Madara was suppose to be the 3rd Coffin [Plot Hole?]

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1. Yes, Orochimaru actually got access to Madara's body from whom Kabuto obtained it, and resurrected him, Orochimaru was probably after SO6P's ultimate jutsus or Rinnegan and other related jutsus, here is about it.
2. Was it Madara, that Oro wanted to resurrect?? I don't think so, it was probably fourth as stated in the manga, as we can clearly see that Oro learned the secrets behind sealing techniques of Uzumaki clan after losing his jutsus..
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But that doesn't clear up the fact Orochimaru needed a successful ritual to summon Minato in the first place, how did the coffin appear? Otherwise it wasn't Minato at all.

And Orochimaru is aware Minato was sealed. Kabuto was just lying about Minato, he didn't have a choice, its a given.
 

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Sorry but this is a fail thread. Kabuto stated that the last person on the 3rd coffin was Minato himself not Madara.

Madara already had Mokuton before being edo tensie. He implanted Hashirama's DNA right after the battle and at that moment he gained access to Mokuton. Orochimaru nor Kabuto did not give him any Mokuton.

It would be impossible for Madara to be the person in 3rd coffin when he wasn't introduced as character in Hiruzen's death.
 

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I gave you rep for the effort, but Manga plot disputes this. Would have been nice in theory though, but the pedo snake confirmed he studied how to revive him after losing his arms. This would imply that he tried when attacking the village, but failed.
 

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your mom was supposed to be in there but she wouldn't fit.
 

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Sorry but this is a fail thread. Kabuto stated that the last person on the 3rd coffin was Minato himself not Madara.

Madara already had Mokuton before being edo tensie. He implanted Hashirama's DNA right after the battle and at that moment he gained access to Mokuton. Orochimaru nor Kabuto did not give him any Mokuton.

It would be impossible for Madara to be the person in 3rd coffin when he wasn't introduced as character in Hiruzen's death.

I'm taking it you never read the thread properly...
 

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yes its a big plot hole minato couldnt be the third coffin since when edo tensei is performed the revived person is awake on the sacrificed person as its complete. then they are placed in the coffins for summoning. so if the shinigami seal was suppose to stop orochimaru from reviving minato it wouldn't be during the coffin summoning it would have to be during the sacrifice. so if minato was the third summon thats a big plot hole.
 

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i don't know about kabuto saying anything about 3rd coffin being 4th....! can somebody show me a scan...? i wanna read it or give a reference link....!
 

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it was confirmed minato was going to be edo tensei in part 1 by orochimaru but he was sealed already, and orochimaru was not even old enough to help madara
 

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it was confirmed minato was going to be edo tensei in part 1 by orochimaru but he was sealed already, and orochimaru was not even old enough to help madara

minato couldnt be the edo in since he was sealed away the prep ritual would have failed. and for those who dont know the prep ritual is isnt the coffin. the coffin is just a way to summon the bodies to the battlefield.
 

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But that doesn't clear up the fact Orochimaru needed a successful ritual to summon Minato in the first place, how did the coffin appear? Otherwise it wasn't Minato at all.

And Orochimaru is aware Minato was sealed. Kabuto was just lying about Minato, he didn't have a choice, its a given.
1. Yup Orochimaru needed successful ritual, he tried to summon Minato but failed, the coffin appeared doesn't meant it wasn't of Minato's.
2. Even if Oro knew Minato was sealed, he didn't know that you can't summon a shinigami sealed guy, using edo tensei, and that is the point I wanted to trace using that scan, Oro didn't know about RDS unsealing.:yeah:
 

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But that doesn't clear up the fact Orochimaru needed a successful ritual to summon Minato in the first place, how did the coffin appear? Otherwise it wasn't Minato at all.

And Orochimaru is aware Minato was sealed. Kabuto was just lying about Minato, he didn't have a choice, its a given.
No he didnt. He didnt even know about the death reaper. All he knew before Hiruzen used Death reaper on his ass was that Minato died fighting and sealing away the fox.
 

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there was a clear explanation BY kabuto that clearly stated the fourth didnt revive because of the reaper death seal. The third coffin was not madara. Now i dont doubt kabuto and oro experimented on madaras body. But danzo and oro most likely got their hashi dna from tobi.
 
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