Madara's the best Brainwasher

[Senju Bean]

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Why would Obito keep up this Madara facade when he knows she is going to die?


It because Madara manipulated the kid so much, that he got Obito to believe that he is some sort of Madara.

Developing same arrogant personality. Talking in the Madara voice even when only Zetsu is around. Thinking in the Madara voice.

Spoiler

In 22:05 you hear Obito thinking with Madara's voice!
[video]Sasuke vs Danzo[/video]

Man, Madara brainwashed him so badly.


Madara knew that if you want to get something done right you do it yourself. And that is what he did, by making Obito a second Madara, in ideology and personality/identity.

 

[LoveAndAffection]

Madara is already crowned as the most ****ed up villain of naruto.

 

[Umari Senju]

Man you are really riding maddy's coatails today XD

 

[Senju Bean]

Man you are really riding maddy's coatails today XD

Sure. But that doesn't make my point any less valid.

 

[Gerkak]

Man you are really riding maddy's coatails today XD

lmao! This^^^^^

 

[Dantе]

he replaced obito's brain cells with some of his own's

 

[Senju Bean]

he replaced obito's brain cells with some of his own's

The nice thing was that he didn't use and science or genjutsu. Just good old psychological manipulation.

 

[Senju Bean]

Madara is already crowned as the most ****ed up villain of naruto.

He's really evil. That's for sure.

 

[ArmageDon]

Madara needs to create a Brainwashing Company, Shinju' Brainwash™

 

[davidou]

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Why would Obito keep up this Madara facade when he knows she is going to die?


It because Madara manipulated the kid so much, that he got Obito to believe that he is some sort of Madara.

Developing same arrogant personality. Talking in the Madara voice even when only Zetsu is around. Thinking in the Madara voice.

Spoiler

In 22:05 you hear Obito thinking with Madara's voice!
[video]Sasuke vs Danzo[/video]

Man, Madara brainwashed him so badly.


Madara knew that if you want to get something done right you do it yourself. And that is what he did, by making Obito a second Madara, in ideology and personality/identity.

The guy who wrote the tablet , the guy who manipulated Madara , is far better in manipulation.
Madara's manipulation capacity has nothing to do with Obito's behaviour , it's the cursed seal that made him "obey".
Without that seal , Obito betrays Madara instantly.

Madara is not the best manipulator.

Do you forget Orochimaru?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

No, he's just staying in character.

 

[minamoto]

[3:12:23 PM] Moi: "....Reality MAY ALL BE A MIRAGE!!..." itachi Uchiha.

" a Ninja must see through Deception.."...Kakashi Hatake.

WHAT IS A NARUTO MANGA FOR ME???...a Naruto manga for me = the uchiha stone tablet..what it needs is deciphring and not just reading...if one wants to know the truth behind every Mystery ...one has to have rinnegan or at least sharingan to see through kihsimoto's illusion...in our case ..i mean we naruto readers our sharingan and rinnegan is obtained via analazing manga and deep understanding of it......OTHERWISE ONE'S REALITY WILL END UP BEING AN ILLUSION!!!...SO PLZZ BECARFULL AND BEWARE OF FUZZY TRUTH....I MEAN BECARFULL OF THIS MIRAGE THAT IS SURROUNDING REALITY...and Madara is right when he says " Reality is full of lies.."....or better said the notion of " A LIVING LIE" sums up everything....and Kihsimoto already given us true exemples of how one's reality might end up being an illusion...for exemple we all thought itachi was a bad guy who massacred his clan and was greedy for powers..but this reality just ended up being a illusion...becuz itachi in fact was a nice guy who had to massacre his clan and join akatsuki to protect the village..the dude donest even care about obtaining powers!!....another best exemple of how Reality might end up being an Illusion is how we thought kakashi killed Rin...but then it was revealed that it was Rin who made kakashi kill...and still we were blind to the truth...cuz at the end it was Madara who set everything...EVEN OBITO FELL VICTIM TO MADARA'S ILLUSION AND LIVING LIES....this is why i told to becarfull of Kishimoto's illusion....

-the Most amazing illusion created by kishimoto...is this masterpiece mystery: THE MYSTERY OF THE MASKED MAN TOBI!!!...YA THINK ITS OBITO RIGHT???...ya all think he is obito uchiha !!!...really?....you sure??...comon!! what i said about fuzzy truth guys?...isn't kishi able to fool us and make us think its actually obito in the same way he made us belive that itachi was a bad guy ??.....what did itachi himself tell sasuke??..."you my young brother if you wanna know the truth..you must have stronger eyes...then go read the uchiha tablet..then you will find out the truth and learn that all your previous knowledge is just a mere illusion......

-The Mystery of tobi being obito : or the reveal of Tobi in chapter 599

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Tobi being obito is just THE SIMPLEX PART of the whole tobi Mystery...becuz kishimoto stated that he writes manga for kids in 1st place....i mean look at tobi being obito mystery...it deosn't require for readers to decipher manga ...it was even based on obvious hints...like hair similarity...and magic nae tick : TOBI = OBITO = TOBITO..and orange color...kishimoto even made it somewhat obvious when tobi stated that he knows kakashi and gai sensei...and when kakashi already figured out who he was.....However becuz kishimoto also made manga for all ages and tastes, he also created a COMPLEX PART of tobis mystery..wich is the reall identity of tobi...and this mystery requires DECIPHRING THE MANGA..AND READ IT FROM THE BEGINING...those who works hard to find it and not rely on childish hints ..will find out who tobi is...but more important then that to mention that in the complex part of Tobi's Mystery...Kishimoto created an amazing rivalry between the notion of "GENJUTSU" VS the notion of "REALITY" ...its SENJU VS UCHIHA !!!...

Kishimoto filled his manga with LIVING LIES..to fool the readers...but its not trolling...its for the sake to teach us how to be able to see through Reality's lies...and never make hasty judgements untill we get full understanding of the situation....this is the true Goal behind the complex part of tobi's Mystery....

-but just like how kishimoto created living lies in his manga...he also created tools to be able to know the truth and reveal the mystery...that is how kishimoto reprsented himself within the manga in 2 main characters :

1) UCHIHA MADARA : the one who creats living lies and fool the alliance shinobies and us the readers..

2) ITACHI UCHIHA : the light that guide us and help us to see through Madara's and kishimoto's illusion...

YOU READY TO KNOW WHO TOBI IS NOW AND HIS TRUE IDENTITY???..

i go straight to the point !!!!!!!....

TOBI IS NONE THEN UCHIHA MADARA...tobi is 3 persons in same body...tobi = obito+ spiral zetsu+Madara...but the reall and dominant and boss tobi is madara....in other words...right now there are 2 madara's runing around...rikudo madara and Tobidara (who 90% is the one inside spiral zetsu now).....

-Guys plzz there is one simple rule to know who the finall villain is : the rule says : "the Central villain is the one who is supposed to final villain"...now who was the central villain of the manga....its of course without doubt the masked man tobi...and here's the source of problem emerges...if Tobi was obito then why didn't he become the final villain??..

- the answer is easy...becuz he wasn't the reall masked man tobi....now another kestion...why did Madara become the final villain when madara appeared in just 2 or 3 arcs since chapter 559??!!...i mean its not fair that kishi that kishi make madara the final villain when he only appeared nearly in the end of series right?...THE ANSWER TO THIS IS EASY...Madara dizerves to be the finall villain becuz HE WAS THE TRUE MASKED MAN TOBI...in other words...madara was introduced as villain character since the first arc of naruto shippuden in his for "tobi"...

-Now another more complicated kestion...if the masked man dizerves to be the final villain...then why did his character suddenly changed after his mask was broke??.....nooo guys...the masked man is still the final villain..and im pretty sure you realize the difference in character and strenght between the masked Tobi and the unmasked obito...
its becuz ...that boss part in tobi is madara and its the final villain = the boss part in tobi is the one that got sick and tired of naruto's talk no jutsu..

while the weak part is the obito part = that is why it got talknojutsued so easily....

now many of you maybe will disagree with me and call me stupid...and say tobi is CLEARLY OBITO becus of the following reasons :

1-becuz Madara himself stated that he died..
2-becuz madara himself called obito with his name
3-becuz if tobi was the 2nd Madara controlling obito then why didn't he stop obito from being the juubi's jinchuriki??

yeah all these kestions make sence and seem to destruct my tobi being madara theory...BUT WAIT WAIT WAIT !!...

lests ask some logic questions plz...DO you think Madara is dumb stupid to just die and entrust all the sacrifices he did for the Moon eye plan to a 13 years kid called obito??...what if kabuto never resurected edomadara...what if both nagato and obito planned to revive madara and never revive him...then what was Madara goin to do while he is dead??...some say he left the black zetsu....and placed a curse seal on obito's heart to controll him....but we all know the fact that black zetsu...can not take down obito or nagato...or never dare possess them...though he is loyal to madara but he is weak....and what if obito dies??..he will die and vanish with the curse seal in his heart..thus enable nagato to betray him and implement "his pain ideology"...hence Madara was very smart and sharpthinker...becuz Madara doesnt trust nagato and obito... so befor he died he sealed his empty shell within obito and controlled him...

Madara in fact never died but kept alive inside obito's body..so tobi bcome the immoratal madara...while rikudo madara was dead...

-i dont know what awefull jutsu exactly Madara used so that we have 2 madara's runing around...But im pretty sure Madara can do it...its not a clone...and its not a..

 

[Samest]

It was his plan from the beginning.

 

[Senju Bean]

[3:12:23 PM] Moi: "....Reality MAY ALL BE A MIRAGE!!..." itachi Uchiha.

" a Ninja must see through Deception.."...Kakashi Hatake.

WHAT IS A NARUTO MANGA FOR ME???...a Naruto manga for me = the uchiha stone tablet..what it needs is deciphring and not just reading...if one wants to know the truth behind every Mystery ...one has to have rinnegan or at least sharingan to see through kihsimoto's illusion...in our case ..i mean we naruto readers our sharingan and rinnegan is obtained via analazing manga and deep understanding of it......OTHERWISE ONE'S REALITY WILL END UP BEING AN ILLUSION!!!...SO PLZZ BECARFULL AND BEWARE OF FUZZY TRUTH....I MEAN BECARFULL OF THIS MIRAGE THAT IS SURROUNDING REALITY...and Madara is right when he says " Reality is full of lies.."....or better said the notion of " A LIVING LIE" sums up everything....and Kihsimoto already given us true exemples of how one's reality might end up being an illusion...for exemple we all thought itachi was a bad guy who massacred his clan and was greedy for powers..but this reality just ended up being a illusion...becuz itachi in fact was a nice guy who had to massacre his clan and join akatsuki to protect the village..the dude donest even care about obtaining powers!!....another best exemple of how Reality might end up being an Illusion is how we thought kakashi killed Rin...but then it was revealed that it was Rin who made kakashi kill...and still we were blind to the truth...cuz at the end it was Madara who set everything...EVEN OBITO FELL VICTIM TO MADARA'S ILLUSION AND LIVING LIES....this is why i told to becarfull of Kishimoto's illusion....

-the Most amazing illusion created by kishimoto...is this masterpiece mystery: THE MYSTERY OF THE MASKED MAN TOBI!!!...YA THINK ITS OBITO RIGHT???...ya all think he is obito uchiha !!!...really?....you sure??...comon!! what i said about fuzzy truth guys?...isn't kishi able to fool us and make us think its actually obito in the same way he made us belive that itachi was a bad guy ??.....what did itachi himself tell sasuke??..."you my young brother if you wanna know the truth..you must have stronger eyes...then go read the uchiha tablet..then you will find out the truth and learn that all your previous knowledge is just a mere illusion......

-The Mystery of tobi being obito : or the reveal of Tobi in chapter 599

You must be registered for see images

Tobi being obito is just THE SIMPLEX PART of the whole tobi Mystery...becuz kishimoto stated that he writes manga for kids in 1st place....i mean look at tobi being obito mystery...it deosn't require for readers to decipher manga ...it was even based on obvious hints...like hair similarity...and magic nae tick : TOBI = OBITO = TOBITO..and orange color...kishimoto even made it somewhat obvious when tobi stated that he knows kakashi and gai sensei...and when kakashi already figured out who he was.....However becuz kishimoto also made manga for all ages and tastes, he also created a COMPLEX PART of tobis mystery..wich is the reall identity of tobi...and this mystery requires DECIPHRING THE MANGA..AND READ IT FROM THE BEGINING...those who works hard to find it and not rely on childish hints ..will find out who tobi is...but more important then that to mention that in the complex part of Tobi's Mystery...Kishimoto created an amazing rivalry between the notion of "GENJUTSU" VS the notion of "REALITY" ...its SENJU VS UCHIHA !!!...

Kishimoto filled his manga with LIVING LIES..to fool the readers...but its not trolling...its for the sake to teach us how to be able to see through Reality's lies...and never make hasty judgements untill we get full understanding of the situation....this is the true Goal behind the complex part of tobi's Mystery....

-but just like how kishimoto created living lies in his manga...he also created tools to be able to know the truth and reveal the mystery...that is how kishimoto reprsented himself within the manga in 2 main characters :

1) UCHIHA MADARA : the one who creats living lies and fool the alliance shinobies and us the readers..

2) ITACHI UCHIHA : the light that guide us and help us to see through Madara's and kishimoto's illusion...

YOU READY TO KNOW WHO TOBI IS NOW AND HIS TRUE IDENTITY???..

i go straight to the point !!!!!!!....

TOBI IS NONE THEN UCHIHA MADARA...tobi is 3 persons in same body...tobi = obito+ spiral zetsu+Madara...but the reall and dominant and boss tobi is madara....in other words...right now there are 2 madara's runing around...rikudo madara and Tobidara (who 90% is the one inside spiral zetsu now).....

-Guys plzz there is one simple rule to know who the finall villain is : the rule says : "the Central villain is the one who is supposed to final villain"...now who was the central villain of the manga....its of course without doubt the masked man tobi...and here's the source of problem emerges...if Tobi was obito then why didn't he become the final villain??..

- the answer is easy...becuz he wasn't the reall masked man tobi....now another kestion...why did Madara become the final villain when madara appeared in just 2 or 3 arcs since chapter 559??!!...i mean its not fair that kishi that kishi make madara the final villain when he only appeared nearly in the end of series right?...THE ANSWER TO THIS IS EASY...Madara dizerves to be the finall villain becuz HE WAS THE TRUE MASKED MAN TOBI...in other words...madara was introduced as villain character since the first arc of naruto shippuden in his for "tobi"...

-Now another more complicated kestion...if the masked man dizerves to be the final villain...then why did his character suddenly changed after his mask was broke??.....nooo guys...the masked man is still the final villain..and im pretty sure you realize the difference in character and strenght between the masked Tobi and the unmasked obito...
its becuz ...that boss part in tobi is madara and its the final villain = the boss part in tobi is the one that got sick and tired of naruto's talk no jutsu..

while the weak part is the obito part = that is why it got talknojutsued so easily....

now many of you maybe will disagree with me and call me stupid...and say tobi is CLEARLY OBITO becus of the following reasons :

1-becuz Madara himself stated that he died..
2-becuz madara himself called obito with his name
3-becuz if tobi was the 2nd Madara controlling obito then why didn't he stop obito from being the juubi's jinchuriki??

yeah all these kestions make sence and seem to destruct my tobi being madara theory...BUT WAIT WAIT WAIT !!...

lests ask some logic questions plz...DO you think Madara is dumb stupid to just die and entrust all the sacrifices he did for the Moon eye plan to a 13 years kid called obito??...what if kabuto never resurected edomadara...what if both nagato and obito planned to revive madara and never revive him...then what was Madara goin to do while he is dead??...some say he left the black zetsu....and placed a curse seal on obito's heart to controll him....but we all know the fact that black zetsu...can not take down obito or nagato...or never dare possess them...though he is loyal to madara but he is weak....and what if obito dies??..he will die and vanish with the curse seal in his heart..thus enable nagato to betray him and implement "his pain ideology"...hence Madara was very smart and sharpthinker...becuz Madara doesnt trust nagato and obito... so befor he died he sealed his empty shell within obito and controlled him...

Madara in fact never died but kept alive inside obito's body..so tobi bcome the immoratal madara...while rikudo madara was dead...

-i dont know what awefull jutsu exactly Madara used so that we have 2 madara's runing around...But im pretty sure Madara can do it...its not a clone...and its not a..

Tobi was Madara but not in they way you think. He simply completely rewritten Obito's brain such that Obito might as well be considered another Madara.

 

[Senju Bean]

It was his plan from the beginning.

Yes, Madara is the ultimate mastermind.

 

[Senju Bean]

No, he's just staying in character.

When no one was around? When Konan was dying?

Face it. Obito was so in character, he thought he was some sort of Madara.

 

[minamoto]

Tobi was Madara but not in they way you think. He simply completely rewritten Obito's brain such that Obito might as well be considered another Madara.

DUDE THE REALL MADARA IS IN SPIRAL ZETSU...THE RIKUDO MADARA IS JUST THE PERFECT VESSEL FOR THE MAN INSIDE SPIRL ZETSU...
THE MAN INSIDE SPIRAL ZETSU IS THE EMPTY SHELL OF MADARA AND WAS USING Obito AS WEAKER VESSEL UNTILL HE GETS HIS REAL VESSEL ( rikudo madara) REVIVED....THERE ARE 2 MADARA'S RUNING AROUND NOW...i think madara used a sozo banbutsu to seal his empty shell within obito...in the same way hagoromo sealed gedo mazo within the moon...DONT LET KIHSIMOTO AND MADARA FOOL YOU...madara is the reall tobi

 

[minamoto]

No, he's just staying in character.

noo the one who said "i was the 1 who gave nagato the rinnegan" was the 2nd madara controlling obito...madara is the reall tobi

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Madara manipulated Obito to become who he is now, but Obito also had a responsibility to make others believe he was indeed Madara. The 4th Shinobi war started because he declared war as Maddy (Power in a Name), and to also keep the suspense of the masked man to the readers.

 

[Senju Bean]

Madara manipulated Obito to become who he is now, but Obito also had a responsibility to make others believe he was indeed Madara. The 4th Shinobi war started because he declared war as Maddy (Power in a Name), and to also keep the suspense of the masked man to the readers.

But Madara didn't want to leave that up to chance. Better to make a second Madara than to make someone act like Madara.