Madara will defeat Hashirama

[narutoblitz]

We see that Hashirama barely defeated Madara at VoTE. With Madara having Rinnegan and Mokuton... it's just bad writing if Hashirama wins this thing.

 

[Hipster Madara]

I hope Madara wins.

 

[Bimbonium]

I think Madara should win with "trump card" and all

 

[Meee]

Not really, Preta Path and his Meteors are pretty much useless and Mokuton isn't going to help if hes going up against someone better at using it, based on whats hes shown i say he stood a better chance with the Kyuubi then he does now =D

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

if i were you, i wouldn't say something like that in this type/genre of manga/anime (in their final fight).

this is the final battle so the bad guys can bring all the fire power they got and they will still LOSE (madara/obito doesn't matter).
i think it was obvious the moment this war started (no logic, technicalities or restrictions in it). the good guys struggle a little, they make a comeback and beat the enemy (how strong is the enemy also doesn't matter).

i believe that madara will change his mind and join hashirama's side soon but, if that never happens and they have their final showdown, he will lose.

 

[Goddess Tsunade]

barely??? Hashirama beat Madara mid difficulty,
not to mention he's holding back 'coz he sees Madara as friend

now that Madara has been revived with modified body,
having rinnegan and mokuton will just make his power closer if not equal to Hashi's

 

[Transcendence]

Barely? It was Kurama and Madara. Madara still doesn't have a counter for Shinsenjuu at all. Preta is useless and Tengai Shinsei is a suicidal technique since it takes them both out and brings them back to their pre-fight states after regeneration. Either one is feasible for a win.

 

[TheSages456]

LMAO at the absolute stupidity of this thread.

PS is madaras full power as stated by madara himself. only PS and that alone is comparable to hashiramas scale. hashirama is fighting edo madara no differently than he fought ems madara.

nothing in the manga shows or implies madara>hashirama. you're a fanboy if you say that hashirama beating madara is bad writing because hashirama>madara has been stated multiple times and its supported by feats.

 

[narutoblitz]

Madara's words to Hashirama:

"I will keep you for a little longer"

He can beat Hashirama anytime he wants, and Preta path can cancel Mokuton. Madara is just enjoying the fight a bit longer before he becomes a Jinchuruki. He hasn't played his trump card yet, and in his own mind we saw him think "I want to beat Hashirama before becoming Jinchuruki"

Sorry guys, but Hashirama is going down. So are the other Edo Hokage's, once Orochimaru comes back...

Hashirama was better than EMS Madara, but the point is now that Madara has Rinnegan, Edo body and Mokuton. Hashirama is visibly struggling in their fight. Madara will probably only win because of a cheap shot from Obito, Sasuke, Orochimaru or someone else.

Best logical argument? Madara has unresolved plot (his trump card, how he survived the VoTE fight, becoming 10 tails Jinchuruki, dialogue with Sasuke, etc.) Madara wants Hashirama alive long enough to see him become the host, that's it. Past that he will wipe out Hashirama and have Orochimaru, his true accomplice, take out the Edo Kage.

Orochimaru was no match for Itachi or Madara, so he agreed to follow Madara for information on the Sharingan, some Hashirama DNA and for the shits and giggles of it all. How else did Oro get the 1st's DNA? Sorry guise, but fanboyism delusions gotta answer to reality at some point... Madara will win.

 

[david098]

barely? are u ****ing kidding me? he decided to get serious then one shot madara even when he had the kyuubi... what a joke he defeated him easily...... kids need to grow up jesus.

 

[Orochimagus]

So you're gonna base tiers on what a character SAYS, eh?

So Hashirama knows all about the sage's powers and clearly saw Madara with the Rinnegan. Does he look worried at all?

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[-ahhimane-]

We've heard throughout the series as well as from Madara that Hashirama bested Madara.
But now the plot will make Madara the winner against Hashirama only to get bested by the new generations.

 

[Ovan]

I don't think so.. Evil people don't ever get what they want.

 

[2nd hokage]

I think plot well have mandra win because hashi. Doesn't want to kill mandra any more this time than last time after he wins hashis last words will have mandra fade away to nothing as all unfinished business will be done

 

[Orochimagus]

Um...You're not the type to pay attention, 2nd Hokage. Hashirama stopped the "I don't want to kill you" crap. He changed and came to believe in doing whatever it takes to protect the village.

 

[uchihajaime]

Plot says Madara must win this. Major villains can only be defeated by main characters. Hashirama is not a main. He will be defeated to show just how powerful Madara is. This will make his final defeat by a main character (either Naruto or Sasuke after a power-up) all the more awesome since the stakes were raised.

 

[uchihajaime]

I don't think so.. Evil people don't ever get what they want.

This logic is atrocious. So, Madara must be defeated by Hashirama because villains always lose. Of course villains lose, where did you get the idea that Hashirama will be the one to defeat Madara because of that? The only thing you establish was Madara will be defeated. You have zero defense that it will be by Hashirama.