[VS] magellan vs akainu

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I named the only ones with feats and the only not worthy ones from a PL standpoint




Never said he was.



Pretty sure that's just him trying to intimidate Kuma.





Someone who's on brainless Kuma's level, while Jinbei never really seemed sacred of Kuma at all he just ran because of Iva. While Luffy and Croc were weak at that moment in time.




Shiryu is all hype and you bring up soloing the BB pirates when if they fought back they would of gang banged Magellan, if Siryu is below Magellan It's not by that much adding on Yami Teach makes it overkill.
Meant Kuma with a brain.

Based off that its possible Ivankov > Kuma with a brain. Signs of clear superiority it has nothing to do with intimidating Kuma as he's just a robot. Ivankov was genuinely pissed off.

At the end of the day Ivankov, Jimbei, Crocodile all ran the hell away from Magellan. Not once did they even think of stopping and combining their force because they knew themselves it wasn't a good idea.

Shiryu was running from Magellan as well. The fact that BB and his entire crew couldn't even react to his attack says a lot. They got fodderized. That was a clear cut one shot, its not like he did a cheapshot it was simply too fast and too overwhelming.

BB made Ace his ***** and Magellan made him and his crew his *****.
 
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Meant Kuma with a brain.
Kuma with a brain crushes him.

Based off that its possible Ivankov > Kuma with a brain. Signs of clear superiority it has nothing to do with intimidating Kuma as he's just a robot. Ivankov was genuinely pissed off.
It was clear he was still trying to scare Kuma despite him being robot, feats clearly but Kuma way above Iva. Some unclear portrayal isn't changing that.

At the end of the day Ivankov, Jimbei, Crocodile all ran the hell away from Magellan. Not once did they even think of stopping and combining their force because they knew themselves it wasn't a good idea.

Because they listened to Iva, Jinbei didn't even know how strong he was.


Shiryu was running from Magellan as well. The fact that BB and his entire crew couldn't even react to his attack says a lot. They got fodderized. That was a clear cut one shot, its not like he did a cheapshot it was simply too fast and too overwhelming.
Again Shiryu is weaker but on the same level. BB's crew not being able to react is a joke BB walked into his attack even Luffy could react Magellan to a degree, unless Luffy's reactions are below Yami Teach's. Again Teach wasn't even incapacitated or knocked out after the hit.

BB made Ace his ***** and Magellan made him and his crew his *****.
BB never fought back against Magellan, if they did Magellan would get gang banged.
 
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Meant Kuma with a brain.[/QOUTE]

Kuma with a brain crushes him.



It was clear he was still trying to scare Kuma despite him being robot, feats clearly but Kuma way above Iva. Some unclear portrayal isn't changing that.



Because they listened to Iva, Jinbei didn't even know how strong he was.




Again Shiryu is weaker but on the same level. BB's crew not being able to react is a joke BB walked into his attack even Luffy could react Magellan to a degree, unless Luffy's reactions are below Yami Teach's. Again Teach wasn't even incapacitated or knocked out after the hit.



BB never fought back against Magellan, if they did Magellan would get gang banged.
lol what feats of Kuma's put him above Ivankov I'll wait. He had his attacks dodged by a half dead Zoro and got cut by a half dead Zoro.

The rest of your post is all assumptions.
 

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The correct translation of Ivankov words were


Ivankov:
This is the first time in my whole life... / ...that someone has actually forgotten my face!!!
Newkamas: (Yeah... must be...)
Iva: I don't care if you have lost your memory...!!! / If you say you have even forgotten how terrifying I can be... // ...then I vill pound that knowledge right back into your body!!! / PREPARE YOURSELF~~~~~~~~!!!

Besides, i don't see how self hype has ever been relevant in manga. Pica said he could solo dressrosa. Doesn't make his statements true. Ivankov herself said she would beat Magellan. We saw how it ended. Arrogance never had any relationship with hype, otherwise Crocodile would be strongest One Piece character.

Ivankov was stalemated by a brainless robot against whom his strongest attack couldn't even scratch. Kuma knew more about Dragon than Ivankov herself and was the one Dragon was giving the most dangerous missions that even Ivankov didn't know about. That suggest he was closer to Dragon than her, so i heavily doubt Ivankov is as strong let alone stronger than brain Kuma.
 

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lol what feats of Kuma's put him above Ivankov I'll wait. He had his attacks dodged by a half dead Zoro and got cut by a half dead Zoro.

The rest of your post is all assumptions.
What feats to does IVA HAS? Kuma beat Zoro easily while barley going all out and he made Zoro basically beg to to spare Luffy, not to mention to hax of his DF he was fast enough to casually slide into the middle of the Ray and Kizaru fight, Iva has nothing which puts him on Kuma's level.

No it isn't you wank Magellan bro.
 

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Magellan is simply a bad match up for close range fighters. However, Pre-TS Luffy landed 2 clean hits and was dodging lots of Magellan's attacks even when under the effects of tear gas. Against the BB pirates, its been mentioned numerous times that they are rash, overconfident and unprepared and they were simply caught off guard by Magellan's sudden attack.

Ivankov managed to make Magellan bleed and countered his poison despite being a close range fighter. Jinbe and Croc ran away because they are close range fighters(Croc has range too) and don't have haki. Iva stayed behind because as I said earlier, he can counter Magellan's poison.

Iva itself is strong as it was able to dodge Kuma's attacks and land cleans hits(that didn't scratch Kuma) but it was pretty much a stalemate with Iva being the better fighter. I think Kuma is given a bit too much credit. Injured Zoro was able to dodge numerous air palms and land a clean hit via sneak attack whilst an injured Sanji took an Ursus Shock full force and was still conscious, walking and talking smack.
 

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What feats to does IVA HAS? Kuma beat Zoro easily while barley going all out and he made Zoro basically beg to to spare Luffy, not to mention to hax of his DF he was fast enough to casually slide into the middle of the Ray and Kizaru fight, Iva has nothing which puts him on Kuma's level.

No it isn't you wank Magellan bro.
So you use Luffy and Croc being weak when you want to but now its impressive Kuma was beating on half dead pre skip strawhats?

You're telling me I wank Magellan when you can clearly see everyone in Impel Down getting wrecked by him and hauling ass...guys that have the title of shichibukai and ex shichibukai, guys who are now most likely first mate in a Yonkou crew (Shiryu).

@Bogard

Kuma never damaged Ivankov IIRC. Its possible Ivankov is stronger, but that's besides the point. Ivankov should be on the level of guys like Jimbei, he atleast warrants being a shichibukai.

The very fact that he was training one of the M3 means he is on that level otherwise Sanji got trolled.
 

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Magellan could defeat Akainu if he can avoid magma. The poison will drain Akainu's power gradually. It takes Magellan pure luck to avoid magma attacks and must get the poison touch Akainu. But what if Akainu prevented the poison from getting into him by turning himself into a magma? In a case like this, Akainu can win easily. The poison would evaporate before it even could touch Akainu.
 

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So you use Luffy and Croc being weak when you want to but now its impressive Kuma was beating on half dead pre skip strawhats?

You're telling me I wank Magellan when you can clearly see everyone in Impel Down getting wrecked by him and hauling ass...guys that have the title of shichibukai and ex shichibukai, guys who are now most likely first mate in a Yonkou crew (Shiryu).

@Bogard

Kuma never damaged Ivankov IIRC. Its possible Ivankov is stronger, but that's besides the point. Ivankov should be on the level of guys like Jimbei, he atleast warrants being a shichibukai.

The very fact that he was training one of the M3 means he is on that level otherwise Sanji got trolled.
Only reason the SH were even brought up is because you mentioned Zoro.

He is wanked the strongest person he fought was Luffy, everyone in IP bar BB, Iva and Jinbei aint shit while half of Luffy's gang ran because Iva basically said they should of. Again it was already said that Shiryu was on his level if BB wanted to they could of beat Magellan's ass. Yes Magellan is overrated he's nowhere near the low top tier.
 
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