Impressive, really ?

Now let's what did it do to Sasuke:

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Nothing, strange... but in databook and even in first page itself i put here, it was said to reflect any attack... (wrong translation, maybe...)

Comming back to it:

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Black Zetsu or Story teller(Kishi himself) said that Yata mirror, I add quote: "A shield that can turn back any attack..."

Wait ?!, that mean manga contradict itself, why ?!

Manga scan show Yata mirror tanking explosion but not reflecting attack what manga states by words..., even worse according to manga Sasuke should have to protect himself against reflected shuriken with explosive notes or as some people say, Yata should reflect explosion(made of fire element) and direct it at Sasuke....

Another example, Even if Itachi used yata mirror to survives Kirin, then why kirin wasn't reflected and sent back in sky or at Sasuke but instead destroyed mountain and created exposion, plot no jutsu ?!

Finally, If manga contradicts itself and databook with reflecting/tanking then it can mean that anything stated by manga or databook is not accurate or at least not 100% certainly...

In short maybe Yata mirror has weakness, there is hope...

Summary:

• Manga contradicts itself about Yata mirror tanking or reflecting abilities
• Yata mirror was only shown to tank shuriken with two explosive notes connected to it(some shinobi could tank it wihtout using Yata mirror...)
• Databook is old and very probably not accurate about Yata mirror as well

Thanks for reading, I hope it stops Yata mirror > Juubi's bijuudama thread...

JUST ONE THING: THIS THEORY COULD BE RIGHT ONLY IF TRANSLATION IS RIGHT !!

 

[Chaos.]

maybe wrong translation...mangareader is always faulty at thsese kind of things..

 

[King Of Crows]

Wow, another hater ?

The databook has shown contradictions, but what we go by is the manga mainly and what it has shown us. So far the Yata mirror has not been broken, and has actually stopped all attacks that were sent at it.

The Yata mirror itself is indestructible, there is no contradiction on that. Itachi's susanoo isn't, so an attack like a TBB much bigger than susanoo would most likely kill Itachi were he hit with it.

 

[asad70ful]

nice one but i think u should brace yourself now SIFB are coming










SIFB(stupid itachi fanboys)

 

[Waltz]

Another unsuccessful attempt at contradicting the Manga and databook.

The Yata Mirror is a shield denoting that any attack makes contact with it. "Explosive kunai" detonate on contact with the target, meaning your argument is magnificently stupendous. As for it's deflective properties:

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[KCMNaruto]

Wow, another hater ?

The databook has shown contradictions, but what we go by is the manga mainly and what it has shown us. So far the Yata mirror has not been broken, and has actually stopped all attacks that were sent at it.

The Yata mirror itself is indestructible, there is no contradiction on that. Itachi's susanoo isn't, so an attack like a TBB much bigger than susanoo would most likely kill Itachi were he hit with it.

I am not hater of Itachi, even opposite I like him very much. However I am sure that Yata mirror should should have limits put on by Kishi to stop ridiculous threads like:

Yata mirror > juubi's bijuudama, Perfect Sussano or Kurama bijuudama maybe even Hachibi bijuudama

I mean Yata mirror can keep it's attributes and hype but get limits, so everything from Hachibi's bijuudama could shatter it or at least affect it.

I am simply tired of Itachi being invincible + that wouldn't even make sense

but Itachi > Sage of six paths thread I hate the most :devil:

In short:

- Yata mirror should get limits of it's durability, Totsuka sword too

OR

- Yata mirror and Totsuka sword's strength could depend on user's strength

 

[NobleRider]

maybe wrong translation,btw brace yourself
the army is coming

 

[Naoya Minato]

The Yata mirror has been endowed with all nature transformations and as such changes its own characteristics depending on those of the attack it receives, making the attack entirely ineffective.

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Here is the Data book. I don't see anything about the Yata mirror reflecting attacks. It merely renders them ineffective.

 

[JaffaTalk]

Since I specialize in translation I would say it's most likely to be an interpretation confusion thing.......:scorps:

Nevertheless Yata is sure to NULLIFY any incoming attack

 

[King Of Crows]

I am not hater of Itachi, even opposite I like him very much. However I am sure that Yata mirror should should have limits put on by Kishi to stop ridiculous threads like:

Yata mirror > juubi's bijuudama, Perfect Sussano or Kurama bijuudama maybe even Hachibi bijuudama

I mean Yata mirror can keep it's attributes and hype but get limits, so everything from Hachibi's bijuudama could shatter it or at least affect it.

I am simply tired of Itachi being invincible + that wouldn't even make sense

but Itachi > Sage of six paths thread I hate the most :devil:

Then you are too easily riled from silly statements like those. The Yata mirror keeps it's hype, but what you don't seem to understand is that just because the mirror might be invincible it does not make Itachi himself immune to every attack out there. The juubi's bijuudama would easily destroy Itachi's susanoo and kill Itachi, as for the mirror itself that would go with the susanoo but I doubt it would shatter.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Another unsuccessful attempt at contradicting the Manga and databook.

The Yata Mirror is a shield denoting that any attack makes contact with it. "Explosive kunai" detonate on contact with the target, meaning your argument is magnificently stupendous. As for it's deflective properties:

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Ok, even If I agree with you, then according to databook and manga itself Yata mirror should reflect explosion on Sasuke instead of tanking it itself...

I am not right ? =D

 

[Klaves]

How is it supposed to reflect kunai that explode on contact? How is it going to reflect a punch? Reflection could simply mean generating force equivalent to the force upon it.

 

[King Of Crows]

Ok, even If I agree with you, then according to databook and manga itself Yata mirror should reflect explosion on Sasuke instead of tanking it itself...

I am not right ? =D

That was most likely a translation error, it does happen more than you think.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I don't see how the manga contradicts itself. It's said to be able to deflect any attack, and there's no instance where it failed.

 

[KCMNaruto]

That was most likely a translation error, it does happen more than you think.

Ok, If you are right then I take by statement back but if translation is right then maybe it proves my point...

In other words what you just said, Yata mirror's durability depend from user itself..., yes ?

I mean:

Itachi wielding Yata mirror > everything except Hachibi bijuudama and above

Sage of six paths wielding Yata mirror > everythink including Hachibi bijuudama and above except Juubi full power bijuudama probably

If that what you mean then I agree completly =D

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

The Yata Mirror can deflect attack. It does not mean that it is invincible since Itachi said "Every jutsu has a weakness" - this clearly includes his own.

However, Yata Mirror deflected Kirin which is why Itachi was not killed and the area around him was destroyed instead. Same with Sasuke's attack. It was deflected which is why Itachi wasn't hurt. What the manga states, is trying to imply that the Yata Mirror "can turn back any attack" so that the user of the Susano isn't affected.

Sasuke's attack was deflected bro. Although it doesn't say that the attack would actually bounce back and hit the opponent, but it WAS deflected. hmm

 

[KCMNaruto]

How is it supposed to reflect kunai that explode on contact? How is it going to reflect a punch? Reflection could simply mean generating force equivalent to the force upon it.

it is spiritual weapon so I can expect from it unexpectable, no ?

I mean it could work in some way which could deflect kunai with explosive notes at Sasuke without exploding at contact with Shield, that What I understand at least =D

 

[uzumaki namikazee]

Itachi defended himself against kirin wit susano not yata mirror ok. Then maybe u are right wit yata deflecting attacks maybe not. Dat is not my prob.

 

[Waltz]

@KCMNaruto: You're pulling at straws and are clearly illegible of the function of a basic shield. If I may, towards whose direction did the explosion occur?

 

[KCMNaruto]

The Yata Mirror can deflect attack. It does not mean that it is invincible since Itachi said "Every jutsu has a weakness" - this clearly includes his own.

However, Yata Mirror deflected Kirin which is why Itachi was not killed and the area around him was destroyed instead. Same with Sasuke's attack. It was deflected which is why Itachi wasn't hurt. What the manga states, is trying to imply that the Yata Mirror "can turn back any attack" so that the user of the Susano isn't affected.

Sasuke's attack was deflected bro. Although it doesn't say that the attack would actually bounce back and hit the opponent, but it WAS deflected. hmm

Thanks a lot for you explanation man , it really clear up some confusion I had connected with this topic =D

but still I think, Itachi's Sussano tanked Kirin and Explosion from explosive notes, strange...

I would expected that yata should deflect it enough so Itachi could be out of explosion, attack range instead of being forced to tank it...