Madara's plan to become Ten tails Host, well played Madara ;)

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KCMNaruto

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Hello guys I would like to unveil Madara's Backup plan to everyone, please stay focused and I promise that it will be as short as possible. Let's begin.

First failure, Madara's calmness and First stage of his plan:
Here Madara's plan forcing Obito to ressurect him with Rinne Tensei failed, but Madara still keep his calm. Back then I thought that it is strange or Madara simply doesn't care about who but the plan Mugen Tsukuyomi may be realized:
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This is the first time when Madara mentions his trump card:
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^^ However Madara mentions something very important: "He might anticipate me before I can use my trump card."

Madara lands in front of SM Hashirama intercepting him:
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^^ This may looked like random action, but actually I believe Madara has done for few reasons:

1) Enjoy his battle against Hashirama once again
2) make preparations to use Trump card
3) uknown(later explained to defend Obtio from Hashirama)

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^^ Here Madara is shown fighting against SM Hashirama and he says "There is no time but with things like this there is something I have to do"

Madara want to keep Hashirama here a little longer:
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Senjutsu, Madara's plan become more clear:
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^^ Now pay attention and focus on Tobirama's words: "Even though if Ninjutsu doesn't work"

"It looks like Senjutsu attacks do !!!

Madara enjoys his battle against Hashirama while trying to move forward with his plan involving use of trump card.

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Madara shows his concern about Obito using Mugen Tsukyiomii already:

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Madara's secrets and Uchiha's Tablet and foreshadowing:
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^^ Madara read Uchiha tablet(maybe even the Rinnegan), that why he wasn't surprised that Obito as Ten tails host will be weak to Senjutsu attacks, that also most likely that Madara kept some secret from Obito.

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Madara mentions that only he will be who will do that(infinite Tsukyiomii), maybe some Kishi's foreshadowing.

Madara reveal more details about trump card and his plan comes into action.:
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^^ Madara unveils even more about his plan and trump card. "In that time I will stop Obito and switch with him using your hermit power."

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^^ Madara try to pierce Hashirama with Black rod of the Rinnegan.


In short Madara's plan contains few stages as:

1) gains Sage mode from Hashirama
2) uses his black will to take control over Obito once again and force him to use Rinne Tensei on Madara, but this time Obito can't reject as Senjutsu will be involved.
3) After being revived SM Madara will steal somehow tailed beasts from Obito and then become ten tails host.

This First Rinne tensei's attempt wasn't only Madara's mean to be ressurected, it was just merely test to check if it work or no.

The Reason is Madara knew that utilizing Senjutsu in overtaking Obito's body will succed since the very begining... also it is very possible that Madara know Ten tails Host's weaknes is Senjutsu and Obito lacked it that why Madara was so confident.

How Madara's plan can work in future chapters.:
Madara will use opportunity created by Naruto after convicing Obito to join him and repay for his bad actions. Obito will use Rinne Tensei to ressurect everyone who died against Juubi and him since the battle began, then Madara will become ten tails Host... while everyone will be too much concerned that dead people came back to life again ;).

Ten tails Host Madara is comming !

The only unclear matter for me is will Madara gains Pernament Sage mode(for himself even if temporary) or will he only use Hashirama Senjtusu to force Obito to revive Madara while controlling Hashirama with black rods and then Madara will become Ten tails Host.

If it is first then lol, it would work and would be wise of Madara to execute his plan like that but if it is the latter then Madara would repeat Obito's mistake and be vunerable to Senjutsu.

Summary :
  • Madara forcing Obito to ressurect him via Rinne Tensei was merely test to see if he wasn't forced to use his back up plan to become Ten tails host
  • Madara's trump card is Senjutsu
  • Madara read entire Uchiha Tablet and kept some secrets from Obito, most likely that Senjutsu is weakness of Ten tails Host unless the Host is master of Senjutsu himself/herself
  • Madara intercepting Hashirama allowed Madara to get 3 things at the same time:
    - Enjoyment from battle against Hashirama
    - moving forward with his plan to steal/gains Senjtusu from Hashirama
    - Stop SM Hashirama from Killing Obito, or hurting him really badly so other can kill Obito.
  • Madara was forced to keep Obito alive that why he couldn't allow Hashirama to intervene. The reason why is Madara may know that Senjutsu will be Obito weakness even as ten tails Host
  • Madara's backup plan is in action already. It contains: Stealing SM from Hashirama, force Obito to ressurect him utilizing Senjutsu to enhance his control over Obito then becomes Ten tails Host.
  • Madara will become Ten tails Host while possesing Senjutsu, it will be much more threat, probably even comparable to Sage of six paths himsefl. At least abilitywise but not necessary powerwise
  • Madara knows and was afraid that his plan will fail if Obito will anticipate Madara before Madara gains Sage mode/Senjutsu from Hashirama.

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts ;)

well played Madara, really well played ;)
 
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Aya San

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I thought people knew this already, but nice one!
 

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Nice Job. Naruto will also not be able to use talk no jutsu on Madara because he will be immune to it I think, and he has just used it on Obito so it needs time to recharge. I think Talk No jutsu is a form of gengutsu.
 

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this is how i see things happening as well. I at least believe that madara will use hash somehow to obtain the juubi
 

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Well, it all depends on whether Madara can kill Obito before the Bijuu are extracted, because once they are, there won't be any Juubi left, only it's shell (Gedo Mazo). It would then take weeks for Madara to seal each individual Bijuu into the Mazo so hopefully this is a good sign that Madara will execute his plan in next week's chapter.
 

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Well, it all depends on whether Madara can kill Obito before the Bijuu are extracted, because once they are, there won't be any Juubi left, only it's shell (Gedo Mazo). It would then take weeks for Madara to seal each individual Bijuu into the Mazo so hopefully this is a good sign that Madara will execute his plan in next week's chapter.

Truth, but You misunderstood or overlooked the fact that Madara CAN NOT ALLOW for Obito TO DIE that why he didn't attack him or let Hashirama ATTACK HIM. MADARA CAN NOT KILL OBITO UNTIL HE WILL GET REVIVED WITH RINNE TENSEI THEN OBITO WILL LOOSE HIS PURPOUSE and can be killed.

But I hope too that Madara will get his time in next chapter of following chapter after next week.
 
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Truth, but You misunderstood or overlooked the fact that Madara CAN NOT ALLOW for Obito TO DIE that why he didn't attack him or let Hashirama ATTACK HIM. MADARA CAN KILL OBITO UNTIL HE WILL GET REVIVED WITH RINNE TENSEI THEN OBITO WILL LOOSE HIS PURPOUSE and can be killed.
Oops, sorry, I missed that part. Good thread homie.
 

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Nice man. Obito's riders need to realize that he is going to die by Madara's hands.
 

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Nice man. Obito's riders need to realize that he is going to die by Madara's hands.

Thanks a lot ;), Well I am not sure about Obito dying from Madara's hand, even although it is fitting manga plot... but at least Madara will weaken Obito a lot by ressurecting himself then ripping tailed beasts chakra from Obito.

In my opinion Madara will simply use opportunity where two(Alliance and Obito) fight against each other then third(Madara) will get what he wants ;), Madara is not only very strong but also mastermind, true evil genious ;)
 

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I think Obito is going to kill Madara with his Yin Yang Release for good.

But good theory. Pointed out some things I didn't even noticed.
 

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I don't believe this to be the case, not because there is no evidence backing it up (which exists as you have illustrated) but because it would extend the manga's time period even further, which isn't plausible. The manga's time period won't extend this long, but it is simply my opinion, unless of course, Madara loses the Juubi within 1-3 chapters, which is highly unlikely.
 

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Madara oh madara we will see if you become even more badass and if you do who will stop you, none I see except kakashi FTW lol
 

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Bro ,you are the best genius on this base ;) ,nope you are So6p himself ,nope KCMNaruto > Kishimoto :O !!!
 

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Nice one guy

Thank you very much ;)

I thought people knew this already, but nice one!

Thanks man ;)

Great job Exactly how it should be

It is very nice to know your opinion sir :cool:

Nice Job. Naruto will also not be able to use talk no jutsu on Madara because he will be immune to it I think, and he has just used it on Obito so it needs time to recharge. I think Talk No jutsu is a form of gengutsu.

Thanks a lot man ;) and I agree

this is how i see things happening as well. I at least believe that madara will use hash somehow to obtain the juubi

well great minds think alike ;)

Oops, sorry, I missed that part. Good thread homie.

No problem ;), I am glad you noticed your mistake

madara that man will be rememberd for ages

Obviously ;)

I think Obito is going to kill Madara with his Yin Yang Release for good.

But good theory. Pointed out some things I didn't even noticed.

well I don't think so, but thanks ;)

I don't believe this to be the case, not because there is no evidence backing it up (which exists as you have illustrated) but because it would extend the manga's time period even further, which isn't plausible. The manga's time period won't extend this long, but it is simply my opinion, unless of course, Madara loses the Juubi within 1-3 chapters, which is highly unlikely.

Depends on what Kishi has in his mind... but if he want to show full power of ten tails to amaze us even more and not let us down then he may do as I write, so unless he want to finish it soon he is probably still going to extend the manga and make Madara as next villain or final villain.

Madara oh madara we will see if you become even more badass and if you do who will stop you, none I see except kakashi FTW lol

umm... lol but whatever floats in your boat ;)

Bro ,you are the best genius on this base ;) ,nope you are So6p himself ,nope KCMNaruto > Kishimoto :O !!!

THANKS A LOT ! =D

SO MUCH PRAISE I AM EMBARASSED :O

Great work man!

Thanks man !

nice thread

As always it is cool to know your opinion ;), glad you think this thread is nice :cool:
 
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