Madara's Trump Card Is Izanami (THEORY)

[KidGamer65]

you think that obito using the moon's eye plan is his true destiny??

the jutsu will keep the opponent in a loop until they accept there destiny and do the right thing, that why kabuto still isn't out of it yet. As we all saw kabuto kept do the same thing over and over in the loop.

Nope. I never said that. I said the path he is on may or may not be his true destiny. You don't know, and I don't know nor is that the point.

Obito isn't going to get put in the loop in the first place as he does not meet the requirements. Someone who doesn't acknowledge their results and tries to change them or run away from them gets trapped. Obito isn't doing that so he isn't getting trapped.

 

[~Sovereign~]

So what if he loses an eye. Remember hes probably able to get his other original eye Obito didnt use. Unless Obito uses the jutsu that can kill edos on madara. But hopefully that won't happen.

possibly, I think I get what you're saying

Nope. I never said that. I said the path he is on may or may not be his true destiny. You don't know, and I don't know nor is that the point.

Obito isn't going to get put in the loop in the first place as he does not meet the requirements. Someone who doesn't acknowledge their results and tries to change them or run away from them gets trapped. Obito isn't doing that so he isn't getting trapped.

obito does meet the requirements, that's the point

izanami works on people that doesn't follow there destiny, that's why itit worked on kabuto, he's following orochimaru's destiny not his own

that's why izanami is useless against people like naruto minato and killer bee. They follow their destiny and do the right thing.

 

[KidGamer65]

possibly, I think I get what you're saying



obito does meet the requirements, that's the point

izanami works on people that doesn't follow there destiny, that's why itit worked on kabuto, he's following orochimaru's destiny not his own

that's why izanami is useless against people like naruto minato and killer bee. They follow their destiny and do the right thing.

Wow, I just posted a scan and explained twice now who Izanami traps and you STILL don't get it. :|

Itachi states: "When you acknowledge your results and stop trying to run away the jutsu dissolves" This destiny nonsense you speak of has little to do with who exactly gets trapped by this jutsu.

-Is Obito trying to run away from his results?

Your post doesn't even make any sense. Kabuto was trying to become Orochimaru thus running away from who he really is, that's why Izanami trapped him. Not because he is following Oro's destiny, again, makes no sense.

Izanami has nothing to do with doing the right thing either or following your destiny. Read that scan before you reply cause it pretty much says exactly what I'm saying.

 

[MizukiIsTobi]

This is a plausible theory. I mean, Izanami would seem like less of an asspull technique if we saw someone else use it.

 

[fandum]

Dumb question I know but how do we know the tech would even work on Obito? He's knows about the tech and has shown that he can sense someone building up chakra. I doubt that he has been so busy that he's completely forgotten about Madara.

Don't get me wrong in the end I think Madara will find a way to be the last bad guy on the battlefield.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

I was reading old chapters and I thought about this.

It's a high chance that madara's trump card can be izanami, it fits perfectly and can explain why madara said he had to do it

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Itachi announced izanami and said that it was

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Now we know izanami needs a little time to create the loop, and in itachi's case it

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BUT itachi already had it prepared, so it might take madara a little longer to activate it.

This is where the anticipation comes in, obito has izanagi, that's what madara meant by obito anticipating him. I think madara is trying to activate izanami before obito knows what happening and use izanagi to counter.

This will also immobilize obito

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, then madara can force him to use rinne tensei like he was trying to do at first before obito became the jinchuuriki.

So basically, madara is fighting hashirama to kill time and avoid getting obito's attention, he also told hashirama that he'll was gonna

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This is because madara only plans on fight until izanami is fully prepared, its been 6/7 chapters and itachi took 5 but it was already prepared though. And now that juubito just destroyed the barrier in the recent chapter, its about time that izanami is ready. Madara and hashirama should be done fighting and something big needs to happen soon, juubito hasn't fought madara yet and it will happen eventually

Yes there is a possibility that madara will lose an eye but he will achieve his goal that we know of so far, become human and he still wants to be the juubi's jinchuuriki himself. This strategy would be his first step. And the juubi can b controlled with one rinnegan eye because obito is doing it.

So I think within the next 2-3 chapters, juubito will attack madara and he's gonna use his trump card on obito and it'll be izanami.

What do you think?

Great theory first of all.

I do agree that Madara's trump card is Izanami. It's something I've actually thought since Madara first announced his "ace in the hole", but I think you're missing something with your idea. One, there is a specific reason Madara is fighting Hashirama right now, think about why that would be, and two, think about the Moon's Eye Plan. What is the goal? Obito's? Madara's?

 

[Luamek]

the show Naruto's logic died long ago....

 

[~Sovereign~]

Wow, I just posted a scan and explained twice now who Izanami traps and you STILL don't get it. :|

Itachi states: "When you acknowledge your results and stop trying to run away the jutsu dissolves" This destiny nonsense you speak of has little to do with who exactly gets trapped by this jutsu.

-Is Obito trying to run away from his results?

Your post doesn't even make any sense. Kabuto was trying to become Orochimaru thus running away from who he really is, that's why Izanami trapped him. Not because he is following Oro's destiny, again, makes no sense.

Izanami has nothing to do with doing the right thing either or following your destiny. Read that scan before you reply cause it pretty much says exactly what I'm saying.

obito DOES NOT acknowledge his result either, he cant even accept the reality of rin's death. And yes he's running away from his results because guy is on a rampage and doing everything he can to make an imaginary dream world.

He's running away from reality, which mean he's not being himself, remember he even said he was like naruto but then he start running away from reality. He cant accept it.

This is a plausible theory. I mean, Izanami would seem like less of an asspull technique if we saw someone else use it.

yea, and maybe that's why kishi made itachi use it first (as asspull), so madara can use it without all the questions behind it.

 

[scorezor]

I was reading old chapters and I thought about this.

It's a high chance that madara's trump card can be izanami, it fits perfectly and can explain why madara said he had to do it

You must be registered for see links

Itachi announced izanami and said that it was

You must be registered for see links

Now we know izanami needs a little time to create the loop, and in itachi's case it

You must be registered for see links

BUT itachi already had it prepared, so it might take madara a little longer to activate it.

This is where the anticipation comes in, obito has izanagi, that's what madara meant by obito anticipating him. I think madara is trying to activate izanami before obito knows what happening and use izanagi to counter.



This will also immobilize obito

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, then madara can force him to use rinne tensei like he was trying to do at first before obito became the jinchuuriki.

So basically, madara is fighting hashirama to kill time and avoid getting obito's attention, he also told hashirama that he'll was gonna

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This is because madara only plans on fight until izanami is fully prepared, its been 6/7 chapters and itachi took 5 but it was already prepared though. And now that juubito just destroyed the barrier in the recent chapter, its about time that izanami is ready. Madara and hashirama should be done fighting and something big needs to happen soon, juubito hasn't fought madara yet and it will happen eventually

Yes there is a possibility that madara will lose an eye but he will achieve his goal that we know of so far, become human and he still wants to be the juubi's jinchuuriki himself. This strategy would be his first step. And the juubi can b controlled with one rinnegan eye because obito is doing it.

So I think within the next 2-3 chapters, juubito will attack madara and he's gonna use his trump card on obito and it'll be izanami.

What do you think?

no , lol. (10 chars).

 

[~Sovereign~]

Great theory first of all.

I do agree that Madara's trump card is Izanami. It's something I've actually thought since Madara first announced his "ace in the hole", but I think you're missing something with your idea. One, there is a specific reason Madara is fighting Hashirama right now, think about why that would be, and two, think about the Moon's Eye Plan. What is the goal? Obito's? Madara's?

Thanks

I think madara is fighting hashirama to keep obito's attention away from them, think about it, if madara is just sitting around all day everyone will expect him to surprise attack, obito will know madara is truly planning a counter then. Madara even told hashirama he wasn't gonna hold him back much longer. Just saying

as for the moon's eye plan, idk lol, madara is up to some weird stuff but I just think the trump card is izanami so far...

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

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I think madara is fighting hashirama to keep obito's attention away from them, think about it, if madara is just sitting around all day everyone will expect him to surprise attack, obito will know madara is truly planning a counter then. Madara even told hashirama he wasn't gonna hold him back much longer. Just saying

as for the moon's eye plan, idk lol, madara is up to some weird stuff but I just think the trump card is izanami so far...

The point I was trying to make is this...What do we know is effective against Obito? Sage Mode. And who is currently the best Sage Mode user on the battlefield? Hashirama. I think it is become more and more obvious that Madara is helping Obito succeed. Not being able to control Obito at first? Okay, if you want to believe that fine. But then immediately going after the biggest threat to Obito (a perfect Sage mode user), now things are looking a little too coincidental.

There is a reason Madara wants Obito to succeed, and that reason is Izanami. Kishi used an entire chapter and half giving a detailed description on how Izanami works, and it wasn't for nothing. Izanami will play a big role in the recent chapter via Madara.

 

[~Sovereign~]

The point I was trying to make is this...What do we know is effective against Obito? Sage Mode. And who is currently the best Sage Mode user on the battlefield? Hashirama. I think it is become more and more obvious that Madara is helping Obito succeed. Not being able to control Obito at first? Okay, if you want to believe that fine. But then immediately going after the biggest threat to Obito (a perfect Sage mode user), now things are looking a little too coincidental.

There is a reason Madara wants Obito to succeed, and that reason is Izanami. Kishi used an entire chapter and half giving a detailed description on how Izanami works, and it wasn't for nothing. Izanami will play a big role in the recent chapter via Madara.

I see what you're saying but it makes no sense to me honestly

Why would madara help obito??

Remember, we just found out that sage mode works on obito, and madara was already fighting hashirama so I don't think madara is fighting hashirama to stop him from helping against obito, its something else IMO.

Also, once again madara is gonna stop fighting hashirama soon, this is the weird part. Why is madara gonna suddenly stop fighting hashirama?

 

[BlacLord™]

This IS a last resort, do you think madara can fight juubito 1v1??

madara only has to sacrifice 1 eye to have a good counter against obito....that sounds like a good strategy IMO

Madara never said anything about fighting Juubito, the only thing he said is that he wants to use his trump card before Juubito gets ahead of him. As I already said, he's too happy and excited for someone whose about to lose something so precious.

 

[Helikido]

Wow, I just posted a scan and explained twice now who Izanami traps and you STILL don't get it. :|

Itachi states: "When you acknowledge your results and stop trying to run away the jutsu dissolves" This destiny nonsense you speak of has little to do with who exactly gets trapped by this jutsu.

-Is Obito trying to run away from his results?

Your post doesn't even make any sense. Kabuto was trying to become Orochimaru thus running away from who he really is, that's why Izanami trapped him. Not because he is following Oro's destiny, again, makes no sense.

Izanami has nothing to do with doing the right thing either or following your destiny. Read that scan before you reply cause it pretty much says exactly what I'm saying.

First of all yes he is running from his destiny. He's created a world of genjutsu which signifies he's escaping from his reality/destiny/results.

As far as I can tell, he's following madaras destiny, which is like obito. so all you have said is now useless.

 

[Naijakid]

I actually like this. But, why is he bothering with Hashirama then?

And I have said it before and I shall say it again. Nice Avatar.

TAC nice avatarXDXDXD

 

[Naijakid]

Madara can't be a jin with an edo body