Madara's case and Itachi's case in Susanoo are different,

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Some posters here are claiming that Itachi and Madara's case are the same but they are not:

1.) Itachi:

Itachi have his Mangekyo Sharingan before getting hit by the Kirin and activated the Susanoo at the same time.

Itachi is not blind as he fought Orochimaru's Hydra technique and sealed him. Itachi is not a sensor.

Itachi is not blind as knew Sasuke's location and hit him in his forehead. Itachi is not a sensor.



2.) Madara:

After getting revived, Madara's EYE SOCKETS ARE EMPTY to begin with.
 
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And Itachi's susano'o was disappearing as his vision was getting worse.
 

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I'm glad you made this thread. I mean at the end of the day, he used Susanoo without eyes. Can't do anything about it. Can't change it. So get over it. But people acting like this was something that made sense are kidding themselves. It basically makes Madara's need for a Rinnegan seem pointless because you'd like to think he could use Rinnegan techiques without the eyes if he can do so for sharingan techniques.

Having blind eyes is not the same thing as not having eyes at all.

Basically Kishi just told us that Neji can see chakra points even if his eyes get taken because you don't need the eyes for techniques.
 

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I'm glad someone said this. Itachi's situation is definitely different, especially being the fact that he started to use it while he had his MS active to begin with in the first place. I'm pretty sure the eyes have always been the source of Susano'o. People acting like what Kishi did makes sense need to open their eyes. Or at least come up with a better explanation cause I'm not buying it
 

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Aside from the fact that Itachi STILL managed to use Susano'o while practically blind (it only degraded because of his disease, he started coughing up blood), there's also the fact that Madara awoken an EMS (hell he awoken the rinnegan actually). Zetsu (his will) was also using Obito's body at one point. Kakashi and Obito seemed to be linked (credit to Untamed). Kishi still can give a good explanation.


"I can feel it... Your Mangekyo... Are Choku-tomoe, a straight pattern."


^ That would be the greatest opportunity to do it. Kishi is most likely to expound on this. He could solve all this confusion right then and there.
 
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what's worse than seeing Madara pulling off a move like that will be reading the explanation but, i HIGHLY doubt that it will be explained.

to be honest am not even surprised, this is the trend in the war arc and the k11 actually shot rasengans so what did you expect ??

using visual jutsu without eyes is like getting high without pot .......................... and kishi actually does this expecting people to go like "well it makes perfect sense" as if this is normal/acceptable :yeah:.
 
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