Madara

[Prince Badman]

TBH if a psychiatrist were to analyze Madara he would definitely be identified as schizophrenic sociopath.....I mean some of the decisions he made never made sense nor did his actions as a human being....I mean the village he helped in creating, the one he named he kept on attacking it till the very end and wanted to obliterate the entire world...and in the end it still wasn't clear what in the world the guy wanted(Hashirama ofc is excluded from that list =D) If we really look into his actions the guys screwed up countless lives....and even the obliteration of his very own clan which he wanted to protect was a result of his actions....Obito, Kakashi, Rin....and the list can go on...what do you guys say.....can his actions be made to look sensible by any explanation except for PLOT...

 

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it was very clear what madara wanted.

Go re-read the manga

 

[DominiqueX]

Madara wanted that no one has to suffer the same like he did, ever again. He wanted to end the suffering by stopping humanity from causing it with anything they do. He wanted to create a dreamworld where everyone could have what he/she desires. Literally anything. Without harming anyone else.
Fun Fact: That's the only option our real world would have too, in order to achieve eternal peace.

Here he explains it very well:

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All the people he killed stood in his way. They died for "the greater good". He had the mindset that the outcome justifies the means.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Madara wanted that no one has to suffer the same like he did, ever again. He wanted to end the suffering by stopping humanity from causing it with anything they do. He wanted to create a dreamworld where everyone could have what he/she desires. Literally anything. Without harming anyone else.
Fun Fact: That's the only option our real world would have too, in order to achieve eternal peace.

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All the people he killed stood in his way. They died for "the greater good". He had the mindset that the outcome justifies the means.

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Madara pursuing MT bcus he saw that method as one way to gain peace for all human even though it bears high risk that he doesnt know.

 

[Seventh Sama]

^Are these guys really trying to imply madara wasn't a psychopath?

 

[Ansatsuken]

^Are these guys really trying to imply madara wasn't a psychopath?

We(the readers) knew about IT effect but not him the puppet of BZ and left out from the truth. Cant blame him.

OK we knew about some of Madara's back story post VOTE/Izanagi(example: saving Obito, giving Nagato rinnegan for reviving purpose, met up with Muu and Onoki but never killed them(for a psychopath this was good behavior/unexpected move), died at 100 years old(assume) just that).

Revived as Edo and need to make his move to Obito's places and asked him why this happen and not that?

Madara never killed people that not hindering his way to MT for peace. Unlike Obito killing many people that was not one of Madara's command.

And the puppet control device, it just a counter measure of safety device if Obito commit a suicide and make Obito work for him. But thats all.

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And Obito created his own path and not Madara and the main point is Madara told him all this truth about him, Rin and the seal after Obito done all the destruction like helping in killing Uchiha, Becoming JJ etc.

Unless Madara told Obito when he still in a cave and Obito going ape shit on Madara, Uchiha clan and others after that where we can justified Madara as a lunatic.

 

[Prince Badman]

^Are these guys really trying to imply madara wasn't a psychopath?

seems that way =D me i would quote sherlock "he was a high functioning sociopath"

 

[Seventh Sama]

We(the readers) knew about IT effect but not him the puppet of BZ and left out from the truth. Cant blame him.

OK we knew about some of Madara's back story post VOTE/Izanagi(example: saving Obito, giving Nagato rinnegan for reviving purpose, died at 100 years old(assume) just that).

Revived as Edo and need to make his move to Obito's places and asked him why this happen and not that?

Madara never killed people that not hindering his way to MT for peace. Unlike Obito killing many people that was not one of Madara's command.

The guy manipulated obito into embracing the curse of hatred, he didn't care that countless people died too. He also believed a old rock tablet could make people dream forever. He must've been high off of Marijuana too!
How can you not see that madara is crazy?

 

[TenseiganFTW]

^Are these guys really trying to imply madara wasn't a psychopath?

They're trolling or maybe they're fanboys?
"Greater good" he said LOL...
People stood his way becuase they fought for freedom.No one wants to be a slave...However i can't reply to 2 comments at the same time I'm in my phone.It takes too much time sorry.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Just wanted to point out that there is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath

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on another note if he was diagnosed. psychopath is more closely related whether he knew what he wanted or not, complete disregard for others abd he tried to force his vision on other people. You could also describe him as a god-complex narcisst abd a messiah-complex narcissist.

 

[Ansatsuken]

The guy manipulated obito into embracing the curse of hatred, he didn't care that countless people died too. He also believed a old rock tablet could make people dream forever. He must've been high off of Marijuana too!
How can you not see that madara is crazy?

He doesnt care bcus he already died. What was his command to Obito? reviving him through Nagato thats all. And not killing all Uchiha.

Do you think he agree with what Obito has done all this long when they met for the first time in war arc? He also began to realized Obito cant be trusted or not reliable at all.

Go back to the tablet topic. This was a magic/superstitious/supernatural series. They believe this thing can happen compared to us in real world. Plus he never knew the deeper effect of MT.

You can said he was high in Marijuana if he already know the bad effect and still went for it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I never agree with all thing Madara has done but he still too far to be called as psychopath. Yeah he done wrong.

 

[Seventh Sama]

He doesnt care bcus he already died. What was his command to Obito? reviving him through Nagato thats all. And not killing all Uchiha.

Do you think he agree with what Obito has done all this long when they met for the first time in war arc? He also began to realized Obito cant be trusted or not reliable at all.

Go back to the tablet topic. This was a magic/superstitious/supernatural series. They believe this thing can happen compared to us in real world. Plus he never knew the deeper effect of MT.

You can said he was high in Marijuana if he already know the bad effect and still went for it.

I was joking about that last part.
No nees to have a stick up ur butt.

 

[Bimbonium]

The guy manipulated obito into embracing the curse of hatred, he didn't care that countless people died too. He also believed a old rock tablet could make people dream forever. He must've been high off of Marijuana too!
How can you not see that madara is crazy?

@Bold, yup Hashirama could produce the finest breed Marijuana with his wood style

 

[Prince Badman]

@Bold, yup Hashirama could produce the finest breed Marijuana with his wood style

hahahahaha.....Madara left the village coz Hashi said "no more weed for you Madara...time to get sober =D"

 

[DominiqueX]

Madara had a god-complex, but he was not simply a psychopath.
And yes, I think the mindset "sacrificing one to save another" is a legit way of thinking. He killed for the greater good, just like Hashirama and Naruto did. Are they psychopaths too, Mr. Tenseigan?

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Madara had a god-complex, but he was not simply a psychopath.
And yes, I think the mindset "sacrificing one to save another" is a legit way of thinking. He killed for the greater good, just like Hashirama and Naruto did. Are they psychopaths too, Mr. Tenseigan?

You are lowminded.
Hashirama and Naruto killed paychos like Madara who threatened innocent people.
If a mafia in real life harms innocents he will die.
Do i really need to explain...Madara wanted chakra fruit LOL,he killed innocents.if you can't realize things then it's not my problem -_-

 

[DominiqueX]

Exactly.
But to Madara, everyone who wanted to continue the cycle of hatred, as well as the shinobi-system, was a psychopath. Try to understand the way of thinking before you judge someone.

Did you see the 33rd opening of the Naruto Shippuden anime? It shows Madara's perspective very well.

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[video=youtube;wq2ss19Vh3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2ss19Vh3I[/video]

All the ninjas who formed the shinobi-world with all its suffering and cruelty, are shown with black eyes, like demons.
Madara wanted to end this, no matter what. He wanted to create a world where millions of people can dream their perfect lives.. even if it costs the life of hundreds or thousands.
Besides that, he didn't know about the Everyone-becomes-a-Zetsu-asspull that Kishimoto brought up in the last breaths of his manga to justify Kaguya's existence. So you can't blame him for that.

I never said that Madara's actions were "good". I just tried to show you how his mindset worked.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

Exactly.
But to Madara, everyone who wanted to continue the cycle of hatred, as well as the shinobi-system, was a psychopath. Try to understand the way of thinking before you judge someone.

Did you see the 33rd opening of the Naruto Shippuden anime? It shows Madara's perspective very well.

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[video=youtube;wq2ss19Vh3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2ss19Vh3I[/video]

All the ninjas who formed the shinobi-world with all its suffering and cruelty, are shown with black eyes, like demons.
Madara wanted to end this, no matter what. He wanted to create a world where millions of people can dream their perfect lives.. even if it costs the life of hundreds or thousands.
Besides that, he didn't know about the Everyone-becomes-a-Zetsu-asspull that Kishimoto brought up in the last breaths of his manga to justify Kaguya's existence. So you can't blame him for that.

I never said that Madara's actions were "good". I just tried to show you how his mindset worked.

Madara can't be blamed?After all he had free will,Zetsu made suggestions and Madara accepted them.Madara's Ego was the fault.
GG

 

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