Manga 614: Hyuuga Clan is STRONGEST in Leaf Village

[Uchimaki dante]

I agree but they did not surpass the uchiha in the past

 

[Fanta]

Sasuke and Itachi solo's

 

[Titania Erza]

Well here is an explaination:
-Uchiha, not one is left in Konoha
-Senju, the only known Senju is Tsunada, but yeah one person can not be a clan
-Sarutobi, with Hiruzen and Asuma being dead, all which are left are fodders and Konohamaru
-The clans of Ino, Chouji, Shino, Kiba and Shikamaru, their techniques are pretty weak compared to the Hyuuga's Byakugan and gentle fist and on top of that their techniques are hidden jutsus. Gekkei Genkai>hidden jutsus.

 

[soulreaper11]

uchihas r the strongest fact who is currently dead madara obito no neji. who can control tail beast and wipe out a village in one blast uchihas. could any of the hyugas kill danzo or orochimaru no. could they even stop pain when he attacked the village no. the 9tail no. all round uchiha are stronger there is a reason why the ambu watched them and danzo,oro and other village feared then

 

[ady adham]

hyuga clan is strongest in konohagakure because there was no more uchiha clan...
btw can hyuga defeat susanoo??
so uchiha>hyuga

 

[BlackDude]

NO

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

The average 3 tomoe Uchiha < The average Hyuuga




Everyone here on this website is only referring to Uchiha WITH MANGEKYOU. This is an OP technique that has only been awakened by A FEW UCHIHA. This is not the norm of Uchiha Clan--Exactly why only TWO Uchiha were able to erradicate the entire clan... because they had MS. I guarantee you, if Kishi gave the Byakugan an upgrede (like he has done with the Sharingan) there would be a CLEAR superiority of the Byakugan to the Sharingan.

Please list any Uchiha in the manga WITHOUT MS that could easily defeat a Byakugan user. I'll be waiting...

 

[thegame]

Well the manga contradicts itself a few times on this regarding uchiha and huyga. But Huyga is without doubt most useful clan with most useful skills for wars. But the uchihas are stronger in terms of combat, especially the MS far surpass any Huyga ability. And the Uchiha clan has a special note in the databook talking in its favor, for being the most feared.

 

[thegame]

The average 3 tomoe Uchiha < The average Hyuuga




Everyone here on this website is only referring to Uchiha WITH MANGEKYOU. This is an OP technique that has only been awakened by A FEW UCHIHA. This is not the norm of Uchiha Clan--Exactly why only TWO Uchiha were able to erradicate the entire clan... because they had MS. I guarantee you, if Kishi gave the Byakugan an upgrede (like he has done with the Sharingan) there would be a CLEAR superiority of the Byakugan to the Sharingan.

Please list any Uchiha in the manga WITHOUT MS that could easily defeat a Byakugan user. I'll be waiting...

Yet this isn't really important, since a single MS user could wipe the Huyga clan.. So the possibilities with sharingan far exceeds byakugan, despite that byakugan is more useful in other none-combat aspects.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Yet this isn't really important, since a single MS user could wipe the Huyga clan.. So the possibilities with sharingan far exceeds byakugan, despite that byakugan is more useful in other none-combat aspects.

Think about something for me.

Before Hashirama, the strongest Senju Clan Member, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN WOOD RELEASE. This Clan was in existance all the way back towards the time of the Sage himself.

Before Madara, the strongest Uchiha Clan Member, NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN. This Clan was in existance all the way back towards the time of the Sage himself.



So with your current arguement, you mean to tell me that before Madara unlocked the MS, the Hyuuga Clan was STRONGER than the Uchiha, correct? You cannot claim that an ENTIRE CLAN is better than another on the performance of a FEW shinobi of that clan. If in the enitre history of the Uchiha, only 5 Uchiha (Madara, Izuna, Obito, Itachi & Sasuke) were able to reach MS status, this should NOT be the deciding factor that the Uchiha Clan is STRONGER than the Hyuuga Clan. It only means they have the POTENTIAL to be stronger, but history has shown that hardly NO UCHIHA have been able to fulfil this "Potential". Hmmmph.

 

[shelke]

Going by this statement Hyuuga clan is more powerful than both Senju and Uchiha. We all know this can't possibly be true.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Going by this statement Hyuuga clan is more powerful than both Senju and Uchiha. We all know this can't possibly be true.

1. The only Uchiha Users better than a byakugan user is those with MS. There have only been 5 shinobi to gain MS since the Age of the Sage himself. So yes, I do believe that their clan as a whole is stronger, non considering the 5 MS users of course.

Note: If the Byakugan were to ever get any upgrade like the Sharingan did (MS) it would make the difference to nay-sayers!



2. I need to see more Senju users to make the best decision here.

 

[shelke]

^ The manga also says this:

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. "Excelling in all forms of war fare". This alone is the proof that Sharingen as a whole is a better blood-line eye compared to Byakugan.

 

[sulanis]

Well they are considering that the Uchiha and Senju are extinct

tsunade is still alive( or so it seams) so technically not extinct haha

 

[Strict]

They're Konohas strongest as a whole, the talk was about respective clans, yet they're single people in Konoha, who could beat any Hyuga in 1 on 1, for example Kakashi. In the past, Uchiha and Senju were supposed to be the strongest clans, staying above all the others.

 

[Salad]

It currently is since Uchiha and Senju do not exist anymore in Konoha

 

[TheGeorge]

The average 3 tomoe Uchiha < The average Hyuuga




Everyone here on this website is only referring to Uchiha WITH MANGEKYOU. This is an OP technique that has only been awakened by A FEW UCHIHA. This is not the norm of Uchiha Clan--Exactly why only TWO Uchiha were able to erradicate the entire clan... because they had MS. I guarantee you, if Kishi gave the Byakugan an upgrede (like he has done with the Sharingan) there would be a CLEAR superiority of the Byakugan to the Sharingan.

Please list any Uchiha in the manga WITHOUT MS that could easily defeat a Byakugan user. I'll be waiting...

The Uchiha clan was the most powerful clan when they were alive and no one in the clan besides Shisui had MS,and he could use it only every ten years.

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As for your "The average 3 tomoe Uchiha < The average Hyuuga" No. Just think about this, everyone in the hyuga is born with the byakugan while not every one in the Uchiha is born with the Sharingan, so shouldn't the hyuga out number the uchiha yet they were still reputed as the strongest clan. In addition to this the konoha police force was full of uchiha and not so much of any other clan including the hyuga. And as stated by itachi only strong shinobi are allowed to enter the police force in order to defeat other shin obi, so that should give you an idea of how strong Uchiha are.

Another fact is that the Uchiha were very feared and told to flee if you ever met one( as stated by chiyo), and this is just the 3 tomoe. The hyuga were never feared this much.

Itachi can beat Hiashi, Sasuke can defeat Neji both with 3 tomoe.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

The Uchiha clan was the most powerful clan when they were alive and no one in the clan besides Shisui had MS,and he could use it only every ten years.

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As for your "The average 3 tomoe Uchiha < The average Hyuuga" No. Just think about this, everyone in the hyuga is born with the byakugan while not every one in the Uchiha is born with the Sharingan, so shouldn't the hyuga out number the uchiha yet they were still reputed as the strongest clan. In addition to this the konoha police force was full of uchiha and not so much of any other clan including the hyuga. And as stated by itachi only strong shinobi are allowed to enter the police force in order to defeat other shin obi, so that should give you an idea of how strong Uchiha are.

Another fact is that the Uchiha were very feared and told to flee if you ever met one( as stated by chiyo), and this is just the 3 tomoe. The hyuga were never feared this much.

Itachi can beat Hiashi, Sasuke can defeat Neji both with 3 tomoe.

*Sigh*





First of all, your link is referring to a UCHIHA (a known liar), OBITO, whom obviously has pride about his own clan. So basically your arguement is ....... a known Uchiha liar saying that the Uchiha Clan was the strongest. LMAO


I ALSO PROVIDED A MANGA LINK AS WELL


But my manga link is from a NON UCHIHA / HYUUGA shinobi, who HAS A SHARINGAN. And he knows very well the full capabilities of the 3 tomoe sharingan.




" so shouldn't the hyuga out number the uchiha yet they were still reputed as the strongest clan"

Before the Uchiha Massacre, how do you know that the Hyuuga Clan OR Uchiha Clan had more members?!? The Uchiha Clan prided themselves on battle, so of course they constantly honed their skills to get 3 tomoe sharingans. And fyi the true power of the Byakugan must be practiced constantly to unlock too, the arent just born with a byakugan that can see pressure points or 800km radiuses.




"In addition to this the konoha police force was full of uchiha and not so much of any other clan including the hyuga. And as stated by itachi only strong shinobi are allowed to enter the police force in order to defeat other shin obi, so that should give you an idea of how strong Uchiha are."

The Senju Clan PURPOSELY made them head of the police force in the manga. This was done by the 2nd hokage to show goodwill towards the bad past they had from previous fighting. Especially that situation with Madara...




"Another fact is that the Uchiha were very feared and told to flee if you ever met one( as stated by chiyo), "

They were only told to fled IF THEY WERE ALONE. This has nothing to do with anything but GENJUTSU. Since all that is needed is to look into a sharingan eye, it is dangerous for a non-jinchurriki to fight an uchiha alone b/c it is very easy to get caught in their genjutsu. But they were not as feared as you make it out to be, every shinobi encounter with an uchiha memeber in the manga always ends up with that shinobi FIGHTING them, not "fleeing onsight".



"Itachi can beat Hiashi, Sasuke can defeat Neji both with 3 tomoe"

Itachi can beat anyone lol PLEASE DONT REFERENCE MS USERS. Sasuke can defeat Neji yes BECAUSE HE IS AN MS USER. Hiashi and Neji will defeat any non-MS using Uchiha memeber please believe it. There has only been 5 MS users, which i consider "ELITE UCHIHA", that have ever existed in the ENTIRE history of the Uchiha Clan dating back to the Sage. But everyone always uses THEM as the grading basis for the entire clan... GTFO

 

[Piratefish]

EVERY Hyuuga has the Byakugan from birth, while not every Uchiha child has the potential to unlock the Sharingan, presumably not every Uchiha with the potential to unlock Sharingan ever actually DOES (Sasuke and Obito could easily have died beforehand, for example) and not every Sharingan-user unlocks the 3 tomoe-version.

So, in terms of SHEER NUMBERS, the Hyuuga Clan would outmatch the Uchiha in terms of combat potential, even at their height.

 

[Owarij]

Kakashi says "..the Leaf's Oldest and Greatest Blood Line"

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They definitely aren't the oldest, nor greatest... the oldest bloodline of the leaf are uchiha, since senju and uchiha formed it...
kakashi has his facts mixed up or he was saying that because uchiha are gone.. since he also said this

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