Madara would tie with Kabuto (no Edo)

[Invsblphntm]

Kabuto would **** EMS Madara up. Simply put it, Kabuto fought EMS Sasuke and Itachi, owned them pretty eZ mode, then Itachi pulled out his plot-no-jutsu, errr... I mean Izanami.

EMS Sasuke and Itachi > EMS Madara

A>B>C logic dun werk mayne

Considering Sasuke and Madara are both clones of each other, Madara just being stronger, YEAH IT DOES.

 

[Waltz]

Kabuto would **** EMS Madara up. Simply put it, Kabuto fought EMS Sasuke and Itachi, owned them pretty eZ mode, then Itachi pulled out his plot-no-jutsu, errr... I mean Izanami.

EMS Sasuke and Itachi > EMS Madara

A>B>C logic dun werk mayne

Considering Sasuke and Madara are both clones of each other, Madara just being stronger, YEAH IT DOES.

agreed.

 

[lol99]

@ the bold: again i'll remind you..itachi was an edo

yes he was an edo but he still felt the effects of the jutsu which is why he covered his ears and eyes

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most likely itachi is more used to using susanoo than sasuke and thats why he was able to put up a partial susanoo to protect him. As for madara he should be able to put up a partial susanoo even during the jutsu because he has used susanoo much more than both itachi and sasuke

 

[WillToWin]

Am referring to Alive madara.
His sage jutsu were powerful enough to disperse susano'o and fast enough to dodge amaterasu and he's immune to genjutsu.

Izanami/Izanagi would risk madara loosing an eye. and without a double mangeyko that means no susanoo.

Itachi and sasuke couldn't handle kabuto and only won because itachi was an edo.

Madara's meteor and Chibaku tenseu could be controlled with the sage jutsu that he used to control the sage jutsu he used to control the cave.

Kabuto can defeat madara one on one

Despite Kabuto being stronger with SM. What makes you think that he can defeat someone like Madara? Even if he is alive, Madara would solo Kabuto. The dude only did so good against Sasuke and Itachi because he was just being the target of capturing, not killing. If Madara kills him. He would win. The only technique that i like from Kabuto was the White Rage Technique and Inorganic Reincarnation.

 

[thenykidsk]

His eyes aren't close in SM, they have a layer over them.
Weather S/MS/EMS it dosn't matter..the jutsu requires an eye shutting down forever.

No he cant, He's not the sage of six paths.


Alive madara doesn't have mokuton ergo, cannot use wood clones.

i thought we were talking edo...

 

[Zeref]

I say madara will win

 

[Djokovic]

I say Sasuke EMS solos.

 

[Waltz]

Despite Kabuto being stronger with SM. What makes you think that he can defeat someone like Madara? Even if he is alive, Madara would solo Kabuto. The dude only did so good against Sasuke and Itachi because he was just being the target of capturing, not killing. If Madara kills him. He would win. The only technique that i like from Kabuto was the White Rage Technique and Inorganic Reincarnation.

No, itachi and sasuke couldn't kill him even if they wanted to.

Madara couldn't kill kabuto. in SM Kabuto has:

Unlimited nature chakra
Almost instantaneous regenerative abilities
Incredible speed
intelligence
very powerful jutsu

and just how do you think madara would beat him?

 

[ItachiSan03]

Despite Kabuto being stronger with SM. What makes you think that he can defeat someone like Madara? Even if he is alive, Madara would solo Kabuto. The dude only did so good against Sasuke and Itachi because he was just being the target of capturing, not killing. If Madara kills him. He would win. The only technique that i like from Kabuto was the White Rage Technique and Inorganic Reincarnation.

Madara can't even damage kabuto. Hydration technique makes him immune to physical attacks, he can seal his eyes to prevent genjutsu, and he can shed vs amaterasu and fire techs.

Then madara will have to deal with his genjutsu, his ninjutsu and his sound four + orochimaru attack. No way kadara can win.

 

[WillToWin]

No, itachi and sasuke couldn't kill him even if they wanted to.

Madara couldn't kill kabuto. in SM Kabuto has:

Unlimited nature chakra
Almost instantaneous regenerative abilities
Incredible speed
intelligence
very powerful jutsu

and just how do you think madara would beat him?

How will Kabuto take down Perfect Susanoo? Plus, Madara has rinnegan on top of that. Kabuto has powerful jutsu, but his jutsu can't compete with Madara. The cave was his advantage take him out of the place and let's see how he will fair against him. Kabuto stole powers from other ninjas on top of it. He didn't work hard or develop the powers he got, except Sage Mode. He is smart and powerful, but even EMS Sasuke can take him down. Madara has all the affinities the hydration technique can be taken out by lightning. His reflexes are impressive, but he won't be able to dodge forever. His healing properties are a serious problem, because he can heal with ease. But he will take damage later on. The shedding is also a huge problem just like Orochimaru he can avoid attacks. The sound 4 + Orochimaru is trouble, but i only found Tayuya threating. Madara is OP! He might give EMS Madara a challange, but the rest is history.

 

[Waltz]

How will Kabuto take down Perfect Susanoo? Plus, Madara has rinnegan on top of that. Kabuto has powerful jutsu, but his jutsu can't compete with Madara. The cave was his advantage take him out of the place and let's see how he will fair against him. Kabuto stole powers from other ninjas on top of it. He didn't work hard or develop the powers he got, except Sage Mode. He is smart and powerful, but even EMS Sasuke can take him down. Madara has all the affinities the hydration technique can be taken out by lightning. His reflexes are impressive, but he won't be able to dodge forever. His healing properties are a serious problem, because he can heal with ease. But he will take damage later on. The shedding is also a huge problem just like Orochimaru he can avoid attacks. The sound 4 + Orochimaru is trouble, but i only found Tayuya threating. Madara is OP! He might give EMS Madara a challange, but the rest is history.

Perfect susanoo:

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EMS Sasuke take down kabuto? lol i guess you closed your eyes when itachi saved his life.

He will beable to dodge forever because he has unlimited chakra.
Kabuto's reflex's are on par with madara's.

where was it said that he will take damage after using the Regeneration tech?

 

[WillToWin]

Perfect susanoo:

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EMS Sasuke take down kabuto? lol i guess you closed your eyes when itachi saved his life.

He will beable to dodge forever because he has unlimited chakra.
Kabuto's reflex's are on par with madara's.

where was it said that he will take damage after using the Regeneration tech?

Is this the only thing you got to counter your reasons why Kabuto is strong. Sasuke saved Itachi in this match, did you forget that part. Unlike Bee and Naruto, Sasuke saved Itachi. This won't prove anything and Madara won't stay a sitting duck, unlike Sasuke. This match was entirely Itachi's match. Sasuke was there as back up. He didn't do literally shit in that whole match, except trying to catch Kabuto without killing him.

 

[Waltz]

Is this the only thing you got to counter your reasons why Kabuto is strong. Sasuke saved Itachi in this match, did you forget that part. Unlike Bee and Naruto, Sasuke saved Itachi. This won't prove anything and Madara won't stay a sitting duck, unlike Sasuke. This match was entirely Itachi's match. Sasuke was there as back up. He didn't do literally shit in that whole match, except trying to catch Kabuto without killing him.

Unlike me you haven't laid any solid points yet.

@ 2nd bold: here your make assumptions that madara would win and give useless reasons to back them up.

 

[WillToWin]

Unlike me you haven't laid any solid points yet.

@ 2nd bold: here your make assumptions that madara would win and give useless reasons to back them up.

Well the image you showed me was useless. You think he will KO Madara with that technique? If Itachi can make a partial Susanoo during the phase of the technique. Madara can make one and better. Didn't Kabuto use that technique to get his chance to override Itachi's mind using Sasuke, but failed because Susanoo was active even with the jutsu taking effect. I knew that you were going to post that image. You saying that Kabuto is stronger than Madara. Is like equaling him to Hashirama. Are you going to say that Kabuto can crush Hashirama in another thread? Kabuto could solo the Kages separately or maybe 2 of them at the same time, but he can't beat Madara. Unless, he pulls an OP move out of his ass. Also, i don't know how Kabuto will survive with the techniques that Madara has displayed in this battle. Even if Kabuto can deflect most of his jutsu. He has PS and Rinnegan in his arsenal. He has a portion Hashirama's techniques which he can use at his disposal. He has Preta's path and he doesn't need a Preta path puppet to absorb. He can absorb techniques through the use of his eyes. His Susanoo can destroy a mountain with a single swing. Tell me how Kabuto will be able to compete with this kind of arsenal? The only thing that makes Kabuto a fierce individual is the Edo Tensei. Other than that he is nothing that big to brag about. He is very dangerous, but that's it. Madara's techniques are OP. In other words, Madara is in a whole other level.

 

[Bright Master]

not a big fan of kabuto but good point!

 

[Spitshyne]

+Rep

 

[Waltz]

Well the image you showed me was useless. You think he will KO Madara with that technique? If Itachi can make a partial Susanoo during the phase of the technique. Madara can make one and better. Didn't Kabuto use that technique to get his chance to override Itachi's mind using Sasuke, but failed because Susanoo was active even with the jutsu taking effect. I knew that you were going to post that image. You saying that Kabuto is stronger than Madara. Is like equaling him to Hashirama. Are you going to say that Kabuto can crush Hashirama in another thread? Kabuto could solo the Kages separately or maybe 2 of them at the same time, but he can't beat Madara. Unless, he pulls an OP move out of his ass. Also, i don't know how Kabuto will survive with the techniques that Madara has displayed in this battle. Even if Kabuto can deflect most of his jutsu. He has PS and Rinnegan in his arsenal. He has a portion Hashirama's techniques which he can use at his disposal. He has Preta's path and he doesn't need a Preta path puppet to absorb. He can absorb techniques through the use of his eyes. His Susanoo can destroy a mountain with a single swing. Tell me how Kabuto will be able to compete with this kind of arsenal? The only thing that makes Kabuto a fierce individual is the Edo Tensei. Other than that he is nothing that big to brag about. He is very dangerous, but that's it. Madara's techniques are OP. In other words, Madara is in a whole other level.

1) Susano'o was maintained by itachi only because he was an edo

2)I'm not saying kabuto's stronger...am saying that kabuto may as well beat him...that dosent mean he's stronger.

3) Alive madara doesn't have mokuton/hahirama's wood style

your an uchiha fanboy huh...

Susanoo, regardless of the size..will be be affected by this jutsu:

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your still basing your argument off of assumption and useless alone.

 

[Helikido]

As far as I know kabuto has no counter for perfect susanoo so fail..


And kabutos Anti susanoo jutsu will fail against susanoo..

Don't ask why Madara is gonna be high in the damn sky and kabuto will not even have the chance to cast anything.... your pointless OP. If you think a fodder can win Madara you need help.

 

[Waltz]

As far as I know kabuto has no counter for perfect susanoo so fail...

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[Helikido]

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Like I said Madara is gonna be high in the damn sky and kabuto will probably be too busy getting slashed in half by Madras susanoo.