Madara's Mangekyo Sharingan ? Am I an idiot or....?

[Bruce Faulconer]

Well, what Mangekyo jutsu does Madara have other than susanoo? Sauce has imo the worst jutsu to come with his Mangekyo compared to obitbo, itachi and shushui. Then we have Madara who has what? None? The man was suppose to be the strongest of all the Uchiha yet he has no Mangekyo jutsu other than susanoo or am I just an idiot who forgot something?

We'll just assume I am right and Madara doesn't have any special MS abilities other than susanoo. Image how much stronger he would be if he had Itachi's powers, or Obitos. Do you think he would have been able to defeat Hashirama at Valley of the End? I mean, he did have Obito's for a very short amount of time before he switched over to his rinnengan. Also, Infinite Tsukoyomi is apparently a jutsu that comes from having the 10 tails chakra. Not a MS jutsu.

 

[BAS3D]

Forget MS abilites, Madara became a Juubi Jin and gained the third eye (rinnesharingan) which only a goddess had before him despite this Madara was spat out like a unwanted fodder and died like a roach with no honour

 

[Bruce Faulconer]

Hashirama pwns that fodder neg deff.

Madara fans should be ashamed.

Your fav had to get powers from "God" to equal a single guy who creates wood all day.
EDO-Hashirama was nerfed anyway, and he would still handle JJ Madara at full power.
GG

Well, he isn't my "fav". Also, considering hashirama was able to defeat him with extreme difficulty I really don't see how he would "pwn the fodder neg deff". That was without him having two known mangekyo abilities, I asked what if he did? Would he be able to beat him? I doubt anyone could be this dumb, I'm assuming you're trolling though.

 

[griffnat13]

Hashirama pwns that fodder neg deff.

Madara fans should be ashamed.

Your fav had to get powers from "God" to equal a single guy who creates wood all day.
EDO-Hashirama was nerfed anyway, and he would still handle JJ Madara at full power.
GG

Who's rustled? You're rustled autoplay autoplay autoplay

 

[Arima]

Well, he isn't my "fav". Also, considering hashirama was able to defeat him with extreme difficulty I really don't see how he would "pwn the fodder neg deff". That was without him having two known mangekyo abilities, I asked what if he did? Would he be able to beat him? I doubt anyone could be this dumb, I'm assuming you're trolling though.

No matter how many times Madara and Hashi encountered each other in the battle, manga does not provide a single evidence of Madara winning Hashirama in any battle. EDO-Hashi vs Alive Madara does not count, it's cheating

 

[IceSlayer]

Madara may not have any MS techniques, but he still gained enormous amount of power ups throughout his life time U_U

 

[griffnat13]

Rustle? Ask Shedara

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I... I don't understand how that's a comeback...

 

[Bruce Faulconer]

No matter how many times Madara and Hashi encountered each other in the battle, manga does not provide a single evidence of Madara winning Hashirama in any battle. EDO-Hashi vs Alive Madara does not count, it's cheating

I never said EMS Madara beat Hashirama.

 

[Arima]

I never said EMS Madara beat Hashirama.

Madara is very powerful even without EMS techs, so one or two new techniques would add very little to his strength, which in turn would not help him win against Hashi, the God of Shinobi.

 

[DrDoom]

Hmph. It's funny you ask that, yet without a signature ability for his Mangekyo he stilled soloed most of NV like clockwork. Thread soloed and given up for sale. Sold to Dr Doom. DOOM OWNS THIS THREAD NOW.

 

[Bruce Faulconer]

Hmph. It's funny you ask that, yet without a signature ability for his Mangekyo he stilled soloed most of NV like clockwork. Thread soloed and given up for sale. Sold to Dr Doom. DOOM OWNS THIS THREAD NOW.

what the...

 

[Holy God]

Well, what Mangekyo jutsu does Madara have other than susanoo? Sauce has imo the worst jutsu to come with his Mangekyo compared to obitbo, itachi and shushui. Then we have Madara who has what? None? The man was suppose to be the strongest of all the Uchiha yet he has no Mangekyo jutsu other than susanoo or am I just an idiot who forgot something?

We'll just assume I am right and Madara doesn't have any special MS abilities other than susanoo. Image how much stronger he would be if he had Itachi's powers, or Obitos. Do you think he would have been able to defeat Hashirama at Valley of the End? I mean, he did have Obito's for a very short amount of time before he switched over to his rinnengan. Also, Infinite Tsukoyomi is apparently a jutsu that comes from having the 10 tails chakra. Not a MS jutsu.

They were never shown. It is said though that after awakening the first two powers, you gain the third(Susano'o), so he has to have some. It is speculated that all Indra transmigrants have Amaterasu, seeing as how Sasuke had it and even Kaguya recognized the technique without Sasuke saying what it was.

 

[Narusenpou]

his ms other tech is genjutsu
a pitty hashi had to look so bad

 

[Decimo Blaze]

he probably had amaterasu but who knows

 

[DHOH]

We can speculate on jutsu that normal Uchiha wouldn't have, like that special absorbing ability. Or the ability to fight with along side Sussanoo instead of being inside it.. Just assuming.

 

[Dannie]

Itachi: Tsukuyomi
Sasuke: Enton
Shisui: Genjutsu Manipulation
Obito: Kamui

Madara: Nothing

 

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Badass attitude .​

 

[IPulseZz]

No matter how many times Madara and Hashi encountered each other in the battle, manga does not provide a single evidence of Madara winning Hashirama in any battle. EDO-Hashi vs Alive Madara does not count, it's cheating

Well they were equal in power but the only reason hashirama edged him out was because he had more power. Even then the fights were like extreme difficulty...

 

[Arima]

Well they were equal in power but the only reason hashirama edged him out was because he had more power. Even then the fights were like extreme difficulty...

"They were equal in power" and then "he had more power" ---> you don't make sense here. You also have to take into account the fact that Madara used 9 tails and still lost.

 

[IPulseZz]

"They were equal in power" and then "he had more power" ---> you don't make sense here. You also have to take into account the fact that Madara used 9 tails and still lost.

Oops it was meant to say more chakra. If you notice when it comes to the top top fighters they can't be beaten via brute strength it's just the case of who outlasts who.

Imo the 9 tails got taken out the battle fairly quickly most of the battle that took place was probably after hashirama neutralised the 9 tails