Madara's Physical capabilities.

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I never said that EMS Madara is strong and fast as SM version. SM Madara > EMS Madara in physical abilties.
The all talking about SM is unnecessary and isn't relevant to what I said.

Again, Hashi cell didn't enhance Madara phyiscal abilties.
Hashi fought EMS Madara - fact. Hashi fought edo Madara - fact. Madara is being resurrected, hashi see Madara fight and he is saying that Madara is now regaining his past power- fact.

So hashi himself says Alive Madara thats has Madara past power (alive of course) is > Edo Madara. Thats should be enough for you to accept this. Bonus - edos are weaker than their living forms - thats also something that anyone who read the manga know.

The conclusion: EMS Madara= resurrected (non SM) Madara > edo Madara in phyiscal prowess.

I want to clear up why I did brought the feat of blind SM Madara. Thats because that If you take away SM from this Madara and give him his EMS he will preforme the same, because now, he did lost sensing but he got his eyesight back plus EMS plus straight comma of his Mangekyou.
Because he was regaining his past power. In addition, he now had SM with further amplified those powers. SM grants massive strength which isn't granted by EMS. EMS grants him precog based on sight but doesn't increase his speed. SM grants sensing as a replacement to his precog which doesn't require eyesight and involves his surroundings rather than just what he sees along with increasing his speed as well. In physical ability alone, I have no doubts that Blind SM Madara is superior to EMS Madara.

I concede on Hashi's cells granting strength. Turns out Danzo kicked Karin instead of punching her. No Hashi cells on that foot so Hashi cells had nothing to do with that strength.

I do agree on EMS Madara being superior to Edo Madara in physical ability though.
 

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Because he was regaining his past power. In addition, he now had SM with further amplified those powers. SM grants massive strength which isn't granted by EMS. EMS grants him precog based on sight but doesn't increase his speed. SM grants sensing as a replacement to his precog which doesn't require eyesight and involves his surroundings rather than just what he sees along with increasing his speed as well. In physical ability alone, I have no doubts that Blind SM Madara is superior to EMS Madara.

I concede on Hashi's cells granting strength. Turns out Danzo kicked Karin instead of punching her. No Hashi cells on that foot so Hashi cells had nothing to do with that strength.

I do agree on EMS Madara being superior to Edo Madara in physical ability though.
You dont think that EMS Madara could perform the same against sasuke because he lacks the speed that SM Madara has?
 
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Well Obito did say Hashirama's DNA increased Danzo's physical energy but like what Madara said that could only be his life force and not actual physical power. So if that's the case then no his cells don't increase someone's physical strength.
 

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You dont think that EMS Madara could perform the same against sasuke because he lacks the speed that SM Madara has?
What he did with Sasuke? I'm sure he can. Not like he moved as fast as he could during that confrontation.

Doesn't mean that the ability is the same when Madara was just savoring being alive at that moment. SM grants replacements and additional perks in regards to physical ability. They are not equal. SM grants increased speed and physical strength (EMS doesn't grant anything similar to that nor replacements). EMS grants precog (which SM replaced with sensing)

These two versions cannot be equal in physical ability.
 

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What he did with Sasuke? I'm sure he can. Not like he moved as fast as he could during that confrontation.

Doesn't mean that the ability is the same when Madara was just savoring being alive at that moment. SM grants replacements and additional perks in regards to physical ability. They are not equal. SM grants increased speed and physical strength (EMS doesn't grant anything similar to that nor replacements). EMS grants precog (which SM replaced with sensing)

These two versions cannot be equal in physical ability.
I already said that I agree with you that SM Madara > EMS Madara physically (thats obvious). Blind SM Madara was able to dodge from EMS Sasuke attacks for a whlie, I see it as impresive feat from Madara. Anyway you answered my question.
 
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