Madara's Ultimate Perfect Susanoo or Naruto's BSM?

[Turson]

Since when does sage mode compete with kcm mode?

That's like saying sage mode is stronger than the other half of naruto in bm.

Yin+yang chakra >>> yang +sagemode .

Get the facts straight kid

You dont understand how SM works, kid. It multiplier of power, thanks to adding natural energy ones chakra is getting bigger "only" by 33%, but on the other hand its quality becomes much better. It was all explained by Fukusaku.

 

[Bogard]

PS has been compared to Shukaku. Kyubi's yang > 5Tailed Beast over Shukaku's level. Do the math

 

[Xlad]

Fight Fight Fight!

Let's go by the notion of BSM Naruto having the better chance of victor than BM Naruto before. Just to be safe.

 

[shelke]

PS. It took several Bijuu-Damas with Susano'o sword lodged in to tear apart PS and it was enduring 1000 hand attacks as well. You people must be kidding me if you believe BM or BSM Naruto even has a chance against PS, when its attacks are far too quick. Whilst Naruto is charging his ultimate BM, he's obliterated with a single sword slash.

 

[RikudouMadara]

PS has been compared to Shukaku. Kyubi's yang > 5Tailed Beast over Shukaku's level. Do the math

Scan, scan, scan, scan, scan, please. ^_^. I'm seriously asking....I feel you don't like me , but I didn't know this! Can you show me the scan? Please and thanks! XD

 

[Turson]

PS. It took several Bijuu-Damas with Susano'o sword lodged in to tear apart PS and it was enduring 1000 hand attacks as well. You people must be kidding me if you believe BM or BSM Naruto even has a chance against PS, when its attacks are far too quick. Whilst Naruto is charging his ultimate BM, he's obliterated with a single sword slash.

So you believe that full Kurama is trash compared to Madaras PS? Hmm...

 

[shelke]

@Turson Considering that it was tied down like a ***** to Madara's ocular powers. Yes, I would imagine so. Not only that, I would suggest the same for Hashirama, who put it to sleep as if it was no colossal affair.

Anyhow, facts are facts. PS endured a lot more than one can even imagine. Its attacks are far too quick for it to fall before BM or BSM Naruto.

 

[Turson]

@Turson Considering that it was tied down like a ***** to Madara's ocular powers. Yes, I would imagine so

Im not talking about that, Im talking about direct confrontation between PS and Kurama. Obviously, if Kurama was so much inferior, Madara wouldnt even bother to tame him and use him against Hashirama.

Its attacks are far too quick for it to fall before BM or BSM Naruto.

Naruto has way more limbs to his disposition though, which could be very handy. BSM Naruto should be more powerful than full Kurama, considering that I dont see any reason why he wouldnt stand a chance against Madaras PS.

 

[Bogard]

Scan, scan, scan, scan, scan, please. ^_^. I'm seriously asking....I feel you don't like me , but I didn't know this! Can you show me the scan? Please and thanks! XD

"It rivals even the Biju"

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Shukaku = Bijuu

So Madara indirectly says it rivals Shukaku. And the fact he says it rivals means it's comparable to a Bijuu, but not quite as strong, so probably just as strong as the weakest Biju(Shukaku) if not even weaker

 

[RikudouMadara]

"It rivals even the Biju"

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Shukaku = Bijuu

So Madara indirectly says it rivals Shukaku. And the fact he says it rivals means it's comparable to a Bijuu, but not quite as strong, so probably just as strong as the weakest Biju(Shukaku) if not even weaker

Nao...I do think you one of the more scintillating ppl on NB Bogard(minus your emotions). But Bogard I was....just like any other person...born on a day....but Bogard...that day was not yesterday. He is clearly giving a generalization...even more so he's saying that just a "slash" of PS is the equivalent of a tailed beast. XD Rivals means to be a contender of something, in other words equal. I feel you are trying to downplay PS . Why....I have an idea...but I won't brand you...as you have done to me in the past. If even that he's saying his PS rivals the Bijuu, not a Bijuu....it could also mean it rivals every Bijuu.

Although...that's just me being a silly dilly.....but by manga fact PS has the power to smash all things in the universe....can the same be said for BSM?:yayy:XD

 

[Turson]

"It rivals even the Biju"

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Shukaku = Bijuu

So Madara indirectly says it rivals Shukaku. And the fact he says it rivals means it's comparable to a Bijuu, but not quite as strong, so probably just as strong as the weakest Biju(Shukaku) if not even weaker

Madara was talking about all Bijuus (including Kurama), not only about Shukaku. He was talking generally, not specifically. Come on, you cant really think that PS, with all those feats that were displayed in manga would lose against Shukaku?

 

[Bogard]

Nao...I do think you one of the more scintillating ppl on NB Bogard(minus your emotions). But Bogard I was....just like any other person...born on a day....but Bogard...that day was not yesterday. He is clearly giving a generalization...even more so he's saying that just a "slash" of PS is the equivalent of a tailed beast. XD Rivals means to be a contender of something, in other words equal. I feel you are trying to downplay PS . Why....I have an idea...but I won't brand you...as you have done to me in the past. If even that he's saying his PS rivals the Bijuu, not a Bijuu....it could also mean it rivals every Bijuu.

I'm not downgrading anything. I'm just interpretating Madara's saying. Maybe it's because you're a Madara fan that you simply can't see it with eyes?

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ri·val (rvl)
n.
1. One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor.
2. One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect.
3. Obsolete A companion or an associate in a particular duty.
v. ri·valed or ri·valled, ri·val·ing or ri·val·ling, ri·vals
v.tr.
1. To attempt to equal or surpass.

Susanoo attempt to equalize the power of a Biju if not surpass it. It's just an attempt to rival a Biju power, which means it's atm equal if not weaker

Although...that's just me being a silly dilly.....but by manga fact PS has the power to smash all things in the universe....can the same be said for BSM?:yayy:XD

He said it can smash all things in the universe, then added it rivals Biju, which means a Biju(Shukaku) could do the same thing. The hype is also including Bijus considering the context

Madara was talking about all Bijuus (including Kurama), not only about Shukaku. He was talking generally, not specifically. Come on, you cant really think that PS, with all those feats that were displayed in manga would lose against Shukaku?

Having a comparable power to something doesn't mean they would be equal in a fight. I never said Madara's PS would lose to Shukaku. It's their power which is comparable if they are put one against the other, but with Madara using it, he would most likely overpower Shukaku despite his weaker if not equal fire power. Humans have defeated Bijuus in the past without having the same fire power

 

[Turson]

Having a comparable power to something doesn't mean they would be equal in a fight. I never said Madara's PS would lose to Shukaku. It's their power which is comparable if they are put one against the other, but with Madara using it, he would most likely overpower Shukaku despite his weaker if not equal fire power. Humans have defeated Bijuus in the past without having the same fire power

If anything, I would say that PS has comparable battle capacity to full Kurama.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

I'm not downgrading anything. I'm just interpretating Madara's saying. Maybe it's because you're a Madara fan that you simply can't see it with eyes?

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Susanoo attempt to equalize the power of a Biju if not surpass it. It's just an attempt to rival a Biju power, which means it's atm equal if not weaker
He said it can smash all things in the universe, then added it rivals Biju, which means a Biju(Shukaku) could do the same thing. The hype is also including Bijus considering the context

Having a comparable power to something doesn't mean they would be equal in a fight. I never said Madara's PS would lose to Shukaku. It's their power which is comparable if they are put one against the other, but with Madara using it, he would most likely overpower Shukaku despite his weaker if not equal fire power. Humans have defeated Bijuus in the past without having the same fire power

You're a ridiculous! You're downplaying Madara's PS with that pitiful phrase! What Madara meant is that his PS equal a Bijuu in terms of destructive power! Please give me a break! You're comparing Madara's PS and Shukaku? Do you know what PS would do to Shukaku? You wouldn't even want to know that's for sure. I don't think you understand what you're trying to explain here.

 

[Bogard]

If anything, I would say that PS has comparable battle capacity to full Kurama.

Oh really? And with what? The most PS can do is mountain range. Half Kurama(yin) is a country if not continent buster

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Oh really? And with what? The most PS can do is mountain range. Half Kurama(yin) is a country if not continent buster

At least PS doesn't need to open his mouth for an attack... Unbelievable.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I'm not downgrading anything. I'm just interpretating Madara's saying. Maybe it's because you're a Madara fan that you simply can't see it with eyes?

To rival something definition:

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Susanoo attempt to equalize the power of a Biju if not surpass it. It's just an attempt to rival a Biju power, which means it's atm equal if not weaker
He said it can smash all things in the universe, then added it rivals Biju, which means a Biju(Shukaku) could do the same thing. The hype is also including Bijus considering the context

Having a comparable power to something doesn't mean they would be equal in a fight. I never said Madara's PS would lose to Shukaku. It's their power which is comparable if they are put one against the other, but with Madara using it, he would most likely overpower Shukaku despite his weaker if not equal fire power. Humans have defeated Bijuus in the past without having the same fire power

No...Bogard...just no....you are the one who is twisting the manga to your benefit. It clearly is not at all what you say...it's so mind-boggling to me that you actually believe what you're saying. Then to post the definition, and only bold what aids your argument? Bogard....I have nothing left to say. You truly have blew my mind this day. I'm just in wonderment.... He is clearly giving a generalization...even so...in that context it's beyond pellucid imho that he is saying it equals that of the Bijuu...which, just take your pick. With that I'm at a lost....which is rarity for me....maybe I just don't care to explain the obvious.

 

[Turson]

Oh really? And with what? The most PS can do is mountain range. Half Kurama(yin) is a country if not continent buster

Well, basically Madaras CS tanked Kuramas TBB. I know that it was pretty fast and random TBB, but then again, we are talking about CS, not PS that is higher level of Susanoo.

Manga says that Kurama could bust a mountain with the swing of his tail, but so can PS with the swing of its sword. If fact, its able to cut through three mountains in a row, not even touching them. And...

Half Kurama(yin) is a country if not continent buster

Is this a trolling or what?

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-> Narutos charged TBB contributed to half of that explosion, so what we see here is pretty much the most full Kurama could do. Obviously, the explosion is vast, but its clear it wouldnt destroy a county. As manga says, it would take power of the all Bijuus combined (Juubi) do destroy a county, let alone whole continent.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

No...Bogard...just no....you are the one who is twisting the manga to your benefit. It clearly is not at all what you say...it's so mind-boggling to me that you actually believe what you're saying. Then to post the definition, and only bold what aids your argument? Bogard....I have nothing left to say. You truly have blew my mind this day. I'm just in wonderment.... He is clearly giving a generalization...even so...in that context it's beyond pellucid imho that he is saying it equals that of the Bijuu...which, just take your pick. With that I'm at a lost....which is rarity for me....maybe I just don't care to explain the obvious.

Bogard is reckless in giving his opinion. I mean i don't know what tree he's smoking but those facts are insanely bad. The fact that Bogard is making a comparison of PS and Shukaku makes me feel in wonderment as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

lol @ Kurama being a country or continent buster.