Madara's defeat....was actually well written? (wow)

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Found this on tumblr. Really cool insight i hadnt considered before.​
 

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Never considered it this way but it's still FAR from good writing.

I feel like this is a case of creative damage control, Kishimoto was rushing and almost definitely never considered this dramatic irony...but it also is a gorgeous idea.
 

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Thematically, I suppose, but you shouldn't sacrifice the flow of your story you've built up for so long just to drive a point home.
 
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Thematically, I suppose, but you shouldn't sacrifice the flow of your story for a theme.

agreed but there's good payoff for his villainous character flaws. Many naruto fans saw his elitism as a role model material I think and these points make all his personality traits exposed and worth it. Perhaps they should've pushed it more..
 

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agreed but there's good payoff for his villainous character flaws. Many naruto fans saw his elitism as a role model material I think and these points make all his personality traits exposed and worth it. Perhaps they should've pushed it more..

I think a fight beforehand would've eased the shock. If Zetsu took Madara mid-battle and damaged from Naruto and Sasuke's assault, the lash out wouldn't be nearly as hard, though it would diminish the idea of Madara falling from his highest point a bit.
 

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True, but Madara massacring all those people, tanking Gaiโ€™s 8th gats assault, toying with the 5 Kage just to get impaled by a black blob with eyes?
 

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Madara is the kind of villain who id have expected to be in despair over having his plan fail and coming to terms with his belief that everyone will suffer longer rather than him taking a U turn.
 

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True, but Madara massacring all those people, tanking Gaiโ€™s 8th gats assault, toying with the 5 Kage just to get impaled by a black blob with eyes?

At BOLD.

Your statement is half-baked. Yes it's ridiculous that BZ was able to impale Madara. But you forgot to add his move brought back Kaguya (not kill Madara), which was always going to happen after Madara had activated Infinite Tsukuyomi.
 

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At BOLD.

Your statement is half-baked. Yes it's ridiculous that BZ was able to impale Madara. But you forgot to add his move brought back Kaguya (not kill Madara), which was always going to happen after Madara had activated Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Yeah, but thereโ€™s must have been a better way to execute it, especially for a man who basically started a ninjas war.
 

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Still should have been FV and defeated naruto and sauce
 

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Black Zetsu solos.
 

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BS probably some socialist faptard writing that. Madara should've wiped the floor with everybody being who he is.
 

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F*ck poetic justice and dramatic writing right? More fighting

Poetic justice:lmao: if your looking for manure of that kind then shonen is not for you. It's just some socialist faps trying to put their weird spin on it.
 

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Poetic justice:lmao: if your looking for manure of that kind then shonen is not for you. It's just some socialist faps trying to put their weird spin on it.

You understand poetic justice doesn't mean actual poetry...right? Even the most basic forms of storytelling usually defeat their villains through poetic justice. Even Fairy tales and Disney movies do this.

'Socialist' ? Lmao think for yourself, it's a harmless and cool spin on a rushed bit of writing. Way to project.
 
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You understand poetic justice doesn't mean actual poetry...right? Even the most basic forms of storytelling usually defeat their villains through poetic justice. Even Fairy tales and Disney movies do this.

'Socialist' ? Lmao think for yourself, it's a harmless and cool spin on a rushed bit of writing. Way to project.

I know what poetic justice is and Kishi doesn't practise it neither does shonen. It's only socialist faps who try to turn everything into something deeper than it is. The truth is Madara got trolled because kishi couldn't beat him any other way. He turned him into a woman(easier go beat for kishi) who got fodderised by 2 fodders there's nothing poetic about it.
 

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I know what poetic justice is and Kishi doesn't practise it neither does shonen. It's only socialist faps who try to turn everything into something deeper than it is. The truth is Madara got trolled because kishi couldn't beat him any other way. He turned him into a woman(easier go beat for kishi) who got fodderised by 2 fodders there's nothing poetic about it.

Well somehow you still ended up a stupid and incorrect sentence. Almost every Dragon Ball Z villain falls prey to the trope.

Same with Sasuke, Kabuto and Obito. It's used often in Yugioh and One Piece. Underestimating Shonen my ass.
 

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Well somehow you still ended up a stupid and incorrect sentence. Almost every Dragon Ball Z villain falls prey to the trope.

Same with Sasuke, Kabuto and Obito. It's used often in Yugioh and One Piece. Underestimating Shonen my ass.

I see so it's incorrect because it disagrees with your fap. Like I said it was so a woman could get fodderised. I know you want to view the Japs as a group of Emo panzees such as yourself but they're not.
Who said the Japs would become a superior(referring to underestimating) culture by adhering to our values or our perceptions. If you want to judge the Japanese and their writing style it should be in light of their method not yours.
 
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