[Discussion] Madara's power

[TheSageOfNinetails]

I've seen countless threads on here regarding Madara's power now that he is alive again.

Many say he's stronger, many say he's weaker. Well, I'm going to attempt to put an end to the argument. Please read all of it before you post your opinions, or else you'll miss my main points.

When Madara was first revived by Kabuto, he told him that he had brought him back better than when he was in his prime. Obviously making the Edo Madara stronger than his original* body.

When the Hokages were resurrected, Tobirama had said that they were brought back at almost* their full strength. Meaning the originals are stronger than the Edo forms.

So the EdoMadara is stronger than the original Madara, while the Edo hokage are weaker than the original Hokage.

When Madara revived himself, his first words were " now I can fight at full strength". many people will take this quote and say " oh he must be stronger* now". No, he is not.

Before Madara revived himself, he thanked Naruto for weakening Obito to the point where Black Zetsu could take him over and use the Rinne Tensei.

He was waiting for Obito to be defeated, prolonging his fight with Hashirama as long as he could to wait for his chance.

Meaning: EDO MADARA WAS HOLDING BACK.

He did not want to put up a tough fight to where Hashirama would have to attack at his strongest capacity.

Now that he is revived, he no longer needs to hold back.

Meaning: HE CAN NOW* FIGHT AT FULL STRENGTH, because he NO LONGER NEEDS TO HOLD BACK.

Edo Madara was holding back until he could be revived.

Edo Madara is either stronger or equal to his new revived self ( since his new body is made of Hashirama's cells still, which are now living instead of dead)

I hope you read all the way to this part, otherwise I will probably just ignore your input because you refused to read to the end, missing out on the key part.

So, one more time.

Madara can now fight at full strength, not because he is stronger, but because he no longer needs to hold back.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Bimbonium]

I guess it's your opinion that madara was holding back the next few chapters will solve this.

 

[CodyKal]

That's a pretty solid theory actually. It makes a lot of sense

 

[Skywardsword]

Or maybe now he can use he all the Rinnagan abilities....Rinnegan is Op...

 

[Kαmi]

This actually makes a great deal of sense if you think about it. Madara was obviously waiting on Obito's defeat, you can tell from his smirks throughout the chapter and later thanking Naruto for beating him. Even though Madara was immobile and "defeated" he wasn't worried or tired in the slightest. Him saying he can fight at full strength makes more sense when you say he's referring to him holding back against Hashi because Kabuto said he revied him stronger than his prime, he couldn't have been talking about his Edo form.
Good thread, this actually cleared things up for me

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

I guess it's your opinion that madara was holding back the next few chapters will solve this.

Hopefully we do get an explanation, but you do see my logic in this right?

That's a pretty solid theory actually. It makes a lot of sense

Thanks man.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

This actually makes a great deal of sense if you think about it. Madara was obviously waiting on Obito's defeat, you can tell from his smirks throughout the chapter and later thanking Naruto for beating him. Even though Madara was immobile and "defeated" he wasn't worried or tired in the slightest. Him saying he can fight at full strength makes more sense when you say he's referring to him holding back against Hashi because Kabuto said he revied him stronger than his prime, he couldn't have been talking about his Edo form.
Good thread, this actually cleared things up for me

Thanks for reading, man.

 

[Lay]

Nice one man

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Nice one man

Thank you.

 

[Chīkara]

Good thread. This is probably the truth

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Good thread. This is probably the truth

Thanks for reading.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Well its obvious , only haters and fapboys would deny this.

 

[Kakashi Hatakeo]

You are completely right and I knew he was holding back I thought everyone did but I did not put 2 and 2 together with this new chapter everything stated there is correct or at least k feel it is thank you dude for the wisdom of Solomon lol

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Well its obvious , only haters and fapboys would deny this.

My thoughts exactly. lol.

You are completely right and I knew he was holding back I thought everyone did but I did not put 2 and 2 together with this new chapter everything stated there is correct or at least k feel it is thank you dude for the wisdom of Solomon lol

Thanks for reading, man!

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Very nice theory.

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Very nice theory.

Thank you!

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

I never thought of this good work

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Thank you!

Your welcome

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

I never thought of this good work

It took me a while as well, but so far it's the only logical thing I can think of.

And Thanks!

 

[marijuanna]

what if when kabuto said he was better than he was in his prime he meant that he had both rinnegan and his young body, because by the time that he awoke the rinnegan he was already a old man, if that was not the case he could pull the plan all by himself not needing Obito, but as we can see, he was revived with both this time, if that is indeed true your theory is wrong. My guess is he has more power now, his jutsus are stronger, kabuto's edo tensei is not better than Orochi's enhanced by zetsu Edo tensei, BUT since he is not immortal now he is in fact weaker overall