Madara vs toneri & momoshiki

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3 eye madara vs chakra mode toneri and fusion momoshiki.

PS cannot be absorbed.

full intel.

location: SA vs juubi battleground.

S2 : IT chakra restricted.
 

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Lol if PS can't be absorbed then this team gets killed with ease in both scenarios.

-Golden Wheel can be dodged or tanked with a defense harder than Naruto's body, but the same size as his body as well.
-Momoshiki's offensive jutsu are useless against PS. So are the rest of Toneri's jutsu.

Once PS comes out it only takes two swings. One for Toneri and one for Momoshiki. IT chakra not needed at all.
 

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Madara wins if PS can't be absorbed.

If PS can be absorbed then I'll go with Momoshiki and Toneri.
 

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Lol if PS can't be absorbed then this team gets killed with ease in both scenarios.

-Golden Wheel can be dodged or tanked with a defense harder than Naruto's body, but the same size as his body as well.
-Momoshiki's offensive jutsu are useless against PS. So are the rest of Toneri's jutsu.

Once PS comes out it only takes two swings. One for Toneri and one for Momoshiki. IT chakra not needed at all.
so if PS can get absorbed madara loses?
 

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-Momoshiki's offensive jutsu are useless against PS. So are the rest of Toneri's jutsu.
After absorbing mere elemental attacks, Momoshiki busted the head of Adult sasukes PS

If we grant him all the absorbed jutsu chakra and the pills, then he has enough output to bust PS
 

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After absorbing mere elemental attacks, Momoshiki busted the head of Adult sasukes PS

If we grant him all the absorbed jutsu chakra and the pills, then he has enough output to bust PS

JJ Madaras PS >>> adult sasukes PS.


madaras PS is powered by the bijuus, making it =< BPS >>> standard sasuke PS, so tanking a TBB on roids shouldnt be an issue, not to mention madara can match with juubidamas and meteors.

tbb can also be repelled by shinra tensei, giving the massive power and scale of JJ madaras CT, the rest of his six paths jutsus should be around the same scale and power aswell.
 

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Momoshiki can just have Toneri fire all his attacks at him and he just absorbs them.

Golden Wheel Rebirth Explosion on Steroids would completley wreck Madara's PS.
 

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so if PS can get absorbed madara loses?

Not necessarily, but it'd be harder since he'd have to finish Momoshiki off with something like Chibaku Tensei. Toneri isn't even a threat here. His offensive attacks can still be blocked with PS, but he'd have to use something else to actually kill him.

After absorbing mere elemental attacks, Momoshiki busted the head of Adult sasukes PS

If we grant him all the absorbed jutsu chakra and the pills, then he has enough output to bust PS

Yeah, if. Regardless, that was only the head. Smaller than the actual head on his full sized Susanoo and smaller than the entire Susanoo in general. Elemental attacks aren't doing a thing but Bijuu Dama would probably destroy it. But that's only if Madara doesn't power up his Susanoo with the IT victims chakra, cause then Momoshiki definitely can't touch it.

But even then, using Bijuu Dama is dumb idea since Madara would survive while Momoshiki blows himself and Toneri up. Or Madara
 

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What? Madara already has a chance in S1 even without the Restrictions.

S2. Stomp or Low Dif.
 

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-Golden Wheel can be dodged or tanked with a defense harder than Naruto's body, but the same size as his body as well.

Do not say it like Naruto just sat there and tanked the attack he focused all his power into a point (palm of his hand) to block it. Madara Perfect Susanoo would be cut in half or at least damaged.

Momoshiki's offensive jutsu are useless against PS. So are the rest of Toneri's jutsu.

How Momoshiki before his fusion burst Both Susanoo and Kurama's Head even took down full Kurama and this was just with the power of Boruto's elements and Gyuki's Bijuu dama make him fused let him absorb golden wheel any PS shown to date gets ruined.

Once PS comes out it only takes two swings. One for Toneri and one for Momoshiki. IT chakra not needed at all.

Toneri can dodge and Momo can destroy it.

Not necessarily, but it'd be harder since he'd have to finish Momoshiki off with something like Chibaku Tensei. Toneri isn't even a threat here. His offensive attacks can still be blocked with PS, but he'd have to use something else to actually kill him.

If Susanoo can be absorbed Momoshiki could solo this. Chibaku Tensei is useless Momoshiki had no problem trying to smash Naruto with rocks that we're larger than the shinju trunk, What stops his from using his lava release to destroy the orbs when they're pulling in the rocks? Also his turtle monster should be able to amplify it considering its lava/rock texture.

Yeah, if. Regardless, that was only the head. Smaller than the actual head on his full sized Susanoo and smaller than the entire Susanoo in general. Elemental attacks aren't doing a thing but Bijuu Dama would probably destroy it. But that's only if Madara doesn't power up his Susanoo with the IT victims chakra, cause then Momoshiki definitely can't touch it.

Since when does it being a head means anything against Obito Naruto only used the head of Kurama and fired a pretty large Bijuu dama showing that even without the full bm avatar his bijuu dama power was still the same. The Susanoo head was fused with the Kurama head making it more powerful. Anyways it does not matter because Naruto used full Kurama and still lost their bout this was Momoshiki un fused give him the golden wheel to spit out at Madara and his Perfect Susanoo gets wrecked.

Full Kurama from Adult Naruto should be stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo's as it would equal Sasuke's PS base Momoshiki absorbing gyuki's tbb destroyed that avatar fused momoshiki absorbing golden wheel which is tiers above anything in Bee's arsenal gives him the ability to destroy Madara's Perfect susanoo with ease. Obvious I.T chakra is not taken into account here and why should it this is a vs Battle only to the 3 opponents face each other.

But even then, using Bijuu Dama is dumb idea since Madara would survive while Momoshiki blows himself and Toneri up. Or Madara

Toneri can be out of range and Momoshiki could absorb it right back up not a problem for him.
 

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Do not say it like Naruto just sat there and tanked the attack he focused all his power into a point (palm of his hand) to block it. Madara Perfect Susanoo would be cut in half or at least damaged.



How Momoshiki before his fusion burst Both Susanoo and Kurama's Head even took down full Kurama and this was just with the power of Boruto's elements and Gyuki's Bijuu dama make him fused let him absorb golden wheel any PS shown to date gets ruined.



Toneri can dodge and Momo can destroy it.



If Susanoo can be absorbed Momoshiki could solo this. Chibaku Tensei is useless Momoshiki had no problem trying to smash Naruto with rocks that we're larger than the shinju trunk, What stops his from using his lava release to destroy the orbs when they're pulling in the rocks? Also his turtle monster should be able to amplify it considering its lava/rock texture.



Since when does it being a head means anything against Obito Naruto only used the head of Kurama and fired a pretty large Bijuu dama showing that even without the full bm avatar his bijuu dama power was still the same. The Susanoo head was fused with the Kurama head making it more powerful. Anyways it does not matter because Naruto used full Kurama and still lost their bout this was Momoshiki un fused give him the golden wheel to spit out at Madara and his Perfect Susanoo gets wrecked.

Full Kurama from Adult Naruto should be stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo's as it would equal Sasuke's PS base Momoshiki absorbing gyuki's tbb destroyed that avatar fused momoshiki absorbing golden wheel which is tiers above anything in Bee's arsenal gives him the ability to destroy Madara's Perfect susanoo with ease. Obvious I.T chakra is not taken into account here and why should it this is a vs Battle only to the 3 opponents face each other.



Toneri can be out of range and Momoshiki could absorb it right back up not a problem for him.

It's needless to say that no explaination is needed for this retarded ass post.
 

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Do not say it like Naruto just sat there and tanked the attack he focused all his power into a point (palm of his hand) to block it. Madara Perfect Susanoo would be cut in half or at least damaged.



How Momoshiki before his fusion burst Both Susanoo and Kurama's Head even took down full Kurama and this was just with the power of Boruto's elements and Gyuki's Bijuu dama make him fused let him absorb golden wheel any PS shown to date gets ruined.



Toneri can dodge and Momo can destroy it.



If Susanoo can be absorbed Momoshiki could solo this. Chibaku Tensei is useless Momoshiki had no problem trying to smash Naruto with rocks that we're larger than the shinju trunk, What stops his from using his lava release to destroy the orbs when they're pulling in the rocks? Also his turtle monster should be able to amplify it considering its lava/rock texture.



Since when does it being a head means anything against Obito Naruto only used the head of Kurama and fired a pretty large Bijuu dama showing that even without the full bm avatar his bijuu dama power was still the same. The Susanoo head was fused with the Kurama head making it more powerful. Anyways it does not matter because Naruto used full Kurama and still lost their bout this was Momoshiki un fused give him the golden wheel to spit out at Madara and his Perfect Susanoo gets wrecked.

Full Kurama from Adult Naruto should be stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo's as it would equal Sasuke's PS base Momoshiki absorbing gyuki's tbb destroyed that avatar fused momoshiki absorbing golden wheel which is tiers above anything in Bee's arsenal gives him the ability to destroy Madara's Perfect susanoo with ease. Obvious I.T chakra is not taken into account here and why should it this is a vs Battle only to the 3 opponents face each other.



Toneri can be out of range and Momoshiki could absorb it right back up not a problem for him.

lmao.
 

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This dude.....ill tear that up in an hour or so. Too much wrong with it for me to let it slide.
 

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Do not say it like Naruto just sat there and tanked the attack he focused all his power into a point (palm of his hand) to block it. Madara Perfect Susanoo would be cut in half or at least damaged.



How Momoshiki before his fusion burst Both Susanoo and Kurama's Head even took down full Kurama and this was just with the power of Boruto's elements and Gyuki's Bijuu dama make him fused let him absorb golden wheel any PS shown to date gets ruined.



Toneri can dodge and Momo can destroy it.



If Susanoo can be absorbed Momoshiki could solo this. Chibaku Tensei is useless Momoshiki had no problem trying to smash Naruto with rocks that we're larger than the shinju trunk, What stops his from using his lava release to destroy the orbs when they're pulling in the rocks? Also his turtle monster should be able to amplify it considering its lava/rock texture.



Since when does it being a head means anything against Obito Naruto only used the head of Kurama and fired a pretty large Bijuu dama showing that even without the full bm avatar his bijuu dama power was still the same. The Susanoo head was fused with the Kurama head making it more powerful. Anyways it does not matter because Naruto used full Kurama and still lost their bout this was Momoshiki un fused give him the golden wheel to spit out at Madara and his Perfect Susanoo gets wrecked.

Full Kurama from Adult Naruto should be stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo's as it would equal Sasuke's PS base Momoshiki absorbing gyuki's tbb destroyed that avatar fused momoshiki absorbing golden wheel which is tiers above anything in Bee's arsenal gives him the ability to destroy Madara's Perfect susanoo with ease. Obvious I.T chakra is not taken into account here and why should it this is a vs Battle only to the 3 opponents face each other.



Toneri can be out of range and Momoshiki could absorb it right back up not a problem for him.

lol what?
 

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Why are you all saying that Madara stomps them with low or no diff? I remember Toneri was said to be as strong as Madara and Momoshiki more dangerous than Kaguya, so why can't they stand any chance against Madara? just asking
 

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Why are you all saying that Madara stomps them with low or no diff? I remember Toneri was said to be as strong as Madara and Momoshiki more dangerous than Kaguya, so why can't they stand any chance against Madara? just asking

-Momoshiki being a greater threat=/=Kaguya. Momoshiki's plan was to recreate the fruit in order to gain the same power Kaguya did so we can forget about him being stronger.
-Toneri was never said to be as strong as Madara. Ever. If I'm wrong provide the source.

Do not say it like Naruto just sat there and tanked the attack he focused all his power into a point (palm of his hand) to block it. Madara Perfect Susanoo would be cut in half or at least damaged.

Lol no. Toneri used it twice. The first time he got hit head on yet rose out of the crater relatively unharmed. Thus a shield the same size as him but equal or greater in durability tanks it.


How Momoshiki before his fusion burst Both Susanoo and Kurama's Head even took down full Kurama and this was just with the power of Boruto's elements and Gyuki's Bijuu dama make him fused let him absorb golden wheel any PS shown to date gets ruined
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Lol already explained this.


Toneri can dodge and Momo can destroy it.

Please get me the feats before making empty claims like this. Obito couldn't dodge Naruto and Sasuke's attacks yet somehow the slower Toneri dodges Madara's attacks? Momoshiki can only hope of doing anything serious to Susanoo with his Bijuu Dama. Anything else is tanked, and that even gets tanked in S1 when Madara can use the IT chakra.

If Susanoo can be absorbed Momoshiki could solo this. Chibaku Tensei is useless Momoshiki had no problem trying to smash Naruto with rocks that we're larger than the shinju trunk, What stops his from using his lava release to destroy the orbs when they're pulling in the rocks? Also his turtle monster should be able to amplify it considering its lava/rock texture.

What in the....? Dude. Watch that again, please. And use logic.

1. Momoshiki never smashed Naruto with rocks larger than the Shinju's trunk.
2. Even if he did, doesn't mean he can destroy CT.
3. Shinju in the movie is smaller than it was during the war. Shinju is around the same size as the barrier, which dwarfs PS while the movie Shinju was the same size as PS.

So Chibaku Tensei rain kills Momoshiki. Not sure how he's going to use Lava Release to destroy the orbs when:

-The orbs gather rock fast enough that Naruto and Sasuke can't do anything to them.
-His range isn't that great.

The last sentence is baseless and doesn't make sense.

Since when does it being a head means anything against Obito Naruto only used the head of Kurama and fired a pretty large Bijuu dama showing that even without the full bm avatar his bijuu dama power was still the same. The Susanoo head was fused with the Kurama head making it more powerful. Anyways it does not matter because Naruto used full Kurama and still lost their bout this was Momoshiki un fused give him the golden wheel to spit out at Madara and his Perfect Susanoo gets wrecked.

Lol what in the world? Dude are you kidding me?

-Anything related to offense is irrelevant.
-Now let's apply common sense. What is more durable? A Susanoo head at full size or a Susanoo head not at full size? A Susanoo head not at full size or the entire body. The rest has been addressed.

Full Kurama from Adult Naruto should be stronger than Madara's Perfect Susanoo's as it would equal Sasuke's PS base Momoshiki absorbing gyuki's tbb destroyed that avatar fused momoshiki absorbing golden wheel which is tiers above anything in Bee's arsenal gives him the ability to destroy Madara's Perfect susanoo with ease. Obvious I.T chakra is not taken into account here and why should it this is a vs Battle only to the 3 opponents face each other.

Too bad Sasuke's PS isn't stronger than Madara's. Madara's is stronger, at best Sasuke's is equal. The rest has been addressed. Momoshiki can try to absorb Golden Wheel, but in that time he gets split in half by PS or Madara simply dodges it when used. The bold is your opinion, irrelevant in the face of OP's conditions and pure manga fact. Rinne Sharingan gives Madara the capability to manipulate this chakra so I have no reason to take this ability away from him. Do you see people restrict Kaguya from using IT chakra because "it's too OP"? :lol

Not going to take Toneri being out of range from a Super Sized Bijuu Dama when the battle takes place at close to mid range seriously.
 

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Why are you all saying that Madara stomps them with low or no diff? I remember Toneri was said to be as strong as Madara and Momoshiki more dangerous than Kaguya, so why can't they stand any chance against Madara? just asking

Because they watched the movies.

I watched the The Last but haven't watched the Boruto movie. I heard that Momoshiki didn't turn out to be the threat that Kaguya was building an army for but I haven't watched it so I can't confirm it.
 
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